so much effort....too much effort lol
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Originally posted by sxewesley
I almost posted that the 'Nites were too low in that thread. Then I remembered I was lazy and moved on with my life.
Im happy where The Nites are ranked. We have had many great seasons and championships in Oceania. The reason we are ranked lower is because of scrimmages. Sadly scrimmages are a huge factor in how you get judged GLB wide. If you go back and look at most of our scrimmages, we pretty much use scrimmages to work on new things. Oceania is first priority for us, then scrimmages. We have learned a lot of AI settings and plays through our scrimmages.
Until we take all scrimmages seriously...we will never be ranked much higher. That is alright with us. Im grateful for just being on the list at all.
Edit...
After reading through all the rankings and seeing all the teams...we might be somewhat under ranked. Sorry, but I dont think WSI, MM, and Tits are that much better than us...if at all. Not to mention, Zeta is tougher top to bottom. I wished we were all in the same conference......NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK! I just think if teams are closely ranked some past history and playoff records have to be taken into account. 16-1 playoff record has count for something.
Thanks for all the hard work that has been put into this. The commentary is great.
Highfive!
I almost posted that the 'Nites were too low in that thread. Then I remembered I was lazy and moved on with my life.
Im happy where The Nites are ranked. We have had many great seasons and championships in Oceania. The reason we are ranked lower is because of scrimmages. Sadly scrimmages are a huge factor in how you get judged GLB wide. If you go back and look at most of our scrimmages, we pretty much use scrimmages to work on new things. Oceania is first priority for us, then scrimmages. We have learned a lot of AI settings and plays through our scrimmages.
Until we take all scrimmages seriously...we will never be ranked much higher. That is alright with us. Im grateful for just being on the list at all.
Edit...
After reading through all the rankings and seeing all the teams...we might be somewhat under ranked. Sorry, but I dont think WSI, MM, and Tits are that much better than us...if at all. Not to mention, Zeta is tougher top to bottom. I wished we were all in the same conference......NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK! I just think if teams are closely ranked some past history and playoff records have to be taken into account. 16-1 playoff record has count for something.
Thanks for all the hard work that has been put into this. The commentary is great.
Highfive!
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I've been lobbying for you guys and had TIT, NITES, and MM all ranked close together in my submission. We've made an effort to just look at this season's stuff, but after watching you guys for the past 5 seasons - your success and the success you guys have been associated with (Cans, Fakaofo, etc.) is stuck in my head (I watched Vin Numbers break tackles for three seasons before we finally got the chance to face him, and still couldn't shut him down.)
And, I personally try to use scrimmage results only as a factor in sifting out closely ranked teams.
Good luck the rest of the way over there in Zeta, it's going to be tough on both sides of the league in round 2 and beyond.
And, I personally try to use scrimmage results only as a factor in sifting out closely ranked teams.
Good luck the rest of the way over there in Zeta, it's going to be tough on both sides of the league in round 2 and beyond.
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Ok, I have heard enough.
I get so sick hearing how much of a meat grinder Zeta is and the whole top to bottom chest bumping song and dance. Why the hell don't you guys come out and say it, you have no respect for Cajun, Bombsquad, Mustangs and The Bandits; or any Alpha team for that mater. I can tell you one thing, until you guys in Zeta start getting you some Invader, TIT and Mean Machine ass; you have no room to talk. I pull for Alpha because that is my conference, but I don’t feel the need to talk down Zeta to spike our ego. You don't see me are any of the other owners crying about how teams Zeta teams get a free ride until the playoffs or how easy it is because the BIG 3 of Oceania are in Alpha. If that irritates some of you then that’s awesome, that’s the same crap we have to listen to on a regular basis. I try to scrimmage as many Zeta teams that will except for the #1 reason, I’m tired of listening to grown men cry. We damn sure are not afraid to loose to one of the Great Zeta Meatgrinders. The beauty of being in Alpha you don’t have to worry about being in some total GLB rankings, you can bank on 2-3 losses a season. We play to win, we play anyone, and make no excuses. We have won some games and we have lost some games but the only teams to really hand us our ass are in Alpha! I never claimed my bunch was anything more than over achieving playoff fodder, maybe its time to face the facts with your own squads instead of crying about what might have been.
