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Originally posted by Monty Burns
and I think 19.2 is also correct, from my reading....

No

Those were estimated examples based off the stat yielding 60% at current normal train.

Originally posted by Meatdawg
Using your example, you could substitute like so:

--intense = +12%
--hard workout = +9% +1 bonus token
--medium workout = +6% + 2 bonus tokens
--light workout = +3% + 3 bonus tokens

So the BTs aren't really that plentiful if you still want good training yield.

Unless you unlock the enhanced training.

Which costs BTs.

So the multiple attribute training is where it's at, cuz you get intense value and BTs.

Tricky, I can see why people are intimidated by it in this non-UI form.

I love popcorn

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
So the BTs aren't really that plentiful if you still want good training yield.

Unless you unlock the enhanced training.

Which costs BTs.

So the multiple attribute training is where it's at, cuz you get intense value and BTs.

Tricky, I can see why people are intimidated by it in this non-UI form.

Yep, and you want to take BT in with you, to unlock these abilities ASAP.

Catch if you get a second:

1. what level does a player have to be in order to see a +3 attribute 5% suffix assuming just regular shopping?
2. are +SA advanced just the end tree SAs?
3. When you swap an extra SA, I'm assuming your skill points are not lost, but merely transferred into new extra SA?

Originally posted by Monty Burns
SA Basic = skill tree items 1-3
SA Adv = skill tree 4-5
any SA inc extra SA = any non skill tree SA including your extra Archetype SA

I think....

and I think 19.2 is also correct, from my reading....

Thanks

Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
Catch if you get a second:

1. what level does a player have to be in order to see a +3 attribute 5% suffix assuming just regular shopping?
2. are +SA advanced just the end tree SAs?
3. When you swap an extra SA, I'm assuming your skill points are not lost, but merely transferred into new extra SA?



#1 - no clue. I think I've seen those pieces around level 32 or so before. Don't know exact number though.

#2 - basically, yes

#3 - no skill points aren't lost, they are transferred. Cost of course scales based on how many points you have in the SA.

Ok, upon further inspection, I don't understand the unlocking of attributes thing. Say I want to make the following combos:

Spd/Agility
Agility/Tackling
Tackling/Vision
Stam/Conf

What's my cost to get this set up under the new system? Notice each one's just a pair trained together.

Originally posted by kurieg
Ok, upon further inspection, I don't understand the unlocking of attributes thing. Say I want to make the following combos:

Spd/Agility
Agility/Tackling
Tackling/Vision
Stam/Conf

What's my cost to get this set up under the new system? Notice each one's just a pair trained together.

If this guy is lost how the heck do they ever think we will be able to begin to understand?

Sound like a ton of fun

Originally posted by Catch22
AEQ and Enhanced Shopping

AEQ will cost bonus tokens, ranging from 1 bonus token (most basic item) to 20 bonus tokens (most advanced item). AEQ will cost 24 bonus tokens to upgrade every 8 levels. To shop in the AEQ store, you will need to use a shopping token. If you wish to enhance your shopping, you can do the following by spending additional bonus tokens on the AEQ store page:

3 bonus tokens = 1 additional item in the store
5 bonus tokens = 2 additional items in the store
10 bonus tokens = 4 additional items in the store and items do not delete after purchasing

Is purchasing these permanent or just for one AEQ store roll?

Originally posted by bobcat713
Oh sure. Just log on and hit "train". But first, stop and think a moment.

Do I want to train 2 atts or 3? Hey! I've got enough BTs to unlock stamina, then I could train 4. Oops, I don't have enough training points for that. So maybe I could enhance speed to the third level. Wait a minute, if I train on light for 3 more days I'll have enough BTs for that piece of AEQ I want. Or, I could just use them all for sps, that would give me enough to cap agility.

No UI, no matter how sophisticated, is going to make those decisions for you. Good luck figuring it out yourself.

This system is a byzantine trade-off between spending BTs for training, aeq, and skill points and is at least 2 orders of magnitude more complicated than the old system, which was complicated enough. And it would be nice if the admins didn't insult our intelligence by saying it's really not that complicated.+1

I'm still sort of sad that i have to stop playing this game now. oh well, it isn't what i'm looking for anymore. i'm sure i'm not a lone but i'm sure a lot of people will give it a chance.

it would be nice if it was possible to grandfather people so that they don't have to live through these changes after spending so much time and money on a completely different system that they actually did have interest in.

I still think these changes are stupid and a waste of time. Perhaps I'm just being ignorant and not understanding these changes like the Admins had hoped I would, or the rest of the GLB world. I used to enjoy playing this game-turned-mathematical-job. I'm sorry, but I use GLB to get away from the real world as so many other users do. This is just bringing me closer to it.

Originally posted by kurieg
Ok, upon further inspection, I don't understand the unlocking of attributes thing. Say I want to make the following combos:

Spd/Agility
Agility/Tackling
Tackling/Vision
Stam/Conf

What's my cost to get this set up under the new system? Notice each one's just a pair trained together.

First one - 5 BT's to unlock agility
Second one - nothing since you unlocked agility
Third one - 10 BT's to unlock one of the two
Fourth one - 15 BT's to unlock one of the two

30 total. You'll be able to train all the ones you unlocked in any combination afterwards.

Originally posted by Mitch54
I still think these changes are stupid and a waste of time. Perhaps I'm just being ignorant and not understanding these changes like the Admins had hoped I would, or the rest of the GLB world. I used to enjoy playing this game-turned-mathematical-job. I'm sorry, but I use GLB to get away from the real world as so many other users do. This is just bringing me closer to it.

Someone is ignorant but I don't think you are