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Originally posted by glenniosaurus
I dont see why were straight up.
We won by 20+ last game.
Whoops
I dont see why were straight up.
We won by 20+ last game.
Whoops
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damn no one came out ahead
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damn no one came out ahead
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Originally posted by djc6535
Originally posted by glenniosaurus
I dont see why were straight up.
We won by 20+ last game.
Whoops
IT's too bad. You can have superior planning and great builds but if you have bad luck then you can be in real trouble when outleveled by 5+ across the board :/
Originally posted by glenniosaurus
I dont see why were straight up.
We won by 20+ last game.
Whoops
IT's too bad. You can have superior planning and great builds but if you have bad luck then you can be in real trouble when outleveled by 5+ across the board :/
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Originally posted by Darkstrand
Originally posted by djc6535
Originally posted by glenniosaurus
I dont see why were straight up.
We won by 20+ last game.
Whoops
IT's too bad. You can have superior planning and great builds but if you have bad luck then you can be in real trouble when outleveled by 5+ across the board :/
lol..... You guys had a great season, but I think its about time to drop that old song and dance. You had the opportunity to recruit higher level players like everyone else, you choose not to. And I'm not even saying that was the wrong choice, obviously you guys had a great team and some great builds, but you're on the same playing field as everyone else, so acting like the team was at a substantial disadvantage because of a choice that your GMs and your owner made, is ridiculous.
This isn't the Rays vs the Yankees here.
Originally posted by djc6535
Originally posted by glenniosaurus
I dont see why were straight up.
We won by 20+ last game.
Whoops
IT's too bad. You can have superior planning and great builds but if you have bad luck then you can be in real trouble when outleveled by 5+ across the board :/
lol..... You guys had a great season, but I think its about time to drop that old song and dance. You had the opportunity to recruit higher level players like everyone else, you choose not to. And I'm not even saying that was the wrong choice, obviously you guys had a great team and some great builds, but you're on the same playing field as everyone else, so acting like the team was at a substantial disadvantage because of a choice that your GMs and your owner made, is ridiculous.
This isn't the Rays vs the Yankees here.
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i dont think darkstrand is saying we're at any disadvantage, or that we had no chance to recruit other players. in fact, i've pointed out plenty of times that i think we're equal or better than teams that out-level us.
his post was pointing out that we just have less room for error because of it. we beat the wildcats the 1st time on a nearly flawless game. our 2nd game -- i think both teams played incredibly well, but also incredibly even, and i doubt the wildcats will argue that. but a single red zone INT TD in the beginning of the game is a 14 point change the other way, the difference in the game, and the error that we had no room to make.
his post was pointing out that we just have less room for error because of it. we beat the wildcats the 1st time on a nearly flawless game. our 2nd game -- i think both teams played incredibly well, but also incredibly even, and i doubt the wildcats will argue that. but a single red zone INT TD in the beginning of the game is a 14 point change the other way, the difference in the game, and the error that we had no room to make.
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Originally posted by bacardi
i dont think darkstrand is saying we're at any disadvantage, or that we had no chance to recruit other players. in fact, i've pointed out plenty of times that i think we're equal or better than teams that out-level us.
his post was pointing out that we just have less room for error because of it. we beat the wildcats the 1st time on a nearly flawless game. our 2nd game -- i think both teams played incredibly well, but also incredibly even, and i doubt the wildcats will argue that. but a single red zone INT TD in the beginning of the game is a 14 point change the other way, the difference in the game, and the error that we had no room to make.
thats certainly true, but there was no reason for him to imply that your team is superior and the Wildcats were lucky to win. You both have amazing teams and I wouldn't want to play against either of you, but it seems a bit insulting to imply that one team made the better gameplan and had better builds but the other team just got lucky to win the game, both teams were definitely ready to go and leave it at that, imo
btw...I hate the 14 point turnaround saying...not that it is necessarily untrue (although in this case an incomplete pass instead of the pick would have forced you to take a FG) but when people say 14 point turnaround they are automatically assuming the the team that just scored would have been stopped in their next possession because you assume that your team scores, then your team gets the ball back without them scoring. That's probably confusing and I'm sure most people disagree, but that's just how I think of it if you assume each possession is worth 7 points.
i dont think darkstrand is saying we're at any disadvantage, or that we had no chance to recruit other players. in fact, i've pointed out plenty of times that i think we're equal or better than teams that out-level us.
