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Originally posted by knudlen
And 3 minutes of math will show you the return on club seats exceeds the return on corners and endzones, even in the first year
Incorrect. If I spend $100,000 adding seats, then (without any home playoff games) the 100 level corners will return around $80,000, the 100 level end zones will return around $75,000, and the 100 level club seats will return around $70,000. Note that I'm certainly not saying that you should never expand club and suite seats, just that the $10,000 expansion seats are a better investment at first.
just because it only takes 3 minutes of math doesn't mean it only takes 3 minutes of thinking about it. it's not really to my benefit to show you how you're wrong when i've already told you why, but really youre still just arguing with me for the sake of arguing with me. first you said you didnt see the point in expanding them, now you say you dont see the point doing it before sidelines, but sidelines should have been expanded seasons ago. the point is still expanding is ALWAYS worth it, and you thinking otherwise just hurts your team and is just another case of you forcing data to agree with your pre-conceived ideas.
Originally posted by knudlen
And 3 minutes of math will show you the return on club seats exceeds the return on corners and endzones, even in the first year
Incorrect. If I spend $100,000 adding seats, then (without any home playoff games) the 100 level corners will return around $80,000, the 100 level end zones will return around $75,000, and the 100 level club seats will return around $70,000. Note that I'm certainly not saying that you should never expand club and suite seats, just that the $10,000 expansion seats are a better investment at first.
just because it only takes 3 minutes of math doesn't mean it only takes 3 minutes of thinking about it. it's not really to my benefit to show you how you're wrong when i've already told you why, but really youre still just arguing with me for the sake of arguing with me. first you said you didnt see the point in expanding them, now you say you dont see the point doing it before sidelines, but sidelines should have been expanded seasons ago. the point is still expanding is ALWAYS worth it, and you thinking otherwise just hurts your team and is just another case of you forcing data to agree with your pre-conceived ideas.
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So you claim that "3 minutes of math will show you the return on club seats exceeds the return on corners and endzones," but when I actually do the math and show that you're wrong, you pull out the old "I could prove you wrong but I don't feel like it" excuse. Awesome.
I'm going to give you a piece of advice that will help you with a lot more than just GLB. Everyone makes mistakes, so when confronted with one, your response should be to own it and move forward. Denying a mistake when it's obvious you're wrong just makes you look incredibly foolish and immature.
I'm going to give you a piece of advice that will help you with a lot more than just GLB. Everyone makes mistakes, so when confronted with one, your response should be to own it and move forward. Denying a mistake when it's obvious you're wrong just makes you look incredibly foolish and immature.
ROI for 200 level Luxury Suites is 83% with no playoff home games and jumps to 110% if you have 4 home games. My 200 level Clubs came in at closer to 60% though with no playoff games. The Luxury Suites are the highest ROI of all of the expansion seating. ROI on a 100 Corner is closer to 33% and is the worst ROI of all of the expansion seating. All of these numbers fluctuate of course based on what your ticket prices are...these were based on preseason estimates of what we were planning on selling them at the season they were purchased.
I have excel spreadsheets for the last couple seasons that calculates them based on my planned concessions and my planned ticket prices.
We will have completely built the stadium in 3 seasons and can do it with a total of 2 home playoff games and 3 away games in three seasons...we also missed the playoffs entirely our second season. If that isn't proof enough I don't know what is.
Knud-I can't prove this but I actually believe the lower priced seats increase the concessions more...My concessions jumped on a per person basis HUGE this season when I added the 200 level corners and Endzones...the cheapest ticket priced seats we have so far. This is just a hunch of mine though and like I said I cannot prove it...just a hunch.
JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2. Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas. You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it...and you can't just go all out and do the best and take it for what it is...a game. We both got our teams in the same season and I have seen a LOT of bitching from you about this and that and people cheating and such and it gets old.
Here is another piece of advice...read your own last paragraph...it pertains to you too!
I have excel spreadsheets for the last couple seasons that calculates them based on my planned concessions and my planned ticket prices.
