Originally posted by tyante
Originally posted by austin8214
Originally posted by tyante
It also doesn't count a sack when a DE hits the QB and causes a fumble. It should be counted as both a sack and forced fumble.
Actually it would just a forced fumble. Because the fumble occurs before the QB goes down therefore it cannot be a sack too.
Check your rules again. Hitting the QB and causing a fumble counts as both a sack and forced fumble.
Seems you are correct here is a response to an email I sent to someone I know that does official stats for a NFL team.
Assuming that the QB went back to pass (meaning that the play's "initial intention" was pass), then it is indeed a sack and fumble. And... it does not matter who recovers.
A QB does not need to be physically tackled in order for a sack to be charged. If he goes back to pass... is flushed out and runs out of bounds (for a loss of yardage) without being touched... it's still a sack.
On the contrary, just because a QB is tackled behind the line of scrimmage, it's not necessarily a sack... it must be an intended pass play.
You say "forced fumble". I think you meant just fumble. A fumble forced is simply a stat given to the defender that forced the fumble. Sometimes there is no forced fumble given because, QB could drop ball or one of his own players could cause the fumble.
Also, a fumbled snap is not a sack. It's considered an "aborted play".
Originally posted by austin8214
Originally posted by tyante
It also doesn't count a sack when a DE hits the QB and causes a fumble. It should be counted as both a sack and forced fumble.
Actually it would just a forced fumble. Because the fumble occurs before the QB goes down therefore it cannot be a sack too.
Check your rules again. Hitting the QB and causing a fumble counts as both a sack and forced fumble.
Seems you are correct here is a response to an email I sent to someone I know that does official stats for a NFL team.
Assuming that the QB went back to pass (meaning that the play's "initial intention" was pass), then it is indeed a sack and fumble. And... it does not matter who recovers.
A QB does not need to be physically tackled in order for a sack to be charged. If he goes back to pass... is flushed out and runs out of bounds (for a loss of yardage) without being touched... it's still a sack.
On the contrary, just because a QB is tackled behind the line of scrimmage, it's not necessarily a sack... it must be an intended pass play.
You say "forced fumble". I think you meant just fumble. A fumble forced is simply a stat given to the defender that forced the fumble. Sometimes there is no forced fumble given because, QB could drop ball or one of his own players could cause the fumble.
Also, a fumbled snap is not a sack. It's considered an "aborted play".
. A Forced Fumble from a Sack still registers as a Sack. Even though the Play-by-play won't have "sacked by" in the line, whoever did the sack/FFUM will get credited with a Sack (and a FFUM, obviously).
