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Originally posted by CelticRaider
Originally posted by Voltron



Yea, nothing like 4 levels of SP to gurantee you a win even if you wouldn't win it normally.

Further evidence of Voltron's faggotry. I like it much better when you are sucking on your pacifier and not crying this much you fucking baby.

That's not going to get you far, saying that to anyone is against the rules man.

Originally posted by kcfdx
As far as I'm concerned, Voltron is entitled to his opinion. I think a lot of the backlash against him stems from his position, although I'm sure some of you have developed personal grudges against him. I haven't, so this comment isn't intended to bash him. But I don't understand how the temporary boosts account for four levels of SP. Unless I'm wrong (I've never used them personally), the temp boost gives the player 5 temporary SP + 1 permanent SP. So shouldn't it only account for slightly more than 1 level worth of SP? If I'm wrong, please clarify.

Just to clarify how significant a "team" boost is.

You are looking at +5 to any one attribute for a game. At level 30+ you are looking at what would normally cost between 2 and 3 training points to raise by 1. This means you get 10 to 15 levels of increase in one shot to what is most likely your players strongest “bread and butter” attribute. You are instantly much stronger, faster or whatever than any non-boosted player on the field. If you coordinate this with your entire team you can easily instantly beat a team that you otherwise would normally not.

I am a little annoyed by the feature and not just for us. If you are a top team and the teams behind you are close but just not there yet, a championship caliber team could conceivably be eliminated from the playoff just because they are boosted against as every team’s biggest threat.

Where this season is concerned… and I know my opinion on this will be taken wrong by some on my own team, but after the 8th win I can care less. It is all about the playoffs after that. If we win we win if we don’t we don’t.

I will try and set us up to win every game and learn what I can good or bad from each and every one, but I fully understand that we have been targeted by some of the teams out there and if a win against us is important enough to blow their token wad on boosting for our game that I consider a compliment.

If we get beat straight up (no boost) then that is cool to, it would not be the first time…Well played.

I did spot some corrections that could be made, installed some new plays and over all it was worth the loss. I also spotted some WTF nonsensical moments but hell that is GLB.

On Voltron, he is a competitive person and is the furthest thing from and a$$hole you can get. People on the boards come to talk about our games, do power rankings and passively brag about how good they are. IMO if he is frustrated after a loss and expresses that, especially in manor in which he has, there is nothing wrong with that. It is not like he is out here calling people names or putting anybody down.

well i personally like the addition as it puts in that unexpected quality that any team can beat any other team during any game
its not just i know i am better than this team - we will win -

i like not knowing what the outcome will be
it requires a little more thought and a bit of the unknown - its nice to know the underdog has a shot, where as 2 seasons ago when i first joined the horde it wold have been nice to know that are not so good team at the time could have a shot and possibly be competitive against a team we shouldnt be(this is the only way people are going to continue to play is to know that just because they are out leveled it is not a guaranteed loss)
i dont see why more people cant see the excitement and unpredictability it can create - do you really want to continue to blow every team out?

Originally posted by eaglesfan20
well i personally like the addition as it puts in that unexpected quality that any team can beat any other team during any game
its not just i know i am better than this team - we will win -


Isn't that what the NFL is about? KC destroyed Denver a couple weeks ago...they must have boosted.

Re: Tracker

The only thing that bugged me about the way Voltron acted was he said (basically) the only way we beat you was by boosting. (This wasn’t the case)

That discredits my players, GMs and me.

We didn't target you guys (to boost) and I thought we weren't "there" yet to beat your team, but we game planned to win and it happened.

Originally posted by elDizzle
Originally posted by eaglesfan20

well i personally like the addition as it puts in that unexpected quality that any team can beat any other team during any game
its not just i know i am better than this team - we will win -


Isn't that what the NFL is about? KC destroyed Denver a couple weeks ago...they must have boosted.

There's a difference, if there was to say a team that the whole league hated, they could all save there boosts for that team and pretty much make them miss the playoffs.

Originally posted by Tracker
Originally posted by kcfdx

As far as I'm concerned, Voltron is entitled to his opinion. I think a lot of the backlash against him stems from his position, although I'm sure some of you have developed personal grudges against him. I haven't, so this comment isn't intended to bash him. But I don't understand how the temporary boosts account for four levels of SP. Unless I'm wrong (I've never used them personally), the temp boost gives the player 5 temporary SP + 1 permanent SP. So shouldn't it only account for slightly more than 1 level worth of SP? If I'm wrong, please clarify.

Just to clarify how significant a "team" boost is.

You are looking at +5 to any one attribute for a game. At level 30+ you are looking at what would normally cost between 2 and 3 training points to raise by 1. This means you get 10 to 15 levels of increase in one shot to what is most likely your players strongest “bread and butter” attribute. You are instantly much stronger, faster or whatever than any non-boosted player on the field. If you coordinate this with your entire team you can easily instantly beat a team that you otherwise would normally not.

I am a little annoyed by the feature and not just for us. If you are a top team and the teams behind you are close but just not there yet, a championship caliber team could conceivably be eliminated from the playoff just because they are boosted against as every team’s biggest threat.