I get so sick hearing how much of a meat grinder Zeta is and the whole top to bottom chest bumping song and dance. Why the hell don't you guys come out and say it, you have no respect for Cajun, Bombsquad, Mustangs and The Bandits; or any Alpha team for that mater. I can tell you one thing, until you guys in Zeta start getting you some Invader, TIT and Mean Machine ass; you have no room to talk. I pull for Alpha because that is my conference, but I don’t feel the need to talk down Zeta to spike our ego. You don't see me are any of the other owners crying about how teams Zeta teams get a free ride until the playoffs or how easy it is because the BIG 3 of Oceania are in Alpha. If that irritates some of you then that’s awesome, that’s the same crap we have to listen to on a regular basis. I try to scrimmage as many Zeta teams that will except for the #1 reason, I’m tired of listening to grown men cry. We damn sure are not afraid to loose to one of the Great Zeta Meatgrinders. The beauty of being in Alpha you don’t have to worry about being in some total GLB rankings, you can bank on 2-3 losses a season. We play to win, we play anyone, and make no excuses. We have won some games and we have lost some games but the only teams to really hand us our ass are in Alpha! I never claimed my bunch was anything more than over achieving playoff fodder, maybe its time to face the facts with your own squads instead of crying about what might have been.
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Originally posted by steelerblitz
Originally posted by sxewesley
I almost posted that the 'Nites were too low in that thread. Then I remembered I was lazy and moved on with my life.
Im happy where The Nites are ranked. We have had many great seasons and championships in Oceania. The reason we are ranked lower is because of scrimmages. Sadly scrimmages are a huge factor in how you get judged GLB wide. If you go back and look at most of our scrimmages, we pretty much use scrimmages to work on new things. Oceania is first priority for us, then scrimmages. We have learned a lot of AI settings and plays through our scrimmages.
Until we take all scrimmages seriously...we will never be ranked much higher. That is alright with us. Im grateful for just being on the list at all.
Edit...
After reading through all the rankings and seeing all the teams...we might be somewhat under ranked. Sorry, but I dont think WSI, MM, and Tits are that much better than us...if at all. Not to mention, Zeta is tougher top to bottom. I wished we were all in the same conference......NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK! I just think if teams are closely ranked some past history and playoff records have to be taken into account. 16-1 playoff record has count for something.
Thanks for all the hard work that has been put into this. The commentary is great.
Highfive!
I'd love to scrim the Nites every season . . . of course I'd rather play you in the Finals, but short of that, I'll shoot a friendly as soon as we both are eliminated.
I love playing the'Nites. Always a good game.
Originally posted by sxewesley
I almost posted that the 'Nites were too low in that thread. Then I remembered I was lazy and moved on with my life.
Im happy where The Nites are ranked. We have had many great seasons and championships in Oceania. The reason we are ranked lower is because of scrimmages. Sadly scrimmages are a huge factor in how you get judged GLB wide. If you go back and look at most of our scrimmages, we pretty much use scrimmages to work on new things. Oceania is first priority for us, then scrimmages. We have learned a lot of AI settings and plays through our scrimmages.
Until we take all scrimmages seriously...we will never be ranked much higher. That is alright with us. Im grateful for just being on the list at all.
Edit...
After reading through all the rankings and seeing all the teams...we might be somewhat under ranked. Sorry, but I dont think WSI, MM, and Tits are that much better than us...if at all. Not to mention, Zeta is tougher top to bottom. I wished we were all in the same conference......NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK! I just think if teams are closely ranked some past history and playoff records have to be taken into account. 16-1 playoff record has count for something.
Thanks for all the hard work that has been put into this. The commentary is great.
Highfive!
I'd love to scrim the Nites every season . . . of course I'd rather play you in the Finals, but short of that, I'll shoot a friendly as soon as we both are eliminated.
I love playing the'Nites. Always a good game.
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Originally posted by midlineveer
Ok, I have heard enough.
