Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
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Originally posted by Domer
Originally posted by JackLambert
What was the blown call in this game?
I'm not a fan of the Steelers and I was rooting for the Cardinals but I didn't see any big big mistakes by the refs. I know that this year there was a lot of awful games but I think that this one was alright.
The Cards loss basically because their coach made a high school coach mistake at the end of the first half and that's pretty much it. They also suck on defense the last drive and couldn't do anything on offense for the first half.
I don't think we can blame the ref on this one. Maybe I'm wrong on this one but like I said, I did not see any big mistakes by the officiating crew.
Block in the Back on the INT return.
Roughing the Passer which was clearly not.
Not officially reviewing the last play (Warner Fumble) - Although I think it would have had to be upheld anyways, they circumvented their own rules by not reviewing it.
Poor Chop Block call in the First half.
Not kicking out Harrison when he should have been.
Not assessing Big Ben with intentional grounding (2 plays I recall, a 3rd they replayed and he was outside the tackle box, although I've seen it called before.)
Those are the poor calls I can recall.
Domer
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And don't forget when they hammered Warner after he clearly didn't have the ball and NO roughing the passer was called like 6 - 8 plays later.
Refs should call it both ways.
Having said that though... the players on both sides played great and it was a good game to watch.
and dont forget Warner being held on that INT return too... ON any run or punt return..kick return..whatever..that would have gotten a holding call
Originally posted by Domer
Originally posted by JackLambert
What was the blown call in this game?
I'm not a fan of the Steelers and I was rooting for the Cardinals but I didn't see any big big mistakes by the refs. I know that this year there was a lot of awful games but I think that this one was alright.
The Cards loss basically because their coach made a high school coach mistake at the end of the first half and that's pretty much it. They also suck on defense the last drive and couldn't do anything on offense for the first half.
I don't think we can blame the ref on this one. Maybe I'm wrong on this one but like I said, I did not see any big mistakes by the officiating crew.
Block in the Back on the INT return.
Roughing the Passer which was clearly not.
Not officially reviewing the last play (Warner Fumble) - Although I think it would have had to be upheld anyways, they circumvented their own rules by not reviewing it.
Poor Chop Block call in the First half.
Not kicking out Harrison when he should have been.
Not assessing Big Ben with intentional grounding (2 plays I recall, a 3rd they replayed and he was outside the tackle box, although I've seen it called before.)
Those are the poor calls I can recall.
Domer
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And don't forget when they hammered Warner after he clearly didn't have the ball and NO roughing the passer was called like 6 - 8 plays later.
Refs should call it both ways.
Having said that though... the players on both sides played great and it was a good game to watch.
and dont forget Warner being held on that INT return too... ON any run or punt return..kick return..whatever..that would have gotten a holding call
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Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
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Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
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Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
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Originally posted by Duo
Originally posted by LithoMan
Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
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Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
He was covered pretty well in the 1st half..you can't just force it to a guy all day long
Originally posted by LithoMan
Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
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Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
He was covered pretty well in the 1st half..you can't just force it to a guy all day long
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Polamalu was on him the entire first half...So they hit Edgerin James short and Boldin... And ate Pit's defense up...James was getting about 10 yards a pop... So in the second half, Pit had to adjust and that left Larry to roam..Pretty good gameplan if you ask me
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Originally posted by DrunkenCowboy
Originally posted by Duo
Originally posted by LithoMan
Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
THIS
Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
He was covered pretty well in the 1st half..you can't just force it to a guy all day long
Steelers did it for Holmes pretty well
Originally posted by Duo
Originally posted by LithoMan
Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
THIS
Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
He was covered pretty well in the 1st half..you can't just force it to a guy all day long
Steelers did it for Holmes pretty well
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Originally posted by Duo
Originally posted by DrunkenCowboy
Originally posted by Duo
Originally posted by LithoMan
Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
THIS
Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
He was covered pretty well in the 1st half..you can't just force it to a guy all day long
Steelers did it for Holmes pretty well
They took what the defense gave them.
DRC was playing off-coverage(quarters) very often and he nor Hood were given help for the majority of the game..so Holmes was just carving them up.
You can force it to a guy..but you really have to get him involved by moving him around the field, putting him in motion, multiple route combinatinos, etc.
It was just a matter of the Cards countering whatever the Steelers did at the time..they left Boldin in 1v1 and he's not a bad WR either
Originally posted by DrunkenCowboy
Originally posted by Duo
Originally posted by LithoMan
Blah blah blah, when you got Larry, you use Larry. They didnt the first half, thats why they lost. Boldin is not Larry. Larry is Larry. Dipshit tried to control the game, and lost. Simple as that. Throw Larry the damn ball, aint nobody in Pittspuke gonna stop him.
THIS
Why the hell would they wait until the second half to use him?! When he came out in the 2nd, he caught 2 TD passes.
He was covered pretty well in the 1st half..you can't just force it to a guy all day long
Steelers did it for Holmes pretty well
They took what the defense gave them.
DRC was playing off-coverage(quarters) very often and he nor Hood were given help for the majority of the game..so Holmes was just carving them up.
You can force it to a guy..but you really have to get him involved by moving him around the field, putting him in motion, multiple route combinatinos, etc.
