I have contacted people who havent been voting, and they are still in... we should hopefully have votes in about game 5 to put up a leaderboard 
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Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by koleck
Why the fuck are you guys doing mvp voting 2 games into the season?
How about waiting until playoffs before voting on the mvp? That way it's a valid award given to the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER of the season.
Maybe you should read before you post! It is MVP of the season based on weekly voting by each team for each game.
Each individual game doesn't mean a damn thing. That means people get points for playing weak teams.
It should be an accumlation of the entire season and nothing else. Not points for each week that add up.
Originally posted by koleck
Why the fuck are you guys doing mvp voting 2 games into the season?
How about waiting until playoffs before voting on the mvp? That way it's a valid award given to the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER of the season.
Maybe you should read before you post! It is MVP of the season based on weekly voting by each team for each game.
Each individual game doesn't mean a damn thing. That means people get points for playing weak teams.
It should be an accumlation of the entire season and nothing else. Not points for each week that add up.
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Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
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Originally posted by Bluejays4ws
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
Last edited Sep 27, 2008 02:17:12
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Originally posted by koleck
Originally posted by Bluejays4ws
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
No. This isn't an NCAA Football Ranking. It's a mostly free online fantasy simulation. If you don't like it, don't participate. Your a douche man. It's not a real MVP award. Get over it.
Originally posted by Bluejays4ws
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
No. This isn't an NCAA Football Ranking. It's a mostly free online fantasy simulation. If you don't like it, don't participate. Your a douche man. It's not a real MVP award. Get over it.
Last edited Sep 27, 2008 02:21:32
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Originally posted by wahawk04
Originally posted by koleck
Originally posted by Bluejays4ws
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
No. This isn't an NCAA Football Ranking. It's a mostly free online fantasy simulation. If you don't like it, don't participate. Your a douche man. It's not a real MVP award. Get over it.
Why are the people in this game so sensitive?
I am right. This system sucks.
Originally posted by koleck
Originally posted by Bluejays4ws
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
No. This isn't an NCAA Football Ranking. It's a mostly free online fantasy simulation. If you don't like it, don't participate. Your a douche man. It's not a real MVP award. Get over it.
Why are the people in this game so sensitive?
I am right. This system sucks.
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Case in Point: In the first voting post placed in the MVP thread a guy voted for all Freetown players because they destroyed a team full of players in their teens.
After the final game of the regular season all team owners should be alotted 5 votes to rank their top 5 mvp choices. Those choices should at least somewhat reflect big playermakers for the successful teams instead of a system completely based on whoever is going against the lowest rated teams any given week. This is how any professional system works. It's the only way to select the right people for the awards. An mvp isn't just week-to-week stats.
That way the truly valuable players would get the most recognition instead of a points system where the weaker the teams you play the better you have a chance of winning the award.
A guy who throws for 230 and 2 touchdowns with no picks in a close game to lead his team to victory against a playoff caliber team should get the vote above a guy that runs for 600 yards one week due to playing a bunch of level 15's.
After the final game of the regular season all team owners should be alotted 5 votes to rank their top 5 mvp choices. Those choices should at least somewhat reflect big playermakers for the successful teams instead of a system completely based on whoever is going against the lowest rated teams any given week. This is how any professional system works. It's the only way to select the right people for the awards. An mvp isn't just week-to-week stats.
That way the truly valuable players would get the most recognition instead of a points system where the weaker the teams you play the better you have a chance of winning the award.
A guy who throws for 230 and 2 touchdowns with no picks in a close game to lead his team to victory against a playoff caliber team should get the vote above a guy that runs for 600 yards one week due to playing a bunch of level 15's.
Last edited Sep 27, 2008 02:48:45
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Originally posted by koleck
Originally posted by wahawk04
Originally posted by koleck
Originally posted by Bluejays4ws
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
No. This isn't an NCAA Football Ranking. It's a mostly free online fantasy simulation. If you don't like it, don't participate. Your a douche man. It's not a real MVP award. Get over it.
Why are the people in this game so sensitive?
I am right. This system sucks.
If you don't like it then don't do it there's no reason for you to sit here and try to knock us trying to add a little forum activity so you can stop being a douche about it any time now
Originally posted by wahawk04
Originally posted by koleck
Originally posted by Bluejays4ws
Ugh...just admit it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
If a player performs well the entire season...they'll get the votes week in week out! You get it?