I get so sick hearing how much of a meat grinder Zeta is and the whole top to bottom chest bumping song and dance. Why the hell don't you guys come out and say it, you have no respect for Cajun, Bombsquad, Mustangs and The Bandits; or any Alpha team for that mater. I can tell you one thing, until you guys in Zeta start getting you some Invader, TIT and Mean Machine ass; you have no room to talk. I pull for Alpha because that is my conference, but I don’t feel the need to talk down Zeta to spike our ego. You don't see me are any of the other owners crying about how teams Zeta teams get a free ride until the playoffs or how easy it is because the BIG 3 of Oceania are in Alpha. If that irritates some of you then that’s awesome, that’s the same crap we have to listen to on a regular basis. I try to scrimmage as many Zeta teams that will except for the #1 reason, I’m tired of listening to grown men cry. We damn sure are not afraid to loose to one of the Great Zeta Meatgrinders. The beauty of being in Alpha you don’t have to worry about being in some total GLB rankings, you can bank on 2-3 losses a season. We play to win, we play anyone, and make no excuses. We have won some games and we have lost some games but the only teams to really hand us our ass are in Alpha! I never claimed my bunch was anything more than over achieving playoff fodder, maybe its time to face the facts with your own squads instead of crying about what might have been.
Somebody pissed in Middy's cheerios, and I bet it was somebody in Zeta.
SCACE? Lukin? Comicfan? Who did it?
Ok, I have heard enough.
I get so sick hearing how much of a meat grinder Zeta is and the whole top to bottom chest bumping song and dance. Why the hell don't you guys come out and say it, you have no respect for Cajun, Bombsquad, Mustangs and The Bandits; or any Alpha team for that mater. I can tell you one thing, until you guys in Zeta start getting you some Invader, TIT and Mean Machine ass; you have no room to talk. I pull for Alpha because that is my conference, but I don’t feel the need to talk down Zeta to spike our ego. You don't see me are any of the other owners crying about how teams Zeta teams get a free ride until the playoffs or how easy it is because the BIG 3 of Oceania are in Alpha. If that irritates some of you then that’s awesome, that’s the same crap we have to listen to on a regular basis. I try to scrimmage as many Zeta teams that will except for the #1 reason, I’m tired of listening to grown men cry. We damn sure are not afraid to loose to one of the Great Zeta Meatgrinders. The beauty of being in Alpha you don’t have to worry about being in some total GLB rankings, you can bank on 2-3 losses a season. We play to win, we play anyone, and make no excuses. We have won some games and we have lost some games but the only teams to really hand us our ass are in Alpha! I never claimed my bunch was anything more than over achieving playoff fodder, maybe its time to face the facts with your own squads instead of crying about what might have been.
Somebody pissed in Middy's cheerios, and I bet it was somebody in Zeta.
SCACE? Lukin? Comicfan? Who did it?
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Originally posted by steelerblitz
Originally posted by sxewesley
I almost posted that the 'Nites were too low in that thread. Then I remembered I was lazy and moved on with my life.
Im happy where The Nites are ranked. We have had many great seasons and championships in Oceania. The reason we are ranked lower is because of scrimmages. Sadly scrimmages are a huge factor in how you get judged GLB wide. If you go back and look at most of our scrimmages, we pretty much use scrimmages to work on new things. Oceania is first priority for us, then scrimmages. We have learned a lot of AI settings and plays through our scrimmages.
Until we take all scrimmages seriously...we will never be ranked much higher. That is alright with us. Im grateful for just being on the list at all.
Edit...
After reading through all the rankings and seeing all the teams...we might be somewhat under ranked. Sorry, but I dont think WSI, MM, and Tits are that much better than us...if at all. Not to mention, Zeta is tougher top to bottom. I wished we were all in the same conference......NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK! I just think if teams are closely ranked some past history and playoff records have to be taken into account. 16-1 playoff record has count for something.
Thanks for all the hard work that has been put into this. The commentary is great.
Highfive!
The difficulty isn't taking scrimmages more seriously, the difficulty is in determining which scrims were taken seriously and which were for testing AI, etc. But that applies to all teams in all leagues, you can't look at any team without wondering which scrims were for real. Until Bort allows us to determine public/private scrimmages we're stuck seeing both the serious/tournament scrimmages as well as the lab sessions.
Originally posted by sxewesley
I almost posted that the 'Nites were too low in that thread. Then I remembered I was lazy and moved on with my life.