his post was pointing out that we just have less room for error because of it. we beat the wildcats the 1st time on a nearly flawless game. our 2nd game -- i think both teams played incredibly well, but also incredibly even, and i doubt the wildcats will argue that. but a single red zone INT TD in the beginning of the game is a 14 point change the other way, the difference in the game, and the error that we had no room to make.
thats certainly true, but there was no reason for him to imply that your team is superior and the Wildcats were lucky to win. You both have amazing teams and I wouldn't want to play against either of you, but it seems a bit insulting to imply that one team made the better gameplan and had better builds but the other team just got lucky to win the game, both teams were definitely ready to go and leave it at that, imo
btw...I hate the 14 point turnaround saying...not that it is necessarily untrue (although in this case an incomplete pass instead of the pick would have forced you to take a FG) but when people say 14 point turnaround they are automatically assuming the the team that just scored would have been stopped in their next possession because you assume that your team scores, then your team gets the ball back without them scoring. That's probably confusing and I'm sure most people disagree, but that's just how I think of it if you assume each possession is worth 7 points.
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Uhh obviously we have the better builds and planning. Any time a team fails to win by 20+ with a 5 level advantage across the board it means you are out-planned and out built. If you think you took their team 5 levels ago that they'd have a chance you are out of your mind. Still even with bette builds and planning you're going to need things to break your way to beat a team that out levels you by that much and we didn't get the breaks.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
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Originally posted by Darkstrand
Uhh obviously we have the better builds and planning. Any time a team fails to win by 20+ with a 5 level advantage across the board it means you are out-planned and out built. If you think you took their team 5 levels ago that they'd have a chance you are out of your mind. Still even with bette builds and planning you're going to need things to break your way to beat a team that out levels you by that much and we didn't get the breaks.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
So quit crying about not getting the breaks and DO something about the fact that you NEED breaks to win. No offense Darkstrand, but this is the same song and dance you sing with the playbook in USA A5 too. It's getting old.
Uhh obviously we have the better builds and planning. Any time a team fails to win by 20+ with a 5 level advantage across the board it means you are out-planned and out built. If you think you took their team 5 levels ago that they'd have a chance you are out of your mind. Still even with bette builds and planning you're going to need things to break your way to beat a team that out levels you by that much and we didn't get the breaks.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
So quit crying about not getting the breaks and DO something about the fact that you NEED breaks to win. No offense Darkstrand, but this is the same song and dance you sing with the playbook in USA A5 too. It's getting old.
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Originally posted by djc6535
Originally posted by Darkstrand
Uhh obviously we have the better builds and planning. Any time a team fails to win by 20+ with a 5 level advantage across the board it means you are out-planned and out built. If you think you took their team 5 levels ago that they'd have a chance you are out of your mind. Still even with bette builds and planning you're going to need things to break your way to beat a team that out levels you by that much and we didn't get the breaks.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
So quit crying about not getting the breaks and DO something about the fact that you NEED breaks to win. No offense Darkstrand, but this is the same song and dance you sing with the playbook in USA A5 too. It's getting old.
Same song and dance?
Listen Charlotte's a good team. They've got levels and some good builds and reasonably clever gameplanning. BUt, of course Playbook is a better team adjusted for level. Dunno what to say dawg. I don't really think anybody would think otherwise except MAYBE a few homers.
I'm not complaining thats the way GLB works if you are elite for your level you'll get moved up until being built better and planning better won't always win it for you.
Originally posted by Darkstrand
Uhh obviously we have the better builds and planning. Any time a team fails to win by 20+ with a 5 level advantage across the board it means you are out-planned and out built. If you think you took their team 5 levels ago that they'd have a chance you are out of your mind. Still even with bette builds and planning you're going to need things to break your way to beat a team that out levels you by that much and we didn't get the breaks.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
So quit crying about not getting the breaks and DO something about the fact that you NEED breaks to win. No offense Darkstrand, but this is the same song and dance you sing with the playbook in USA A5 too. It's getting old.
Same song and dance?
Listen Charlotte's a good team. They've got levels and some good builds and reasonably clever gameplanning. BUt, of course Playbook is a better team adjusted for level. Dunno what to say dawg. I don't really think anybody would think otherwise except MAYBE a few homers.
I'm not complaining thats the way GLB works if you are elite for your level you'll get moved up until being built better and planning better won't always win it for you.