Just like how the NFL hands out Player(s) Of The Week...the MVP will most likely win it 2 or 3 weeks in a season.
So going against a team you outlevel a ton and killing them and running up your stats to get yourself high voting for that week isn't fucked up?
An MVP voting isn't a point system dumbass. What is this, the NCAA football rankings?
And no, the difference with the NFL player of the week is that it doesn't end up determining who the mvp of that season is. Imagine if the NFL did that. You would have random ass guys as the mvp each year. It would be a joke.
Kind of like this.
If the NBA did that, for instance, Brando Roy would have been the MVP of the nba even though the Blazers didn't even make it to the playoffs.
Horrible system.
No. This isn't an NCAA Football Ranking. It's a mostly free online fantasy simulation. If you don't like it, don't participate. Your a douche man. It's not a real MVP award. Get over it.
Why are the people in this game so sensitive?
I am right. This system sucks.
If you don't like it then don't do it there's no reason for you to sit here and try to knock us trying to add a little forum activity so you can stop being a douche about it any time now
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Or you can read my suggestions and admit they're better instead of being a jackass. I'm coming to find most of the people in these forums are morons.
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Originally posted by koleck
Case in Point: In the first voting post placed in the MVP thread a guy voted for all Freetown players because they destroyed a team full of players in their teens.
After the final game of the regular season all team owners should be alotted 5 votes to rank their top 5 mvp choices. Those choices should at least somewhat reflect big playermakers for the successful teams instead of a system completely based on whoever is going against the lowest rated teams any given week. This is how any professional system works. It's the only way to select the right people for the awards. An mvp isn't just week-to-week stats.
That way the truly valuable players would get the most recognition instead of a points system where the weaker the teams you play the better you have a chance of winning the award.
A guy who throws for 230 and 2 touchdowns with no picks in a close game to lead his team to victory against a playoff caliber team should get the vote above a guy that runs for 600 yards one week due to playing a bunch of level 15's.
And of the day every team plays the gutted teams so they all get a chance to get a heap of votes there... I don't see the point in your complaint in the system we are running.
Im sure the top players will get the most votes in the end... sure some will get off to a fast start due to playing gutted teams early, but everyones turn will come... it will prob come down to how well players play against the hard opposition anyway
If people arent happy with the system I suggested I don't mind... it takes a bit of time to organize anyway... and I have one of the gutted teams so I have nothin to gain as my players won't get heaps of votes anyway... I just thought it would be fun to do, and give our forum something to talk about once a leaderboard is up and going... so if there is a better system by all means get it started
Case in Point: In the first voting post placed in the MVP thread a guy voted for all Freetown players because they destroyed a team full of players in their teens.
After the final game of the regular season all team owners should be alotted 5 votes to rank their top 5 mvp choices. Those choices should at least somewhat reflect big playermakers for the successful teams instead of a system completely based on whoever is going against the lowest rated teams any given week. This is how any professional system works. It's the only way to select the right people for the awards. An mvp isn't just week-to-week stats.
That way the truly valuable players would get the most recognition instead of a points system where the weaker the teams you play the better you have a chance of winning the award.
A guy who throws for 230 and 2 touchdowns with no picks in a close game to lead his team to victory against a playoff caliber team should get the vote above a guy that runs for 600 yards one week due to playing a bunch of level 15's.
And of the day every team plays the gutted teams so they all get a chance to get a heap of votes there... I don't see the point in your complaint in the system we are running.
Im sure the top players will get the most votes in the end... sure some will get off to a fast start due to playing gutted teams early, but everyones turn will come... it will prob come down to how well players play against the hard opposition anyway
If people arent happy with the system I suggested I don't mind... it takes a bit of time to organize anyway... and I have one of the gutted teams so I have nothin to gain as my players won't get heaps of votes anyway... I just thought it would be fun to do, and give our forum something to talk about once a leaderboard is up and going... so if there is a better system by all means get it started
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Originally posted by balony_pony16
Originally posted by koleck
Case in Point: In the first voting post placed in the MVP thread a guy voted for all Freetown players because they destroyed a team full of players in their teens.
