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Originally posted by TUC
Originally posted by StiffarmSteve


I'm to loyal to my team to let that happen... we are a pretty tight group of guys.


Teams like yours are very rare. I have the luxury also in having a great group of guys..and one of the best GM groups around. I've been on many teams and I've leaned from those experiences. You don't see too many teams with players signed for 2-3 years..I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I wouldn't trade my players or GM's for anything.

Then we are much the same. Respect.

It is not a rule and it should be. Also, people shouldn't get any FP back when they "sell"--read gutt--their team. There are many things that GLB does which actually encouraging gutting. I still believe that the problem is that the circle of people around Bort whom he listens to are Mods who have themselves engaged in gutting. They don't think it is a problem. In our league, for example, we played West Virginia when they were good and just lost. Other teams got to play a gutted team. I am really not happy with devs--if I thought they were serious about the problem I could understand but I haven't seen much of an indication that they think it is a problem. Reshuffling will only help for a short period of time and then it starts all over again.Originally posted by TUC
I don't know if this is already a rule or not but.....if you gut a team or you let it fold, that owner should NEVER be allowed to have a team ever again...PERIOD

Originally posted by TUC
I don't know if this is already a rule or not but.....if you gut a team or you let it fold, that owner should NEVER be allowed to have a team ever again...PERIOD

+1

It bothers me though because some teams get a freebie win that other teams have to fight for and may lose--I think all games involving teams who gut during the season should be thrown out and not counted toward records. It isn't fair, quite simply.
We played West Virginia, for example, when they were still good--others got an easy win against a gutted team.
Originally posted by StiffarmSteve
Here is what I feel... Gutting is going to happen. I think at the end of the season, the team should be removed and put to the bottom of Africa and promoting a team up a division.

If I ever have to give up my team and one of my GMs don't want it... I'd definitely sign everyone to new deals ending when I let the team go. The players are on my team to play for me, or is friends with our GMs and a couple are my friends outside the GLB... who knows who would get the team next?!?!?!?! If its a bad owner, then they are stuck. And why should a new owner reek the benefits of my recruiting, negotiating and player relationships. I mean, they will already get a pretty well built stadium, they should at least have to go find their own players like I did.

But have no fear... Rhinos will be here till the GLB shuts down...

Also, to stop in-season gutting they could make it so contracts ONLY EXPIRE at end of season, Day 40. Problem solved. No in-season gutting.

Originally posted by FBGProfessor
Also, to stop in-season gutting they could make it so contracts ONLY EXPIRE at end of season, Day 40. Problem solved. No in-season gutting.

I agree with that 100%! All teams should at least finish the season...

Originally posted by Reggie Wilkins
Gutting and what it does to leagues is a really tough problem to deal with. I think 3 things could help a lot though.

.Offer long term deals for extending team ownership. There's no discount last I looked. This will encourage guys like victoruno to save some cash and pay for the team for several months, rather than checkin' the couch for change every month.

.Actually punish gutters. I've seen people trash gutting then do it themselves and join their friends team like nothing happened. Haven't heard of one person punished for gutting. Butter knife castration is harsh, how about suspending or banning?

.If a team auto-expires don't make it CPU. For a few days or so let the GM's run all tactic related stuff, freeze cutting/trading, and let someone buy the team. Someone might actually want it then. Look at WV...who would want that? And plus, I mean, it's in West Virginia. C'mon.


I mean wow! A man has family problems and has to get rid of his team because he didn't want to screw his guys over that he played with for a few seasons and no longer has time to manage his team, shows respect because my GM's have their teams to take care of and that means they cannot own take over the team. I mean when I do get through my family crisis I hope that I would have a chance to come back and play the game and own another team but when you say I should be banned or some crap like that give me a break this is a game and you have no idea why the team has been sold or why I was tring to hurry and get it done fast in hopes that someone would pick it up before the season end. Also I went out of my way to leave that team over 9 mil in the bank to find out they will not give the next owner to take ove the money that is stupid along with the stadium real dumb they should of sold the team the day after and gave the new owner option to keep the money and stadium or just be dropped to A#1 at the season 6 but hey it is a game and that is all, So ban me whatever I never was a bad owner never gave anyone any sh*t but I check back in to see how folks are doing and my ex team is used as example of someone needing banned. What a joke when you have your father about to pass on then come holla at me and maybe you will see why things happened the way they did.

One more thing if I knew I could get intouch with Bort before things and had time to speak about my situation I would have told him that I would be willing to buy the team back at double the price I paid for it and rebuilt it and been back as one of the top teams in this conference in two seasons. And it is funny how alot of teams use all the greasemonkey stuff to get the edge in this game and I never used it and was still in playoffs every season and conference championship game last season but hey I should be banned for Real Life Issue's.

Originally posted by Solo304
One more thing if I knew I could get intouch with Bort before things and had time to speak about my situation I would have told him that I would be willing to buy the team back at double the price I paid for it and rebuilt it and been back as one of the top teams in this conference in two seasons. And it is funny how alot of teams use all the greasemonkey stuff to get the edge in this game and I never used it and was still in playoffs every season and conference championship game last season but hey I should be banned for Real Life Issue's.

First off Solo304, I'm really sorry for your loss. A lot of guys get caught up in this game and say things they don't mean and obviously don't understand... Real world always comes before this game...

Plus Reggie Wilkins rubs people the wrong ways sometimes... lol

With that said, I hope to see you back in the league soon.

There are 7 teams in APL that are either gutted/never been competitive (and probably never will be). Hopefully they all GTFO.

Originally posted by RTJakarta
There are 7 teams in APL that are either gutted/never been competitive (and probably never will be). Hopefully they all GTFO.