Where this season is concerned… and I know my opinion on this will be taken wrong by some on my own team, but after the 8th win I can care less. It is all about the playoffs after that. If we win we win if we don’t we don’t.

I will try and set us up to win every game and learn what I can good or bad from each and every one, but I fully understand that we have been targeted by some of the teams out there and if a win against us is important enough to blow their token wad on boosting for our game that I consider a compliment.

If we get beat straight up (no boost) then that is cool to, it would not be the first time…Well played.

I did spot some corrections that could be made, installed some new plays and over all it was worth the loss. I also spotted some WTF nonsensical moments but hell that is GLB.

On Voltron, he is a competitive person and is the furthest thing from and a$$hole you can get. People on the boards come to talk about our games, do power rankings and passively brag about how good they are. IMO if he is frustrated after a loss and expresses that, especially in manor in which he has, there is nothing wrong with that. It is not like he is out here calling people names or putting anybody down.


I completely agree with you Tracker. While this feature is nice to have, when used as a team it can be playoff altering when in a way that shouldn't be there. I am not saying that I am totally against something like this, we may look into using it at some point in the season. I agree in the matter that if all the teams use this against a single team in the season, then it is in my opinion used with the wrong outcome in my opinion. Teams that are at the top of the league should always be in a position to win the league, and this ability could hamper that.

This is one of those things that people will love or hate (mostly hate when it is used against them, not singling anyone out). After a season with this ability out there, Bort may get enough input to retract this option. We will have to wait to see.

Originally posted by elDizzle
Originally posted by eaglesfan20

well i personally like the addition as it puts in that unexpected quality that any team can beat any other team during any game
its not just i know i am better than this team - we will win -


Isn't that what the NFL is about? KC destroyed Denver a couple weeks ago...they must have boosted.

LOL.......I am a HUGE KC FAN........Can I spend my Flex Points to boost them all season?

Originally posted by Voltron
Originally posted by kcfdx

As far as I'm concerned, Voltron is entitled to his opinion. I think a lot of the backlash against him stems from his position, although I'm sure some of you have developed personal grudges against him. I haven't, so this comment isn't intended to bash him. But I don't understand how the temporary boosts account for four levels of SP. Unless I'm wrong (I've never used them personally), the temp boost gives the player 5 temporary SP + 1 permanent SP. So shouldn't it only account for slightly more than 1 level worth of SP? If I'm wrong, please clarify.

It's +5 to any skill no matter how much it costs, and you get +1 SP to use.


I thought that might be the case. So it potentially could be worth four levels if they have the attribute at the 3rd soft cap, but not necessarily.

Originally posted by herbdawg
Originally posted by coachjamest

Originally posted by CelticRaider


Originally posted by Voltron



LMFAO I guess that might be Go Waves

Yea, nothing like 4 levels of SP to gurantee you a win even if you wouldn't win it normally.

Further evidence of Voltron's faggotry. I like it much better when you are sucking on your pacifier and not crying this much you fucking baby.

Yeah I've never been a part of the anti-Voltron bandwagon but lately we've seen an awful lot of crying from him. Is he becoming the T.O. of Southeast Asia?



Go Wave Voltron ok thanx

Originally posted by Moebuis_34
Originally posted by elDizzle

Originally posted by eaglesfan20


well i personally like the addition as it puts in that unexpected quality that any team can beat any other team during any game
its not just i know i am better than this team - we will win -


Isn't that what the NFL is about? KC destroyed Denver a couple weeks ago...they must have boosted.

LOL.......I am a HUGE KC FAN........Can I spend my Flex Points to boost them all season?


Right on! Me too. Hence the KC part of my screen name.


As far as the temp boosts go, I like that they add another element of strategy to the game. Sure it's possible for a whole league to target one team. But I don't think it's likely enough to warrent eliminating the option. I'm sure it's hard enough to get a whole team (or enough of the team to make a profound difference) to do it, much less a whole conference. I sincerely doubt it would cost a top team a playoff berth. And at least they can't be used in the playoffs, so the team would be able to re-assert their dominance when it really counts.

I think that it would be better if the + 5 boost were not for an entire game. Maybe for a Quarter or a Half (Maybe even one that you can choose), that way the boost wears off and the stats reset to a pre-boost number. This might make it where the teams that in all honesty should win at least continue to keep that advantage for part of the game.

Originally posted by Voltron

Winning is cheap if you need a +5 boost to any stat.


We lost to you guys last year by 9 points WITHOUT the possibility of a temp boost, why is it so inconceivable that we could pull out a win this season WITHOUT using the temp boost?

IMO I think the Toys beat us. Not necessarily through coordinated boosts but from capitalizing on turnovers, as well as good gameplanning. But to assume no one had temp boosted is foolish. Maybe it was those key guys that caused the turnovers.

For the most part and in previous seasons a lot of the top teams were just a play away from getting the win. So hats off to those that do win and see you in the playoffs.

As Tracker says 8th seed is good enough for me.