After the final game of the regular season all team owners should be alotted 5 votes to rank their top 5 mvp choices. Those choices should at least somewhat reflect big playermakers for the successful teams instead of a system completely based on whoever is going against the lowest rated teams any given week. This is how any professional system works. It's the only way to select the right people for the awards. An mvp isn't just week-to-week stats.
That way the truly valuable players would get the most recognition instead of a points system where the weaker the teams you play the better you have a chance of winning the award.
A guy who throws for 230 and 2 touchdowns with no picks in a close game to lead his team to victory against a playoff caliber team should get the vote above a guy that runs for 600 yards one week due to playing a bunch of level 15's.
And of the day every team plays the gutted teams so they all get a chance to get a heap of votes there... I don't see the point in your complaint in the system we are running.
Im sure the top players will get the most votes in the end... sure some will get off to a fast start due to playing gutted teams early, but everyones turn will come... it will prob come down to how well players play against the hard opposition anyway
If people arent happy with the system I suggested I don't mind... it takes a bit of time to organize anyway... and I have one of the gutted teams so I have nothin to gain as my players won't get heaps of votes anyway... I just thought it would be fun to do, and give our forum something to talk about once a leaderboard is up and going... so if there is a better system by all means get it started
Either way, people are receiving the most votes when playing gutted teams. That means the performances that really matter aren't gaining that much consideration.
My suggestion would be to take the system I stated above and use something along those lines for an end of the season MVP award.
But your system is good for Offensive and Defensive players of the year. Those awards are much more stat-based in real life anyways, and I think that system does well for an offensive and defensive player of the year by year's end.
And once the regular season is over, the owners (And gm's as well, depending on what the league would prefer) act as a panel of voters to determine the overall league mvp based on different criteria - Including quality of play against high caliber teams, statistical numbers in important situations, how clutch the player was, and how key they were to their team's success (IE Big games against gutted teams don't factor in much. That's like giving the heisman to a player for scoring 5 touchdowns against middle tennessee state).
That way forum activity is promoted across the league during the season by way of the offensive and defensive players of the year award voting, and at the same time we have an end of the season award to hand out to the overall most valuable player in the league.
Originally posted by koleck
Case in Point: In the first voting post placed in the MVP thread a guy voted for all Freetown players because they destroyed a team full of players in their teens.
After the final game of the regular season all team owners should be alotted 5 votes to rank their top 5 mvp choices. Those choices should at least somewhat reflect big playermakers for the successful teams instead of a system completely based on whoever is going against the lowest rated teams any given week. This is how any professional system works. It's the only way to select the right people for the awards. An mvp isn't just week-to-week stats.
That way the truly valuable players would get the most recognition instead of a points system where the weaker the teams you play the better you have a chance of winning the award.
A guy who throws for 230 and 2 touchdowns with no picks in a close game to lead his team to victory against a playoff caliber team should get the vote above a guy that runs for 600 yards one week due to playing a bunch of level 15's.
And of the day every team plays the gutted teams so they all get a chance to get a heap of votes there... I don't see the point in your complaint in the system we are running.
Im sure the top players will get the most votes in the end... sure some will get off to a fast start due to playing gutted teams early, but everyones turn will come... it will prob come down to how well players play against the hard opposition anyway
If people arent happy with the system I suggested I don't mind... it takes a bit of time to organize anyway... and I have one of the gutted teams so I have nothin to gain as my players won't get heaps of votes anyway... I just thought it would be fun to do, and give our forum something to talk about once a leaderboard is up and going... so if there is a better system by all means get it started
Either way, people are receiving the most votes when playing gutted teams. That means the performances that really matter aren't gaining that much consideration.
My suggestion would be to take the system I stated above and use something along those lines for an end of the season MVP award.
But your system is good for Offensive and Defensive players of the year. Those awards are much more stat-based in real life anyways, and I think that system does well for an offensive and defensive player of the year by year's end.
And once the regular season is over, the owners (And gm's as well, depending on what the league would prefer) act as a panel of voters to determine the overall league mvp based on different criteria - Including quality of play against high caliber teams, statistical numbers in important situations, how clutch the player was, and how key they were to their team's success (IE Big games against gutted teams don't factor in much. That's like giving the heisman to a player for scoring 5 touchdowns against middle tennessee state).
That way forum activity is promoted across the league during the season by way of the offensive and defensive players of the year award voting, and at the same time we have an end of the season award to hand out to the overall most valuable player in the league.
