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MY VOTES:
QB: RolandB Plymill - Reykjavik
RB: Moove Beech - Schuylkill
RB: Rufus Hammer - Toledo
FB: Kicking Azzers - Toledo
WR: K. Haas - Zurich
WR: Greg Flitzer - Subotica
WR: Blew By You - Reykjavik
TE: Colby Browning - Dusseldorf
OT: Ted Byles - Luxemborg
OT: Uncle Flappy - Dusseldorf
C: Longer Snapper - London
OG: Fat Bastard Ate You - Schuylkil
OG: Huard Guard - Dusseldorf

DE: Poindexter Manly - Zurich
DE: Terry Frisk - Reykjavik
DT: Turk N Tank - Dusseldorf
DT: Bruuuuu uuuuuce - Luxemborg
OLB: The Fake Billy Tubbs - Toledo
MLB: Devon Taylor - Bellingham
OLB: Brock Smashface - Schuylkill
CB: Baxter Serapin - Dusseldorf
CB: Ryan Croma - Subotica
CB: Francisco Navarro - Schuylkill
FS: Sandy O - BiPolar
SS: Strong 'Em All - Bellingham

K: Kickie McKickKick - Toledo
P: Sayed (P) Iftekhar - Gascony
KR: Rory Cadorette - Belligham
PR: Bo Jackson - Reykjavik

Owner: Luxembourg Lions

QB: Rolandb Plymill - Vikings
RB: Mobb Deep - Lions
RB: Moove Beech - Sharks
FB: Kicking Azzers - Fever
WR: K. Haas - Zeps.
WR: Gregg Flitzer - Dukes
WR: Greebo the Cat - Dukes
TE: Colby Browning - Knights
OT: Uncle Flappy - Knights
OT: Ted Byles - Lions
C: Leroy Jethro - Bipolar
OG: William Shieldington - Knights
OG: Fat Bastard Ate You - Sharks

DE: Bruuu uuuuce - Lions
DE: Terry Frisk - Vikings
DT: Turk n Tank - Knights
DT: Flash Rowe - Bipolar
OLB: Brock Smashface - Sharks
MLB: Devon Taylor - Goldfish
OLB: Rando Lando - Cashville
CB: Baxter Serafin - Knights
CB: Ryan Croma - Dukes
CB: Hank "Natty" Light - Zeps
FS: Johnny Lincoln - Lions
SS: Strong'em all - Goldfish

K: Mr? - Sharks
P: Mason Crosby - Fever
KR: Yo highnas - Subotica
PR: Foux du Fafa - Knights

Thanks.

Owner - Zurich Zeppelins

QB: RolandB Plymill - Vikings
RB: Rufus Hammer - Fever
RB: Moove Beech - Sharks
FB: Kicking Azzers - Fever
WR: K. Hass - Double Z's
WR: Blew by You - Vikings
WR: High Rollo - Vikings
TE: Colby Browning - Knights
OT: Uncle Flappy - Knights
OT: Pancake Zilla - Knights
C: Leroy Jethro - Leprechauns
OG: William Shieldington - Knights
OG: Fat Bastard Ate You - Sharks

DE: Poindexter Manly - Double Z's
DE: Terry Frisk - Vikings
DT: Henry La Serre - Double Z's
DT: Turk n Tank - Knights
OLB: Crusher Butkus - Fever
MLB: Devon Taylor - Goldfish
OLB: Brock Smashface - Sharks
CB: Hank "Natty" Light - Double Z's
CB: Ryan Croma - Dukes
CB: Baxter Serafin - Knights
FS: Sandy .- Leprechauns
SS: Strong'em All - Goldfish

K: Its...Good - Aces
P: Mason "Big Boot" Crosby - Fever
KR: Wide Recieves - Double Z's
PR:Foux du Fafa - Knights