We will have completely built the stadium in 3 seasons and can do it with a total of 2 home playoff games and 3 away games in three seasons...we also missed the playoffs entirely our second season. If that isn't proof enough I don't know what is.
Knud-I can't prove this but I actually believe the lower priced seats increase the concessions more...My concessions jumped on a per person basis HUGE this season when I added the 200 level corners and Endzones...the cheapest ticket priced seats we have so far. This is just a hunch of mine though and like I said I cannot prove it...just a hunch.
JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2. Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas. You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it...and you can't just go all out and do the best and take it for what it is...a game. We both got our teams in the same season and I have seen a LOT of bitching from you about this and that and people cheating and such and it gets old.
Here is another piece of advice...read your own last paragraph...it pertains to you too!
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Originally posted by stumanroo
ROI for 200 level Luxury Suites is 83% with no playoff home games and jumps to 110% if you have 4 home games. My 200 level Clubs came in at closer to 60% though with no playoff games. The Luxury Suites are the highest ROI of all of the expansion seating. ROI on a 100 Corner is closer to 33% and is the worst ROI of all of the expansion seating. All of these numbers fluctuate of course based on what your ticket prices are...these were based on preseason estimates of what we were planning on selling them at the season they were purchased.
I have excel spreadsheets for the last couple seasons that calculates them based on my planned concessions and my planned ticket prices.
We will have completely built the stadium in 3 seasons and can do it with a total of 2 home playoff games and 3 away games in three seasons...we also missed the playoffs entirely our second season. If that isn't proof enough I don't know what is.
Knud-I can't prove this but I actually believe the lower priced seats increase the concessions more...My concessions jumped on a per person basis HUGE this season when I added the 200 level corners and Endzones...the cheapest ticket priced seats we have so far. This is just a hunch of mine though and like I said I cannot prove it...just a hunch.
JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2. Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas. You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it...and you can't just go all out and do the best and take it for what it is...a game. We both got our teams in the same season and I have seen a LOT of bitching from you about this and that and people cheating and such and it gets old.
Here is another piece of advice...read your own last paragraph...it pertains to you too!
What did the the Five fingers say to the face????
ROI for 200 level Luxury Suites is 83% with no playoff home games and jumps to 110% if you have 4 home games. My 200 level Clubs came in at closer to 60% though with no playoff games. The Luxury Suites are the highest ROI of all of the expansion seating. ROI on a 100 Corner is closer to 33% and is the worst ROI of all of the expansion seating. All of these numbers fluctuate of course based on what your ticket prices are...these were based on preseason estimates of what we were planning on selling them at the season they were purchased.
I have excel spreadsheets for the last couple seasons that calculates them based on my planned concessions and my planned ticket prices.
We will have completely built the stadium in 3 seasons and can do it with a total of 2 home playoff games and 3 away games in three seasons...we also missed the playoffs entirely our second season. If that isn't proof enough I don't know what is.
Knud-I can't prove this but I actually believe the lower priced seats increase the concessions more...My concessions jumped on a per person basis HUGE this season when I added the 200 level corners and Endzones...the cheapest ticket priced seats we have so far. This is just a hunch of mine though and like I said I cannot prove it...just a hunch.
JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2. Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas. You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it...and you can't just go all out and do the best and take it for what it is...a game. We both got our teams in the same season and I have seen a LOT of bitching from you about this and that and people cheating and such and it gets old.
Here is another piece of advice...read your own last paragraph...it pertains to you too!
What did the the Five fingers say to the face????
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Originally posted by stumanroo
JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2. Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas. You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it...and you can't just go all out and do the best and take it for what it is...a game. We both got our teams in the same season and I have seen a LOT of bitching from you about this and that and people cheating and such and it gets old.
Here is another piece of advice...read your own last paragraph...it pertains to you too!
JD - I would love to hear a response to the bolded quote1
If the sim is so bad and broken then why are the good teams winning and the avg teams are doing avg and the bad teams losing?
JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2. Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas. You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it...and you can't just go all out and do the best and take it for what it is...a game. We both got our teams in the same season and I have seen a LOT of bitching from you about this and that and people cheating and such and it gets old.
Here is another piece of advice...read your own last paragraph...it pertains to you too!
JD - I would love to hear a response to the bolded quote1
If the sim is so bad and broken then why are the good teams winning and the avg teams are doing avg and the bad teams losing?
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Originally posted by stumanroo
ROI on a 100 Corner is closer to 33% and is the worst ROI of all of the expansion seating. All of these numbers fluctuate of course based on what your ticket prices are
You're presumably going by the numbers listed in the Stadium FAQs threads. Those numbers are not correct, at least not for anyone who changes ticket and concessions pricing. Instead of using estimates, I already gave you the actual ROI for each 100 level seat type. Based on my own team's tickets and concessions pricing, we would get a ROI of 80% for corners, 75% for endzones, and 70% for club. By all means, do the math yourself if you don't want to take my word for it, but don't rely on estimates you got out of some thread and then pretend like those are authoritative. The concessions are where club and suite seats get hurt, because as you note, the cheaper seats are just as good if not better for generating concessions and you can obviously build 2.5 for every other one.
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JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2.
One of the reasons I felt compelled to study stadium construction is precisely that we started slowly. There were a number of rl acquaintances who wanted to be on the team but were locked into long-term contracts with someone else. Those cash trades left us with a lot less construction than a normal team, which meant we had to play catch-up.
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Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas.
I don't know what crawled up inside you and prompted this little outburst, but I suggest that you learn what you're talking about before you start running your mouth. No, I tend not to get along with adolescent jerks like Dmac and knudlen who try to publicly humiliate other owners in a pretty transparent attempt to make themselves feel better. If you'll remember, that's where Dmac and I got off on the wrong foot in CBBB4, after I took exception to him mocking another owner in the forums for bad builds when that guy hadn't done anything to deserve ridicule. And now knudlen is getting similar treatment because that fourteen year old is trying to pretend like he's a GLB god to whom all should bow down in obeisance (look it up if you don't know what that means). Kids generally get along with kids and adults generally get along with adults. Personally I have no tolerance for the former.
So while you give me advice on how to fit in with the teenage braggarts who inundate this forum with their "omg," "lol," and "mang" gibberish, maybe I can return the favor by letting you know how I've gotten along with the actual adults who play this game. To start with, I'm all for good-natured smack talk, but I never talk shit about another team or their players. Then, because this is a game and I act like an adult instead of some idiot child who has to tell everyone on Xbox Live how they "just got pwned!," I've tried to offer answers and advice to anyone in my leagues who had questions about the game. Last season I helped several teams that were in our conference simply because I put more value on them having fun and being competitive than how much we could beat them by. And for the record, maybe my Western Europe leagues have just been fortunate enough to have a higher average age, but there we've always been secure enough that we could discuss our thoughts about GLB, including complaints about changes to the sim. What you term "whining" is something at least those adults have seen as topics of conversation. By all means, please forgive me for thinking that this league was capable of the same maturity.
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You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it.
No, I don't. I've never once said "we'd be dominating if not for the sim changes!" or anything like that. In fact, I've been abundantly clear about how the problems with the Season 7 sim have affected most of GLB, not just my team. I have never once attempted to use the Season 7 changes as excuses, I've simply pointed out obvious flaws and noted how they have lessened my enjoyment of the game. Obviously you react poorly to any frank discussion of its shortcomings, and perhaps you prefer mindless endorsements about how "GLB owns!," but I find that fairly silly.
