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Originally posted by wyrebel
Cool, what your telling me is something completely awful has to happen to be promoted. Im ok with that.

I hear rumors that another 3 Pro league teams are selling at the end of the season, so I wouldn't get your hopes up that your staying 100%

Originally posted by Welsh76
Originally posted by yoshi_yoshi

Going pro w/o the trophy would be weak... hopefully no more teams sell. Although I think WWW is far enough down the promotion sort order chain.

We're going Pro regardless of the outcome to tomorrows game, if we lose we'd be the #2 ranked loser that would get promoted because of the 2 CPU teams in Alpha. I'm aware of 2 or 3 more teams that will be going CPU so I'd be very suprised to see WWW here next season even if you lose tomorrow.

from this thread: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2013680

In fact another went just in the last hour or so, that's NOT in a regular regulation spot, so depending on which side of the pyramid it drops down, the #5 could be going, if one more team goes CPU, than the #5 WILL be going.

This promotion system is idiotic.

Originally posted by jdbolick
This promotion system is idiotic.

You know, if you hate the game so much why are you playing?

Originally posted by FredL
Originally posted by jdbolick

This promotion system is idiotic.

You know, if you hate the game so much why are you playing?

yes, inquiring minds want to know.

Originally posted by wyrebel
Cool, what your telling me is something completely awful has to happen to be promoted. Im ok with that.

This, not to revisit any sore subjects but I think I speak for my whole team when I state that we'd rather earn our way up there.

Originally posted by rickeyhelsel
Originally posted by wyrebel

Cool, what your telling me is something completely awful has to happen to be promoted. Im ok with that.

This, not to revisit any sore subjects but I think I speak for my whole team when I state that we'd rather earn our way up there.

Anytime a team is promoted, its because they earned it, for our AA you have to be in the Top 6 or so out of 60 remaining teams, meaning you've earned to right to be in that Top 6. Just because someone goes without a shiny little throphy on the team page doesn't mean they didn't earn it.

Originally posted by ultrajer
Originally posted by rickeyhelsel

Originally posted by wyrebel


Cool, what your telling me is something completely awful has to happen to be promoted. Im ok with that.

This, not to revisit any sore subjects but I think I speak for my whole team when I state that we'd rather earn our way up there.

Anytime a team is promoted, its because they earned it, for our AA you have to be in the Top 6 or so out of 60 remaining teams, meaning you've earned to right to be in that Top 6. Just because someone goes without a shiny little throphy on the team page doesn't mean they didn't earn it.

This. If your the top of your division, your equal to the next league above you in terms of talent wise. You may not be tops in that league, but you can hang. Unless your being promoted from a capped league, which we are not.

Originally posted by FredL
You know, if you hate the game so much why are you playing?
I'm curious as to why it always seems to be Alpha owners who ask dumb questions, and whether it not it has anything to do with why they can never win anything. Saying "the promotion system is idiotic" obviously doesn't mean that I hate the game, so I don't know if you were trying to be amusing or what. I'm simply stating a fact, because the promotion system actually is idiotic now. CPU teams are a nuisance to those who care deeply about fake statistics, but otherwise aren't much of a hindrance. The old promotion system wouldn't force all those CPU teams to the bottom, but what it did do is to only advance teams that had proven to be among the best at their former level. Pushing up more and more teams from lower levels to higher levels, however, creates more stratification within conferences. For the sake of argument, let's say that Team X is 10% better than Team Y. Under the old system, Team X would advance if they won their conference, but now both teams might go. Even as great as Loch Ness was through A and AA, they were just average in AAA, so let's assume that for Team X as well. They're probably not going to be a title contender right away, but they're respectable. Meanwhile Team Y gets promoted as well in the new system and because they're demonstrably worse than Team X, they're even less likely to succeed. So you're pushing a team above what they're prepared for, and in exchange for what? More realistic stats? The agents on Team Y presumably pay for flex points, but it's unlikely they'll continue to do so while trapped in a level where they're far from being competitive.


Originally posted by rickeyhelsel
This, not to revisit any sore subjects but I think I speak for my whole team when I state that we'd rather earn our way up there.
Exactly. Being promoted because someone else sold a team is obviously not earning your way up. It's being a victim of circumstance. If that team hadn't been sold, you wouldn't be advancing. The point of this game is not just to play in a Pro League, otherwise people like ultrajer would have just signed up to buy one of the abandoned Pro League teams. The point is to win at each level and advance to greater competition. Advancing simply because someone else gave up is completely out of your control, and moreover, it robs you of a feeling of accomplishment.

The problem with the old system was nobody wanted the gutted Pro and AAA league teams because no one would sign with the team because it either was 0-16 or was going to be 0-16, then it would get regulated one tier down, and again not enough players to be worth a shit would sign, again going 0-16 or if you were lucky enough to have another gutted team in the conference, 1-15. Now the owner has had the team 2 seasons, 1000 flex worth for what? Ass kicking after ass kicking? They paid their money too, so don't use that as your crutch. It would take 4 seasons to move down to BBB, at which time those teams would be higher in level and then you start getting the excuse, 'your team is too low in the chain'

I know first hand how much work it took to try and field a gutted team in AAA: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=15 a team I've been a GM on since season 3 before the 'drop to the bottom' thing started. We tried for nearly 2 seasons, trading for players, paying max cash for one season deals, we'd get some 'pity' signings but not a lot. We finally gave up and sold everyone off (who wasn't a lot, mostly inactives team would trade us once the agent signed on for the day never to be seen again) and started with level 1's in a AAA league and have slowly but surely got our asses handed to us week in and week out working our why down to BBB where we might have a chance.

The current system is a shit pot better than the old system.

I'm curious as to why someone who is obviously a freaking whiner needs to talk all the time about a system that "screwed" him over. No matter what your reason for bringing the topic up in the first place, you come off like a 5 year old kid who is upset about someone else who took his toy. Guess what? Nobody feels sorry for you because we all have had our own problems with the game. Sure, I might say recruiting sucks but I don't sit around and bitch and moan about it all the time in the forums and generally come across as a complete jerk like you. My question was asked because you seem so negative about the game. If I was as upset as you about this all the time I can't see continuing to play. But don't worry, one of these days you will get relegated and then you can go beat those A guys up and get your shiny trophy and everything will be all better. Right?

I did the claculations for AA#1 to show who gets promoted, so I thought I'd share with you all. I'm 99% sure these are accurate.

So as of NOW

these teams should promote:
**West Yorkshire AA1
**Helsinki AA1
**Wichita Wild AA2
**Dublin Devils AA2

*Marcy AA2 15-1
*Paris AA1 13-3
*Dayton AA2 10-6
*Judah AA1 9-7
Rome AA1 15-1
Newcastle AA1 14-2 1009pts


These teams are below the cut-off, in this order, but if anymore AAA#1 or Pro teams fold they may still get the call up

Amsterdam AA2 14-2 888pts
Hungary AA2 13-3 1142pts
Stockholm AA1 13-3 1046pts
Rotterdam AA1 12-4
Permian AA2 11-5
Canterbury AA2 10-6

**=automatic promotion for championship game
*=played in conference final game

These #'s include 4 AAA#1 teams going CPU, and 2 Pro teams going CPU (calculations show AAA#1 replace both the first 2 Pro teams so far, the next 2 Pro teams to drop come from AAA#2 though).

Were is WEAA#2 Championship teams at?


Cause those aren't the right ones...........Its Dublin and Wichita.

FUK screwed up the champ names, otherwise it should all be good I added them in at last second cause we didnt need them over in AA1

FIXED