Last edited Sep 27, 2008 03:49:27
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I like your idea, but considering how hard it is to get people to vote from even their own games... imagine how hard it will be to get everyone to watch all games so they keep and eye on all the top players preformances?
I am happy to do what we are doing and see the results... it may turn out alright, or we could have a vote at the end with a case put forward for the main top players, such as their form against the top teams.
I still think that every player will get the same opportunities to play against all teams so it is all even in the end... playing gutted teams doesn't matter as everyone gets to play them
I am happy to do what we are doing and see the results... it may turn out alright, or we could have a vote at the end with a case put forward for the main top players, such as their form against the top teams.
I still think that every player will get the same opportunities to play against all teams so it is all even in the end... playing gutted teams doesn't matter as everyone gets to play them
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Koleck, you DO realize that these guys CAN take into account that they are PLAYING the gutted team right?
OH you ran for 150 vs the wildcats while he ran for 280 vs the gutted team? both get one vote but in the end we still think the guy that ran for 150 vs the wildcats did the best.
Being human beings we all have that ability to make DECISIONS that MIGHT be difficult to judge. Or at least i thought we all had that ability. It seems you dont so im letting you know that EVERYONE ELSE in the world can.
So i IMPLORE you..dont get involved, because you obviously do not have the ability to make those kind of decisions where one involves a gutted team.
OH you ran for 150 vs the wildcats while he ran for 280 vs the gutted team? both get one vote but in the end we still think the guy that ran for 150 vs the wildcats did the best.
Being human beings we all have that ability to make DECISIONS that MIGHT be difficult to judge. Or at least i thought we all had that ability. It seems you dont so im letting you know that EVERYONE ELSE in the world can.
So i IMPLORE you..dont get involved, because you obviously do not have the ability to make those kind of decisions where one involves a gutted team.
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Originally posted by trazer
Koleck, you DO realize that these guys CAN take into account that they are PLAYING the gutted team right?
OH you ran for 150 vs the wildcats while he ran for 280 vs the gutted team? both get one vote but in the end we still think the guy that ran for 150 vs the wildcats did the best.
Being human beings we all have that ability to make DECISIONS that MIGHT be difficult to judge. Or at least i thought we all had that ability. It seems you dont so im letting you know that EVERYONE ELSE in the world can.
So i IMPLORE you..dont get involved, because you obviously do not have the ability to make those kind of decisions where one involves a gutted team.
Jesus Christ people don't listen. As I said, the first votes cast in the MVP thread were for 5 players from a team playing against a gutted team.
Honestly, just stfu.
Koleck, you DO realize that these guys CAN take into account that they are PLAYING the gutted team right?
OH you ran for 150 vs the wildcats while he ran for 280 vs the gutted team? both get one vote but in the end we still think the guy that ran for 150 vs the wildcats did the best.
Being human beings we all have that ability to make DECISIONS that MIGHT be difficult to judge. Or at least i thought we all had that ability. It seems you dont so im letting you know that EVERYONE ELSE in the world can.
So i IMPLORE you..dont get involved, because you obviously do not have the ability to make those kind of decisions where one involves a gutted team.
Jesus Christ people don't listen. As I said, the first votes cast in the MVP thread were for 5 players from a team playing against a gutted team.
Honestly, just stfu.
Last edited Sep 27, 2008 07:40:58
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Originally posted by koleck
Jesus Christ people don't listen. As I said, the first votes cast in the MVP thread were for 5 players from a team playing against a gutted team.
Honestly, just stfu.
No shit mate... and guess what? the next team to play that gutted team will prob get 5 players with votes...what is your point?
Everyone plays the gutted teams!... but you are carrying on like some people have a advantage, but it should be clear that everyone plays the same teams and thus has equal opportunities to get votes.
It is pretty damm simple!
Jesus Christ people don't listen. As I said, the first votes cast in the MVP thread were for 5 players from a team playing against a gutted team.
Honestly, just stfu.
No shit mate... and guess what? the next team to play that gutted team will prob get 5 players with votes...what is your point?
Everyone plays the gutted teams!... but you are carrying on like some people have a advantage, but it should be clear that everyone plays the same teams and thus has equal opportunities to get votes.
It is pretty damm simple!
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