But really the point is this: the people who act like adults on GLB have always gotten along fine with me. Before this childish temper tantrum you just threw, we always had before, at least as far as I knew. Like I said, I have no idea what made you have a hissy fit tonight, but I'm perfectly willing to look past it. What I won't do, however, is to look the other way when someone is being a dick. I stepped in on Dmac and tansien because they were being assholes to other owners who hadn't done anything wrong. And I stood up to knudlen because he was being a condescending prick as well. If you want to pretend that this is my fault because I put those jackasses in their place, I don't really have any control over that. But ask anyone who doesn't act like a child how they've gotten along with me. Ask the guys who brought players to my team because they appreciated the way I've conducted myself. Ask the owners and GMs who have PMed me for help. Ask the people who have been on teams with me about the way I've treated them. Then ask anyone else if they've ever seen me act like an idiot whenever my team has success. I am the absolute last person you need to be lecturing, and if you ever feel the urge coming on again, I suggest that you find a way to get over it.
ROI on a 100 Corner is closer to 33% and is the worst ROI of all of the expansion seating. All of these numbers fluctuate of course based on what your ticket prices are
You're presumably going by the numbers listed in the Stadium FAQs threads. Those numbers are not correct, at least not for anyone who changes ticket and concessions pricing. Instead of using estimates, I already gave you the actual ROI for each 100 level seat type. Based on my own team's tickets and concessions pricing, we would get a ROI of 80% for corners, 75% for endzones, and 70% for club. By all means, do the math yourself if you don't want to take my word for it, but don't rely on estimates you got out of some thread and then pretend like those are authoritative. The concessions are where club and suite seats get hurt, because as you note, the cheaper seats are just as good if not better for generating concessions and you can obviously build 2.5 for every other one.
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JD-Your team has actually had more playoff games than my team so far in 2 seasons and your stadium is where ours was to start season 2.
One of the reasons I felt compelled to study stadium construction is precisely that we started slowly. There were a number of rl acquaintances who wanted to be on the team but were locked into long-term contracts with someone else. Those cash trades left us with a lot less construction than a normal team, which meant we had to play catch-up.
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Also I am going to give you a piece of advice...bitching about all of the little things that are screwed up with the game and blaming everything that goes wrong on the game is not going to earn you any brownie points with the other agents in your league...calling people immature and foolish also will not help you in those areas.
I don't know what crawled up inside you and prompted this little outburst, but I suggest that you learn what you're talking about before you start running your mouth. No, I tend not to get along with adolescent jerks like Dmac and knudlen who try to publicly humiliate other owners in a pretty transparent attempt to make themselves feel better. If you'll remember, that's where Dmac and I got off on the wrong foot in CBBB4, after I took exception to him mocking another owner in the forums for bad builds when that guy hadn't done anything to deserve ridicule. And now knudlen is getting similar treatment because that fourteen year old is trying to pretend like he's a GLB god to whom all should bow down in obeisance (look it up if you don't know what that means). Kids generally get along with kids and adults generally get along with adults. Personally I have no tolerance for the former.
So while you give me advice on how to fit in with the teenage braggarts who inundate this forum with their "omg," "lol," and "mang" gibberish, maybe I can return the favor by letting you know how I've gotten along with the actual adults who play this game. To start with, I'm all for good-natured smack talk, but I never talk shit about another team or their players. Then, because this is a game and I act like an adult instead of some idiot child who has to tell everyone on Xbox Live how they "just got pwned!," I've tried to offer answers and advice to anyone in my leagues who had questions about the game. Last season I helped several teams that were in our conference simply because I put more value on them having fun and being competitive than how much we could beat them by. And for the record, maybe my Western Europe leagues have just been fortunate enough to have a higher average age, but there we've always been secure enough that we could discuss our thoughts about GLB, including complaints about changes to the sim. What you term "whining" is something at least those adults have seen as topics of conversation. By all means, please forgive me for thinking that this league was capable of the same maturity.
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You act like your team has to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams and you get screwed by it.
No, I don't. I've never once said "we'd be dominating if not for the sim changes!" or anything like that. In fact, I've been abundantly clear about how the problems with the Season 7 sim have affected most of GLB, not just my team. I have never once attempted to use the Season 7 changes as excuses, I've simply pointed out obvious flaws and noted how they have lessened my enjoyment of the game. Obviously you react poorly to any frank discussion of its shortcomings, and perhaps you prefer mindless endorsements about how "GLB owns!," but I find that fairly silly.