GM - Zurich Zeppelins

QB: RolandB Plymill - Reykjavik
RB: Rufus Hammer - Toledo
RB: Moove Beech - Schuylkill
FB: Kicking Azzers - Toledo
WR: K. Hass - Zurich
WR: Blew by You - Reykjavik
WR: High Rollo - Reykjavik
TE: Colby Browning - Dusseldorf
OT: Uncle Flappy - Dusseldorf
OT: Pancake Zilla - Dusseldorf
C: Leroy Jethro - Bipolar
OG: William Shieldington - Dusseldorf
OG: Fat Bastard Ate You - Schuylkill

DE: Poindexter Manly - Zurich
DE: Terry Frisk - Reykjavik
DT: Henry La Serre - Zurich
DT: Turk n Tank - Dusseldorf
OLB: Crusher Butkus - Toledo
MLB: Devon Taylor - Bellingham
OLB: Brock Smashface - Schuylkill
CB: Hank "Natty" Light - Zurich
CB: Ryan Croma - Subotica
CB: Baxter Serafin - Dusseldorf
FS: Sandy .- Bipolar
SS: Strong'em All - Bellingham

K: Its...Good - London
P: Mason "Big Boot" Crosby - Toledo
KR: Wide Recieves - Zurich
PR:Foux du Fafa - Dusseldorf

I respect everyone's opinions and votes here but I felt like I wanted to clarify something about the voting for the DT's. As someone who's tried to specialize in building D-Linemen, usually the DT's with the best stats are going to be the ones playing the DT position instead of those playing NT and it shows in the voting. So far, the players at the NT/DT positions who have received votes are 7 DT's and 2 NT's. Currently, Henry La Serre & Spank Wire are the only 2 NT's that have received votes. One vote has also been cast for a LDE (Bruuuu uuuuce). It's just my own opinion, but in the future I feel the DT positions should be broken down into NT and DT. That way both positions would get equal voting. It's kind of like having the LB positions separated instead of just having LB listed. The same could also be done with other linemen, both on Offense & Defense such as LOT, LG, RG, ROT, LDE & RDE. There's actually a difference in these player's responsibilities and also in their builds. Some O-Linemen are built for pass blocking and others built for run blocking. For DE's, usually your RDE is your pass rushing DE while your LDE is your containment DE.

THings look to be shaping up pretty interesting in Alpha

Props to all the Alpha guys for keeping this rolling....

Originally posted by baronvoned
I respect everyone's opinions and votes here but I felt like I wanted to clarify something about the voting for the DT's. As someone who's tried to specialize in building D-Linemen, usually the DT's with the best stats are going to be the ones playing the DT position instead of those playing NT and it shows in the voting. So far, the players at the NT/DT positions who have received votes are 7 DT's and 2 NT's. Currently, Henry La Serre & Spank Wire are the only 2 NT's that have received votes. One vote has also been cast for a LDE (Bruuuu uuuuce). It's just my own opinion, but in the future I feel the DT positions should be broken down into NT and DT. That way both positions would get equal voting. It's kind of like having the LB positions separated instead of just having LB listed. The same could also be done with other linemen, both on Offense & Defense such as LOT, LG, RG, ROT, LDE & RDE.

There just isn't a good way to do it in GLB. It is almost all stat driven. There ae some olinemen who are outstanding but don't have the pancakes so no one notices them. I have a CB who hardly gives up any yardage but I didn't even vote for him because I knew no one would notice him. That is probably true for a gap filling, space eating NT's, great blocking FBs and on and on. If it were a real team these guys would get noticed.

I have no problem with your suggestion other than it already takes quite a bit of work to figure these out and since GLB doesn't differentiate DT/NT it would take a lot more work than a lot of people would put into it.. I'm just saying there is no way we can get even close to an accurate system. This is just a fun exercise that helps keep things interesting.

Stonehenge, I agree with you that there would be more work involved in doing what I suggested, but I just felt it was a way to hopefully get players noticed who otherwise wouldn't be, just like you mentioned. I was also trying to go along with one of the rules for this that states, "Use stats in your voting sure, but dont base everything completely off this. Look for hugely inflated stats in games, etc. and use things such as: team success, valuability to team. (Example- with LOT's especially, how many sacks did they allow? For all OL look at how many sacks and how many rushing yards the team had not necessarily only pancakes). In essence, vote fairly and put time into it, dont vote blindly otherwise it loses its purpose."