It was just a matter of the Cards countering whatever the Steelers did at the time..they left Boldin in 1v1 and he's not a bad WR either
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Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
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Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
No matter what was the plan, you should not call a passing play in this situation. You have 1 min left to the half, after this you're getting to ball back, you have like 5 yards to go for a TD and you're trailing by 3 points. You don't throw the ball, no matter what. Even if you don't make the TD, you have a sure 3 points and the game is tie. You don't throw the ball.
Even if you have Peyton Manning in this situation, you don't throw the ball. Throwing the ball is really risky in this situation because there's not a lot of ground to cover and a lot of yellow jersey for a small territory.
What you should do, is run the ball. If you get the TD, congratulation, if not, you kick the field goal and tie the game.Even if you lose yardage, it's not really important, on the next play you get 3 points so everything is alright. The worst thing that could happen on a running play is that your RB fumble that ball but in this situation, you have more chance to throw an interception.
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
No matter what was the plan, you should not call a passing play in this situation. You have 1 min left to the half, after this you're getting to ball back, you have like 5 yards to go for a TD and you're trailing by 3 points. You don't throw the ball, no matter what. Even if you don't make the TD, you have a sure 3 points and the game is tie. You don't throw the ball.
Even if you have Peyton Manning in this situation, you don't throw the ball. Throwing the ball is really risky in this situation because there's not a lot of ground to cover and a lot of yellow jersey for a small territory.
What you should do, is run the ball. If you get the TD, congratulation, if not, you kick the field goal and tie the game.Even if you lose yardage, it's not really important, on the next play you get 3 points so everything is alright. The worst thing that could happen on a running play is that your RB fumble that ball but in this situation, you have more chance to throw an interception.
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Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
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Originally posted by Jason Cash
Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
they showed Blitz from everyone and made Warner think they were going to bring the house, and the best call against a blitz is a quick slant, LeBeau knows that - hell, everyone knows that. And Lebeau knew that Woodley had been coming free and hammering Warner the whole drive.. Show the blitz, make Warner think hes gonna get planted in the grass again and Harrison jumps back right into the path of the slant. They did the same thing on the other side too, either way it would have been picked off. It was the perfect D call.
Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
they showed Blitz from everyone and made Warner think they were going to bring the house, and the best call against a blitz is a quick slant, LeBeau knows that - hell, everyone knows that. And Lebeau knew that Woodley had been coming free and hammering Warner the whole drive.. Show the blitz, make Warner think hes gonna get planted in the grass again and Harrison jumps back right into the path of the slant. They did the same thing on the other side too, either way it would have been picked off. It was the perfect D call.
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Originally posted by Jason Cash
Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
they showed Blitz from everyone and made Warner think they were going to bring the house, and the best call against a blitz is a quick slant, LeBeau knows that - hell, everyone knows that. And Lebeau knew that Woodley had been coming free and hammering Warner the whole drive.. Show the blitz, make Warner think hes gonna get planted in the grass again and Harrison jumps back right into the path of the slant. They did the same thing on the other side too, either way it would have been picked off. It was the perfect D call.
The beauty of the 3-4..
Originally posted by Jason Cash
Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
they showed Blitz from everyone and made Warner think they were going to bring the house, and the best call against a blitz is a quick slant, LeBeau knows that - hell, everyone knows that. And Lebeau knew that Woodley had been coming free and hammering Warner the whole drive.. Show the blitz, make Warner think hes gonna get planted in the grass again and Harrison jumps back right into the path of the slant. They did the same thing on the other side too, either way it would have been picked off. It was the perfect D call.
The beauty of the 3-4..
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Originally posted by Sooner5900
Originally posted by Jason Cash
Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
they showed Blitz from everyone and made Warner think they were going to bring the house, and the best call against a blitz is a quick slant, LeBeau knows that - hell, everyone knows that. And Lebeau knew that Woodley had been coming free and hammering Warner the whole drive.. Show the blitz, make Warner think hes gonna get planted in the grass again and Harrison jumps back right into the path of the slant. They did the same thing on the other side too, either way it would have been picked off. It was the perfect D call.
Agreed.... Perfect call at the perfect time... and how classic was it watching Harrison lying there gassed... Big fella can run... but he sure doesnt look like he like to
Originally posted by Jason Cash
Originally posted by reggiefrom40
Good points Domer and DallasDavidow. I knew the chop block call on James was terrible as well as one of the non-intentional grounding calls on Roethlesberger, but I didn't see the rest of those.
Good eye.
Also, I don't know that the Warner INT at the end of the first half was really designed to go to that receiver. Thus, I don't think it was a high school coaching call. Wasn't that one of those plays where Warner stumbled over the center and kind of threw it up to avoid the sack or am I remembering it wrong?
it WAS designed to go to that receiver..They were expecting Harrison to blitz, thus he wouldnt be in that spot...But he didnt..and a not called holding call for Warner and a block in the back later, Harrison gets a SuperBowl record
they showed Blitz from everyone and made Warner think they were going to bring the house, and the best call against a blitz is a quick slant, LeBeau knows that - hell, everyone knows that. And Lebeau knew that Woodley had been coming free and hammering Warner the whole drive.. Show the blitz, make Warner think hes gonna get planted in the grass again and Harrison jumps back right into the path of the slant. They did the same thing on the other side too, either way it would have been picked off. It was the perfect D call.
Agreed.... Perfect call at the perfect time... and how classic was it watching Harrison lying there gassed... Big fella can run... but he sure doesnt look like he like to
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