But really the point is this: the people who act like adults on GLB have always gotten along fine with me. Before this childish temper tantrum you just threw, we always had before, at least as far as I knew. Like I said, I have no idea what made you have a hissy fit tonight, but I'm perfectly willing to look past it. What I won't do, however, is to look the other way when someone is being a dick. I stepped in on Dmac and tansien because they were being assholes to other owners who hadn't done anything wrong. And I stood up to knudlen because he was being a condescending prick as well. If you want to pretend that this is my fault because I put those jackasses in their place, I don't really have any control over that. But ask anyone who doesn't act like a child how they've gotten along with me. Ask the guys who brought players to my team because they appreciated the way I've conducted myself. Ask the owners and GMs who have PMed me for help. Ask the people who have been on teams with me about the way I've treated them. Then ask anyone else if they've ever seen me act like an idiot whenever my team has success. I am the absolute last person you need to be lecturing, and if you ever feel the urge coming on again, I suggest that you find a way to get over it.
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Originally posted by Ts-Rock
JD - I would love to hear a response to the bolded quote1 If the sim is so bad and broken then why are the good teams winning and the avg teams are doing avg and the bad teams losing?
As I have explained several times, Season 7 is 100% about builds. My team doesn't have the best builds in the world, in part because most of my teammates are people I want to be there because I know them from one place or another. Some followed my advice on builds and some didn't, but in previous seasons I was generally able to cover up for those weaknesses with game-planning. In Season 7, that's been a hell of a lot harder. There's nothing in anyone's gameplan that will let them deal with the bugs in CB coverage, nor power backs who can break five tackles on one run. This season if you have the builds, you're winning, but gameplans no longer matter much at all.
JD - I would love to hear a response to the bolded quote1 If the sim is so bad and broken then why are the good teams winning and the avg teams are doing avg and the bad teams losing?
As I have explained several times, Season 7 is 100% about builds. My team doesn't have the best builds in the world, in part because most of my teammates are people I want to be there because I know them from one place or another. Some followed my advice on builds and some didn't, but in previous seasons I was generally able to cover up for those weaknesses with game-planning. In Season 7, that's been a hell of a lot harder. There's nothing in anyone's gameplan that will let them deal with the bugs in CB coverage, nor power backs who can break five tackles on one run. This season if you have the builds, you're winning, but gameplans no longer matter much at all.
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Originally posted by jdbolick
So you claim that "3 minutes of math will show you the return on club seats exceeds the return on corners and endzones," but when I actually do the math and show that you're wrong, you pull out the old "I could prove you wrong but I don't feel like it" excuse. Awesome.
I'm going to give you a piece of advice that will help you with a lot more than just GLB. Everyone makes mistakes, so when confronted with one, your response should be to own it and move forward. Denying a mistake when it's obvious you're wrong just makes you look incredibly foolish and immature.
First of all you didn't do the math, because even at it's most basic, i-think-i'm-smarter-than-everyone-else-so-i-dont-bother-to-really-think-things-through, you don't get the %s you posted. So if you did the math, you did a piss poor job. Secondly, if you actually, i dont know, put thought into it instead of think about ways to post about powerbacks for the umpteenth time, the math doesn't come out to anything close to that. So you're either lazy and a little wrong, or dumb and a lot wrong. You can choose. Either way it doesn't behoove me to correct you anymore than everyone else in this thread already has, so feel free to continue along in your willful ignorance.
Willful ignorance, that phrase really really describes you to a T. You come to the wrong conclusion, and THEN examine all the facts and force them into supporting you.
So you claim that "3 minutes of math will show you the return on club seats exceeds the return on corners and endzones," but when I actually do the math and show that you're wrong, you pull out the old "I could prove you wrong but I don't feel like it" excuse. Awesome.
