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Originally posted by razor9
Originally posted by FiniteSD

#14???? I think your calculator thingy might be broken.......Hopefully you can find a certified repairman and get it fixed before your mid-season rankings. Thanks for the effort though, these are always fun to look at.

Jeff

That's what I said when my team was #14 in the other poll.

This is purely scientific, so take it for what it is worth. But I also said that you guys will probably bounce up from that because the chemistry value is a little screwy.

I think chemistry is waaay overrated. We went 15-1 our first season with chemistry in the 10's.

Originally posted by FiniteSD
Originally posted by razor9

Originally posted by FiniteSD


#14???? I think your calculator thingy might be broken.......Hopefully you can find a certified repairman and get it fixed before your mid-season rankings. Thanks for the effort though, these are always fun to look at.

Jeff

That's what I said when my team was #14 in the other poll.

This is purely scientific, so take it for what it is worth. But I also said that you guys will probably bounce up from that because the chemistry value is a little screwy.

I think chemistry is waaay overrated. We went 15-1 our first season with chemistry in the 10's.

+1 and the way this offseason is going everyone will be at 100.

I wouldn't say it is overrated. Everyone thought Arroz was in the bottom 5 teams last season at the start of the season, after a rough start as our chem got better we started winning and we ended up 10-6. Our first win was against the champs, the Maulers.

So chem has a lot to do with everything. I think it and confidence are both underrated.

Originally posted by Zadith
I wouldn't say it is overrated. Everyone thought Arroz was in the bottom 5 teams last season at the start of the season, after a rough start as our chem got better we started winning and we ended up 10-6. Our first win was against the champs, the Maulers.

So chem has a lot to do with everything. I think it and confidence are both underrated.

I think player builds have a much bigger impact than chemistry. I've seen teams with low chemistry beat teams with high chemistry all the time. If it's a real close matchup it could be a deciding factor.

I'd put my money on a team with better players and shitty chemistry rather than a team with shitty players and good chemistry.

Originally posted by FiniteSD
Originally posted by Zadith

I wouldn't say it is overrated. Everyone thought Arroz was in the bottom 5 teams last season at the start of the season, after a rough start as our chem got better we started winning and we ended up 10-6. Our first win was against the champs, the Maulers.

So chem has a lot to do with everything. I think it and confidence are both underrated.

I think player builds have a much bigger impact than chemistry. I've seen teams with low chemistry beat teams with high chemistry all the time. If it's a real close matchup it could be a deciding factor.

I'd put my money on a team with better players and shitty chemistry rather than a team with shitty players and good chemistry.

That was the situation, we lost to teams that didn't have better players,

-Senor

We lost to teams that when we faced them later in scrims we dominated. Chemistry was a huge factor and watching our game film and how our team worked you could see it affect our players. Our passing game and our pass defense both got better and better as the chemistry got better. It makes a very big impact no matter what the builds are unless one team is full of level 40 players with 30 speed/agility and 25 tackling...

It is definitely not the only deciding factor but it is a big factor. In the past it didn't make that much of a difference because the leagues used to be 4-6 teams that were competing and the rest were basically cupcake teams. This league last season had 13 teams that could have taken the gold had 1-2 games gone their way. Hopefully it will be that tight again this season.

Way to go Razor ! Way to stand up and let people throw stones at you !! And you didn't even use darts. LOL Only thing is, your crazy if you think the Dragons are the #5 team in the league. I'll be lucky to be 7th again. Other than that, way to go Razor !!

Chemistry plays a big role in offenses picking up the blitz and defenses freeing up players to get the QB / HB. But if the players abilities are to low the play isn't going to go there way.. High chemistry might help free up a LB to blitz but if his speed is 45 he's not going to get to the QB.

If we had better chemistry last season I am 99% sure we would be in AA right now.

Originally posted by FiniteSD
Originally posted by razor9

Originally posted by FiniteSD


#14???? I think your calculator thingy might be broken.......Hopefully you can find a certified repairman and get it fixed before your mid-season rankings. Thanks for the effort though, these are always fun to look at.

Jeff

That's what I said when my team was #14 in the other poll.

This is purely scientific, so take it for what it is worth. But I also said that you guys will probably bounce up from that because the chemistry value is a little screwy.

I think chemistry is waaay overrated. We went 15-1 our first season with chemistry in the 10's.

Chemistry has a well documented effect. I have the ratio wrong in my formula because I was using an older version. Wait let me get the link.

Okay, couldn't find exactly, but here's where it is documented as having an effect:

http://www.glbwiki.com/index.php?title=Chemistry

Now I'll share a trade secret. I once ran into a training link that explained that the effect of chemistry at 10 was a certain percentage discount from every player's overall ability. I did the backwards math with that (I think it was a 9% loss at 10 points) and came up with a formula that takes the chemistry level and converts it using this integer.

Ex: A team is 74 for their offensive chemistry.

Here is the excel formula
=(100-((100-C38)*0.09))*0.01
=.9766 or 97.66%

The players are only performing at this level because of the chemistry hit. Now I'm not sure, but I think that you further multiply that number down against the overall chemistry. It's kind of a double hit, but it makes sense as to why teams with such bad chemistry get pounded more often than not.

In season 6, I GM'd a team that had horrible chemistry. We were losing games that we were clearly the better team and losing bad. The following season, the chemistry gap was gone, we went 13-3. Then last season we went 15-1 and made the title game with pretty much the same team. Not a slow build either.

The FMMP last season had chemistry issues as well, couple with our shitty AI. Then when we lost those game, poor morale took it's toll as well and we really had a hard time digging out. Once our chemistry leveled out and we got the AI straight, we rebounded and went 5-3 in the last 8 games.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=6&team_id=483
See the trophy that teams page? TFO/Maggots started season 6 with a chem of 10 and took the trophy.
Slowed them down the first 4 games and then there was no stopping them.

Id trade 50 chem today for 3 nice upgrades but good luck with your theories.

Chemistry is something that keeps you from crying yourself to sleep after you get your ass kicked.

Originally posted by robsalvador

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=6&team_id=483
See the trophy that teams page? TFO/Maggots started season 6 with a chem of 10 and took the trophy.
Slowed them down the first 4 games and then there was no stopping them.

Id trade 50 chem today for 3 nice upgrades but good luck with your theories.

Chemistry is something that keeps you from crying yourself to sleep after you get your ass kicked.

If you get enough solid builds and have just the right game planning, you can overcome it. The chemistry is only responsible for so much of it and it's not going to keep a tough team totally down. But it could cause you to lose a lot games that you probably should not have, if you are not vastly superior to begin with.

Oh Razor, thanks for standing up and letting everyone throw rocks at you. Now there not throwing any sh*t at me anymore. Now all you need to do is talk some other owner into standing up and giving there predictions to take the heat off you. I'd throw the chemistry part of your formula away. Nobody seems to like it.

Originally posted by oldbaldone
Oh Razor, thanks for standing up and letting everyone throw rocks at you. Now there not throwing any sh*t at me anymore. Now all you need to do is talk some other owner into standing up and giving there predictions to take the heat off you. I'd throw the chemistry part of your formula away. Nobody seems to like it.

Get Bender or Oscarr back here.

Hey I like rankings with numbers that seem very random and don't make any sense Good job razor