Which teams do you think will be sold off this offseason? I know you have strong roots up there and probably have a very good picture.

I have to say that I have found Solo304 to be an excellent Agent - dutifull and honest - and he conducted himself professionaly at all times during the Placement of his Players. I agree that those who ruthlessly strip/gut teams and then move lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels to other teams should receive some type of censure however REAL LIFE happens - for all of us.

Originally posted by Solo304
Originally posted by Reggie Wilkins

Gutting and what it does to leagues is a really tough problem to deal with. I think 3 things could help a lot though.

.Offer long term deals for extending team ownership. There's no discount last I looked. This will encourage guys like victoruno to save some cash and pay for the team for several months, rather than checkin' the couch for change every month.

.Actually punish gutters. I've seen people trash gutting then do it themselves and join their friends team like nothing happened. Haven't heard of one person punished for gutting. Butter knife castration is harsh, how about suspending or banning?

.If a team auto-expires don't make it CPU. For a few days or so let the GM's run all tactic related stuff, freeze cutting/trading, and let someone buy the team. Someone might actually want it then. Look at WV...who would want that? And plus, I mean, it's in West Virginia. C'mon.


I mean wow! A man has family problems and has to get rid of his team because he didn't want to screw his guys over that he played with for a few seasons and no longer has time to manage his team, shows respect because my GM's have their teams to take care of and that means they cannot own take over the team. I mean when I do get through my family crisis I hope that I would have a chance to come back and play the game and own another team but when you say I should be banned or some crap like that give me a break this is a game and you have no idea why the team has been sold or why I was tring to hurry and get it done fast in hopes that someone would pick it up before the season end. Also I went out of my way to leave that team over 9 mil in the bank to find out they will not give the next owner to take ove the money that is stupid along with the stadium real dumb they should of sold the team the day after and gave the new owner option to keep the money and stadium or just be dropped to A#1 at the season 6 but hey it is a game and that is all, So ban me whatever I never was a bad owner never gave anyone any sh*t but I check back in to see how folks are doing and my ex team is used as example of someone needing banned. What a joke when you have your father about to pass on then come holla at me and maybe you will see why things happened the way they did.


I never said a disrespectful word about you. All I said was who would want to purchase your team now? That is not for debate, it's a CPU team in a 3 season old league. That has nothing to do with your personal problems, so don't bring me into them or act like I'm insensitive to them.

If you're experiencing a loss, I been there, I am sorry. Just don't tell me what life comes first, I'm playing a game here as well. All I was talking about is a game.

Originally posted by Reggie Wilkins
Originally posted by Solo304

Originally posted by Reggie Wilkins


Gutting and what it does to leagues is a really tough problem to deal with. I think 3 things could help a lot though.

.Offer long term deals for extending team ownership. There's no discount last I looked. This will encourage guys like victoruno to save some cash and pay for the team for several months, rather than checkin' the couch for change every month.

.Actually punish gutters. I've seen people trash gutting then do it themselves and join their friends team like nothing happened. Haven't heard of one person punished for gutting. Butter knife castration is harsh, how about suspending or banning?

.If a team auto-expires don't make it CPU. For a few days or so let the GM's run all tactic related stuff, freeze cutting/trading, and let someone buy the team. Someone might actually want it then. Look at WV...who would want that? And plus, I mean, it's in West Virginia. C'mon.


I mean wow! A man has family problems and has to get rid of his team because he didn't want to screw his guys over that he played with for a few seasons and no longer has time to manage his team, shows respect because my GM's have their teams to take care of and that means they cannot own take over the team. I mean when I do get through my family crisis I hope that I would have a chance to come back and play the game and own another team but when you say I should be banned or some crap like that give me a break this is a game and you have no idea why the team has been sold or why I was tring to hurry and get it done fast in hopes that someone would pick it up before the season end. Also I went out of my way to leave that team over 9 mil in the bank to find out they will not give the next owner to take ove the money that is stupid along with the stadium real dumb they should of sold the team the day after and gave the new owner option to keep the money and stadium or just be dropped to A#1 at the season 6 but hey it is a game and that is all, So ban me whatever I never was a bad owner never gave anyone any sh*t but I check back in to see how folks are doing and my ex team is used as example of someone needing banned. What a joke when you have your father about to pass on then come holla at me and maybe you will see why things happened the way they did.


I never said a disrespectful word about you. All I said was who would want to purchase your team now? That is not for debate, it's a CPU team in a 3 season old league. That has nothing to do with your personal problems, so don't bring me into them or act like I'm insensitive to them.

If you're experiencing a loss, I been there, I am sorry. Just don't tell me what life comes first, I'm playing a game here as well. All I was talking about is a game.

I am not bringing you into the situation, However never mentioning names I said that with a life issue I had to sell my team, you said that any owner that gutted a team should be banned or never own a team again. Now with that said I understand that the cpu team is a bad looking team but if the next owner wa able to keep the cash and the stadium that I have built that would be a big help to them and I did put alot of time to bring in as much money as I could for the team I wanted to give them a foot in the door but found out they will not keep any cash, that is what upsets me the most, Maybe I am the guy for the job and should ask Bort for the team back and explain the reason of why I did sell the team. I am sure that if I could get the team back I would be back up to full team staus in like 2-3 days as I would do as I have done in the past and work hard as hell to bring in the best players that I am able to get and set up shop.

4 CPU teams in APL will be relegated.

1 human owned team in last place will be relegated.

4 other human teams with 3 wins or less could be relegated.

That is 9 teams that could be relegated from APL. Any guesses whether the number will be higher or lower than 9?