I'm going to give you a piece of advice that will help you with a lot more than just GLB. Everyone makes mistakes, so when confronted with one, your response should be to own it and move forward. Denying a mistake when it's obvious you're wrong just makes you look incredibly foolish and immature.
First of all you didn't do the math, because even at it's most basic, i-think-i'm-smarter-than-everyone-else-so-i-dont-bother-to-really-think-things-through, you don't get the %s you posted. So if you did the math, you did a piss poor job. Secondly, if you actually, i dont know, put thought into it instead of think about ways to post about powerbacks for the umpteenth time, the math doesn't come out to anything close to that. So you're either lazy and a little wrong, or dumb and a lot wrong. You can choose. Either way it doesn't behoove me to correct you anymore than everyone else in this thread already has, so feel free to continue along in your willful ignorance.
Willful ignorance, that phrase really really describes you to a T. You come to the wrong conclusion, and THEN examine all the facts and force them into supporting you.
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Ts-Rock
JD - I would love to hear a response to the bolded quote1 If the sim is so bad and broken then why are the good teams winning and the avg teams are doing avg and the bad teams losing?
As I have explained several times, Season 7 is 100% about builds. My team doesn't have the best builds in the world, in part because most of my teammates are people I want to be there because I know them from one place or another. Some followed my advice on builds and some didn't, but in previous seasons I was generally able to cover up for those weaknesses with game-planning. In Season 7, that's been a hell of a lot harder. There's nothing in anyone's gameplan that will let them deal with the bugs in CB coverage, nor power backs who can break five tackles on one run. This season if you have the builds, you're winning, but gameplans no longer matter much at all.
Funny, with no HB with any strength to speak of, and presumably CBs as buggy as everyone elses, Kingston has had no problems this season. So, let me see if i can understand you.
A) season 7 broke CBs and power backs
B) good builds can trump even all that broken stuff, the stuff thats waaaaay better than it should be.
So, if good builds are good enough to beat even the MOST broken, the MOST abusable, the stuff that absolutely cannot be gameplanned for..... How has 'good builds' not been more important than gameplanning BEFORE season 6? If gameplanning cant stop powerbacks (which is something i dont agree with) or broken CBs (again something i dont agree with) but good builds can, how is good builds not more important than gameplanning? If it can beat the SUPER UNCONTROLABLE GAME RUINING stuff that came with season 7, it has to be able to beat the normal run of the mill stuff from season 6.
Originally posted by Ts-Rock
JD - I would love to hear a response to the bolded quote1 If the sim is so bad and broken then why are the good teams winning and the avg teams are doing avg and the bad teams losing?
As I have explained several times, Season 7 is 100% about builds. My team doesn't have the best builds in the world, in part because most of my teammates are people I want to be there because I know them from one place or another. Some followed my advice on builds and some didn't, but in previous seasons I was generally able to cover up for those weaknesses with game-planning. In Season 7, that's been a hell of a lot harder. There's nothing in anyone's gameplan that will let them deal with the bugs in CB coverage, nor power backs who can break five tackles on one run. This season if you have the builds, you're winning, but gameplans no longer matter much at all.
Funny, with no HB with any strength to speak of, and presumably CBs as buggy as everyone elses, Kingston has had no problems this season. So, let me see if i can understand you.
A) season 7 broke CBs and power backs
B) good builds can trump even all that broken stuff, the stuff thats waaaaay better than it should be.
So, if good builds are good enough to beat even the MOST broken, the MOST abusable, the stuff that absolutely cannot be gameplanned for..... How has 'good builds' not been more important than gameplanning BEFORE season 6? If gameplanning cant stop powerbacks (which is something i dont agree with) or broken CBs (again something i dont agree with) but good builds can, how is good builds not more important than gameplanning? If it can beat the SUPER UNCONTROLABLE GAME RUINING stuff that came with season 7, it has to be able to beat the normal run of the mill stuff from season 6.
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What success have you had though jd? Just by looking at your profile you have had count them... Zero trophies...
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