Im happy where The Nites are ranked. We have had many great seasons and championships in Oceania. The reason we are ranked lower is because of scrimmages. Sadly scrimmages are a huge factor in how you get judged GLB wide. If you go back and look at most of our scrimmages, we pretty much use scrimmages to work on new things. Oceania is first priority for us, then scrimmages. We have learned a lot of AI settings and plays through our scrimmages.
Until we take all scrimmages seriously...we will never be ranked much higher. That is alright with us. Im grateful for just being on the list at all.
Edit...
After reading through all the rankings and seeing all the teams...we might be somewhat under ranked. Sorry, but I dont think WSI, MM, and Tits are that much better than us...if at all. Not to mention, Zeta is tougher top to bottom. I wished we were all in the same conference......NOW THAT WOULD BE SICK! I just think if teams are closely ranked some past history and playoff records have to be taken into account. 16-1 playoff record has count for something.
Thanks for all the hard work that has been put into this. The commentary is great.
Highfive!
The difficulty isn't taking scrimmages more seriously, the difficulty is in determining which scrims were taken seriously and which were for testing AI, etc. But that applies to all teams in all leagues, you can't look at any team without wondering which scrims were for real. Until Bort allows us to determine public/private scrimmages we're stuck seeing both the serious/tournament scrimmages as well as the lab sessions.
Last edited Dec 16, 2008 08:23:26
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Personally, this is why I weight games in unofficial tournaments or Pro vs. Pro games a whole lot higher than random scrims. With those high-profile matchups, you've got a pretty good idea both teams are playing to win.
There is a lot more attention being paid across leagues among the top-ranked teams. This season shows that, if you want to be considered the best of the best, you can't take any scrims off. You have to play every one of them to win.
As for the Nites, I'd say that in order to improve their stock, they need to schedule more scrims against more high-profile teams. I only see two scrims against fellow top-25 teams (loss to Yetis, win over Krazy Monkeys). It doesn't help that nobody else in the conference made the top-25.
There is a lot more attention being paid across leagues among the top-ranked teams. This season shows that, if you want to be considered the best of the best, you can't take any scrims off. You have to play every one of them to win.
As for the Nites, I'd say that in order to improve their stock, they need to schedule more scrims against more high-profile teams. I only see two scrims against fellow top-25 teams (loss to Yetis, win over Krazy Monkeys). It doesn't help that nobody else in the conference made the top-25.
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Originally posted by midlineveer
Ok, I have heard enough.
I get so sick hearing how much of a meat grinder Zeta is and the whole top to bottom chest bumping song and dance. Why the hell don't you guys come out and say it, you have no respect for Cajun, Bombsquad, Mustangs and The Bandits; or any Alpha team for that mater. I can tell you one thing, until you guys in Zeta start getting you some Invader, TIT and Mean Machine ass; you have no room to talk. I pull for Alpha because that is my conference, but I don’t feel the need to talk down Zeta to spike our ego. You don't see me are any of the other owners crying about how teams Zeta teams get a free ride until the playoffs or how easy it is because the BIG 3 of Oceania are in Alpha. If that irritates some of you then that’s awesome, that’s the same crap we have to listen to on a regular basis. I try to scrimmage as many Zeta teams that will except for the #1 reason, I’m tired of listening to grown men cry. We damn sure are not afraid to loose to one of the Great Zeta Meatgrinders. The beauty of being in Alpha you don’t have to worry about being in some total GLB rankings, you can bank on 2-3 losses a season. We play to win, we play anyone, and make no excuses. We have won some games and we have lost some games but the only teams to really hand us our ass are in Alpha! I never claimed my bunch was anything more than over achieving playoff fodder, maybe its time to face the facts with your own squads instead of crying about what might have been.
Wow. A few things jump out at me when reading this:
I don't see anyone else whining or crying about the differences in the two conferences, your post was the first hissy fit I have seen about this.
I can only assume this is in response to the talk about the 'Nites. The 'Nites have won back to back OPL championships, have been in 3 straight championship games and only lost the last one to MM by two points. They are at least equal to MM, WS or TiTs. No one was crying about anything, the subject was these subjective overall rankings, so we were discussing that, big fucking deal.