It's just my opinion, but it shouldn't just be based entirely on stats. Most of all though and you are so right when you said that this is just a game and everyone should have fun with it.

Terry Frisk has played about 50/50 LDE and RDE, and put up the same numbers at each position. how would you classify that? and how could you tell if a player has moved around unless you watched every game. and what about the players who say start at LDE and backup at RDE? it just gets too messy

Originally posted by proaxis
Terry Frisk has played about 50/50 LDE and RDE, and put up the same numbers at each position. how would you classify that? and how could you tell if a player has moved around unless you watched every game. and what about the players who say start at LDE and backup at RDE? it just gets too messy

I see where you're coming from on this and it would make it messy trying to break everything down, especially for those who don't have the time needed to do it. I guess since it sounds like that's the concensus of most everyone, we should also start having only 3 LB spots on the All Pro Team and not break that down as far as OLB & MLB since so many play more than just one of these positions.

At any rate, all players who are voted for should be commended and I congratulate all of them for the excellent jobs they do.

It might be to late now. But what if we had the coaches nominate their own players who they have watched this whole season to be in the probowl. Then we vote off of those. Like I have a very good CB who doesn't have very many tackles or any INT but has shut down a ton of WR or a OT who has been solid all season but just a dozen pancakes or so. It would take more time but it might be more accurate on who are the best players.

Originally posted by moshea59
It might be to late now. But what if we had the coaches nominate their own players who they have watched this whole season to be in the probowl. Then we vote off of those. Like I have a very good CB who doesn't have very many tackles or any INT but has shut down a ton of WR or a OT who has been solid all season but just a dozen pancakes or so. It would take more time but it might be more accurate on who are the best players.

That might work but only as a supplement. It seems there are too many positions to have it work out all on it's own. I also won't put any more work into it. I looked at stats, situations (like what kind of oline did a RB have), the greasemonkey pro bowl score script, and my own experience from games this year. And I even think that was too much work.

Is there a probowl script? I haven't looked at anynew ones in a few months.

Originally posted by moshea59
It might be to late now. But what if we had the coaches nominate their own players who they have watched this whole season to be in the probowl. Then we vote off of those. Like I have a very good CB who doesn't have very many tackles or any INT but has shut down a ton of WR or a OT who has been solid all season but just a dozen pancakes or so. It would take more time but it might be more accurate on who are the best players. I know what you mean man. Hell, Disco's rocking it on both sides of the ball. It's cool though. This is just a fun little recognition of the top performers (statistically). There are so many factors that you can't really narrow it down to true Pro Bowl status. Hell, even the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest... so who really cares. It's all for fun.

Owner - Shuykill River Sharks

Wow, I hadn't even looked in this forum. I'm glad I did though. I'll through out my votes, but I'm not the best judge on these kinds of things.

MY VOTES:
QB: Tarek McCollum - Subotica
RB: Rufus Hammer - Toledo
RB: Moove Beech - Schuylkill
FB:
WR: Blew by You - Zurich
WR: K. Haas - Zurich
WR: Mookie "The Rookie" Johnson - Schuylkill
TE:
OT: Uncle Flappy - Dusseldorf
OT: Pancake Zilla - Dusseldorf
C: Leroy Jethro - Bipolar
OG: Huard Guard - Dusseldorf
OG: William Shieldington - Dusseldorf

DE: Terry Frisk - Reykjavic
DE: "Michael Strahan" - Toldedo
DT: Turk n Tank - Dusseldorf
DT: Kevin Frahm - Reykjavic
OLB: Cornelius "Biscuit" Bennett - Dusseldorf
MLB: Devon Taylor - Bellingham
OLB: Brock Smashface - Schuylkill
CB: Baxter Serafin - Dusseldorf
CB: Ryan Croma - Subotica
CB: Francisco Navarro - Schuylkill
FS: Beer Is Good - Toledo
SS: soko stark - SU

K: Mr ? - Schuylkill
P:
KR:
PR:


I didn't choose a FB, TE, P, or KR's. There wasn't a quick way to look at a few of them, so I decided it would be fairer just not to vote for those.