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Originally posted by Darkstrand
Originally posted by djc6535
Originally posted by Darkstrand
Uhh obviously we have the better builds and planning. Any time a team fails to win by 20+ with a 5 level advantage across the board it means you are out-planned and out built. If you think you took their team 5 levels ago that they'd have a chance you are out of your mind. Still even with bette builds and planning you're going to need things to break your way to beat a team that out levels you by that much and we didn't get the breaks.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
So quit crying about not getting the breaks and DO something about the fact that you NEED breaks to win. No offense Darkstrand, but this is the same song and dance you sing with the playbook in USA A5 too. It's getting old.
Same song and dance?
Listen Charlotte's a good team. They've got levels and decent builds. BUt, of course Playbook is a better team adjusted for level. Dunno what to say dawg. I don't really think anybody would think otherwise except MAYBE a few homers.
I'm not complaining thats the way GLB works if you are elite for your level you'll get moved up until being built better and planning better won't always win it for you.
I'm not saying that your players aren't very well built on either team. What I'm saying is that when you say something like
Originally posted by
if you have bad luck then you can be in real trouble when outleveled by 5+ across the board
it rings of someone making excuses and trying to trash the team that just won. I respect the way you've gone at the game. I think that more teams need to be more picky about how the players are constructed, not just how high leveled they are. but talking about how it is such a disadvantage rings a little hollow after a while.
Originally posted by djc6535
Originally posted by Darkstrand
Uhh obviously we have the better builds and planning. Any time a team fails to win by 20+ with a 5 level advantage across the board it means you are out-planned and out built. If you think you took their team 5 levels ago that they'd have a chance you are out of your mind. Still even with bette builds and planning you're going to need things to break your way to beat a team that out levels you by that much and we didn't get the breaks.
Cape Town probably got a league ahead of ourselves this season and way over-achieved. Next season I think we'll be up against more level competition.
So quit crying about not getting the breaks and DO something about the fact that you NEED breaks to win. No offense Darkstrand, but this is the same song and dance you sing with the playbook in USA A5 too. It's getting old.
Same song and dance?
Listen Charlotte's a good team. They've got levels and decent builds. BUt, of course Playbook is a better team adjusted for level. Dunno what to say dawg. I don't really think anybody would think otherwise except MAYBE a few homers.
I'm not complaining thats the way GLB works if you are elite for your level you'll get moved up until being built better and planning better won't always win it for you.
I'm not saying that your players aren't very well built on either team. What I'm saying is that when you say something like
Originally posted by
if you have bad luck then you can be in real trouble when outleveled by 5+ across the board
it rings of someone making excuses and trying to trash the team that just won. I respect the way you've gone at the game. I think that more teams need to be more picky about how the players are constructed, not just how high leveled they are. but talking about how it is such a disadvantage rings a little hollow after a while.
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Originally posted by bacardi
ed out plenty of times that i think we're equal or better than teams that out-level us.
his post was pointing out that we just have less room for error because of it. we beat the wildcats the 1st time on a nearly flawless game. our 2nd game -- i think both teams played incredibly well, but also incredibly even, and i doubt the wildcats will argue that. but a single red zone INT TD in the beginning of the game is a 14 point change the other way, the difference in the game, and the error that we had no room to make.
Now that is much more an opinion I'd respect. I would counter, however, that our team wouldn't have been able to afford to make a 14 point mistake either... It has nothing to do with level difference or 'superior gameplanning' (Note how little respect that gives the person who gameplanned our D that got that interception)... it has everything to do with neither team being a juggernaut that can afford to lose 14 points on one play.
ed out plenty of times that i think we're equal or better than teams that out-level us.
his post was pointing out that we just have less room for error because of it. we beat the wildcats the 1st time on a nearly flawless game. our 2nd game -- i think both teams played incredibly well, but also incredibly even, and i doubt the wildcats will argue that. but a single red zone INT TD in the beginning of the game is a 14 point change the other way, the difference in the game, and the error that we had no room to make.
Now that is much more an opinion I'd respect. I would counter, however, that our team wouldn't have been able to afford to make a 14 point mistake either... It has nothing to do with level difference or 'superior gameplanning' (Note how little respect that gives the person who gameplanned our D that got that interception)... it has everything to do with neither team being a juggernaut that can afford to lose 14 points on one play.
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If you make a GG thread after winning and not after losing I'm more than entitled to point out the level difference
heres a series of reminders about what happened to Longreach when you were approximately equal level to a teedub team:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=155755
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=200674
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=99774
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=53559
heres a series of reminders about what happened to Longreach when you were approximately equal level to a teedub team:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=155755
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=200674
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=99774
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=53559
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Hey you want respect, you got it. I personally nominated Glendorf as one of the all pro OTs to Warhawk. See what he does with it. I just don't care for excuses, no matter what they are.
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