The fact that Alpha has more guts, the results of the Alpha Vs. Zeta matches, 11-5 in Zetas favor, with three wins coming from the big 3 for Alpha and common sense all dictate that Zeta is stronger top to bottom. Just look at your team who lost to Fiji as an example, they barely made the playoffs in Zeta. Additionally, CCC was not even challenged in any of their games outside of the big 3 and a middle of the pack Zeta team.
Take some of your own advice; until one of you other Alpha teams can beat TiTs, WS or MM you have no room to talk, it will just be the big three and some other teams in Alpha. Zeta > Alpha top to bottom, all there is to it.
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Ok, I have heard enough.
I get so sick hearing how much of a meat grinder Zeta is and the whole top to bottom chest bumping song and dance. Why the hell don't you guys come out and say it, you have no respect for Cajun, Bombsquad, Mustangs and The Bandits; or any Alpha team for that mater. I can tell you one thing, until you guys in Zeta start getting you some Invader, TIT and Mean Machine ass; you have no room to talk. I pull for Alpha because that is my conference, but I don’t feel the need to talk down Zeta to spike our ego. You don't see me are any of the other owners crying about how teams Zeta teams get a free ride until the playoffs or how easy it is because the BIG 3 of Oceania are in Alpha. If that irritates some of you then that’s awesome, that’s the same crap we have to listen to on a regular basis. I try to scrimmage as many Zeta teams that will except for the #1 reason, I’m tired of listening to grown men cry. We damn sure are not afraid to loose to one of the Great Zeta Meatgrinders. The beauty of being in Alpha you don’t have to worry about being in some total GLB rankings, you can bank on 2-3 losses a season. We play to win, we play anyone, and make no excuses. We have won some games and we have lost some games but the only teams to really hand us our ass are in Alpha! I never claimed my bunch was anything more than over achieving playoff fodder, maybe its time to face the facts with your own squads instead of crying about what might have been.
Wow. A few things jump out at me when reading this:
I don't see anyone else whining or crying about the differences in the two conferences, your post was the first hissy fit I have seen about this.
I can only assume this is in response to the talk about the 'Nites. The 'Nites have won back to back OPL championships, have been in 3 straight championship games and only lost the last one to MM by two points. They are at least equal to MM, WS or TiTs. No one was crying about anything, the subject was these subjective overall rankings, so we were discussing that, big fucking deal.
The fact that Alpha has more guts, the results of the Alpha Vs. Zeta matches, 11-5 in Zetas favor, with three wins coming from the big 3 for Alpha and common sense all dictate that Zeta is stronger top to bottom. Just look at your team who lost to Fiji as an example, they barely made the playoffs in Zeta. Additionally, CCC was not even challenged in any of their games outside of the big 3 and a middle of the pack Zeta team.
Take some of your own advice; until one of you other Alpha teams can beat TiTs, WS or MM you have no room to talk, it will just be the big three and some other teams in Alpha. Zeta > Alpha top to bottom, all there is to it.
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You can not accuse me of having a hissy fit when I already accused you of crying and stroking you own ego, that's not how it works. You are allowed to post all the meaningless facts you want that is your right, some folks would rather the fact, I personally think they are over rated.
I relish the success I have had in pissing you off and commend you on the correct spelling of meat grinder 13 million times, there are some on this board that put considerable enfaces on spelling and proper grammar.
You can attack my team personally all you want, I feel no need to stoop to our level. I personally thought your teams, MTD, The Bandits and The Heat are all loving and compassionate organizations.
I relish the success I have had in pissing you off and commend you on the correct spelling of meat grinder 13 million times, there are some on this board that put considerable enfaces on spelling and proper grammar.
You can attack my team personally all you want, I feel no need to stoop to our level. I personally thought your teams, MTD, The Bandits and The Heat are all loving and compassionate organizations.
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enfaces?
is that like in-feces or something?
i<3 you middy. its been a secret though, as a Tongan, its my job to loathe you forever since season 2-3.
is that like in-feces or something?
i<3 you middy. its been a secret though, as a Tongan, its my job to loathe you forever since season 2-3.
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I don't loathe Tonga but, news of a rash outbreak of syphilis in your clubhouse would be music to my ears. As you pointed out I'm not one of those scholaresque types that would let a few misspellings keep me down.
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