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Originally posted by WarHammer2015
We are also looking at this at high heat.. wonder how things will look once the temperatures cool? Should we have gatorade ability to fend off the heat?


true, it's 102 degrees in this bitch right now. Just imagine how bad guys will be looking when the snow hits.
 
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Wish they would send emails out to accounts announcing new changes.

If they sent an email out that just summed up the last 3 seasons (I think) -

- play knowledge
- conditioning nerf
- quickness tied to acceleration
-etc
whatever else

Might get some of those agents back who left with still a good chunk of flex who would try it out again.

Of course - would be better to do that 3 days ago so they could still make players/teams easily - but hey whatever we can do
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
true, it's 102 degrees in this bitch right now. Just imagine how bad guys will be looking when the snow hits.


Morale will be awful, and speed builds will be affected greatly. Going to be fun

Also, the value of High Contracts has suddenly shot up in my opinion.

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Just when I thought I was on to something with this game.. oh well as said before, we are all in the same rudderless boat with no paddle..
 
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man corndog, at least you could throw together a couple new offense plays for us poor souls to have fun with. maybe a couple new runs out of diamond formation or something?

- HB counter Strong
- HB Slam Weak
- HB Off Tackle Weak
- FB Strong Dive
- FB Off Tackle Weak/Strong

Come on those have to be somewhat simple as most of them are already coded one way and the formation is mirrored.

 
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Originally posted by bhall43
man corndog, at least you could throw together a couple new offense plays for us poor souls to have fun with. maybe a couple new runs out of diamond formation or something?

- HB counter Strong
- HB Slam Weak
- HB Off Tackle Weak
- FB Strong Dive
- FB Off Tackle Weak/Strong

Come on those have to be somewhat simple as most of them are already coded one way and the formation is mirrored.



What they should do is mirror some of the defensive plays.
 
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Originally posted by Detroit Leos
What they should do is mirror some of the defensive plays.


hey im all for that too. though i believe those will actually need some minor testing considering they work different strong vs. weak side. the diamond stuff would all be relatively simple it seems.
 
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Originally posted by Xars
For what it's worth after just a few games:

You need Depth.
You need high Conditioning still with that Depth.

You still need 65+ Conditioning for most positions.
You also need backups.


That's great with a 43 roster limit and a salary cap not designed for that.
 
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Originally posted by Detroit Leos
What they should do is mirror some of the defensive plays.


has anyone done an analysis of whether freedom to choose your own passing progression had any significant effect on offensive passing?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
hey im all for that too. though i believe those will actually need some minor testing considering they work different strong vs. weak side. the diamond stuff would all be relatively simple it seems.


I agree. Certainly blitzes from the strong side would not work as well which is fine but defenses are in desperate need of some more diversity with their PBs. I know my offensive PB is essentially loaded up with all sorts of plays while defenses still only have 1-2 plays that are reliable for the different situations that DCs try to tag them for. Then there is the tagging issue itself which also handcuffs them. Plays themselves need a tagging shake up which would also allow defenses to have a little bit more control.
 
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Originally posted by Mysterio
Sure its more realistic; but NO warning was given and now teams like mine are screwed with the season starting tomorrow and no time to adjust. Massive changes like this should be PHASED IN and TESTED BEFOREHAND, not slapped together like a college kid writing a last minute term paper


Amen.

Even better for brand new rookie teams like Whoville who spent all of last season planning builds and assembling agents and the entire plan is now thrown to shit.

Excitement with the new team just went from extremely high to shit. Fun(TM)
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve
has anyone done an analysis of whether freedom to choose your own passing progression had any significant effect on offensive passing?


I played with it a little bit initially. IMO it is still best to have the TE or BTE as the first read just so they are forced to release and your you get an additional receiver down field reliably. I do have some alternate reads that fire on occasion for BSB currently but since some of the plays are the same it hinders statistical analysis. I also found that your #1 read more often than not does not necessarily get the target. For many plays you want your go-to read to be #2 or #3 on the progression. This could make some plays viable but I did not play with it enough to unearth any "gems" if any do in fact exist.
 
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
Amen.

Even better for brand new rookie teams like Whoville who spent all of last season planning builds and assembling agents and the entire plan is now thrown to shit.

Excitement with the new team just went from extremely high to shit. Fun(TM)


Easy enough to make some quick adjustments if you are in rookie though. JMan BSB not only has one HB but the guy is not even a S* HB! LOL. We just took a sledge hammer to the face and somehow I still believe that we will be alright by the end of the season.
 
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
Amen.

Even better for brand new rookie teams like Whoville who spent all of last season planning builds and assembling agents and the entire plan is now thrown to shit.

Excitement with the new team just went from extremely high to shit. Fun(TM)


on the bright side though you guys could retire and rebuild today if need be and not be totally screwed. i know, tough with all sorts of different agents, but something to think about with the guys around today.

i think the teams we just formed by skipping rookie will be alright because its focused extreme on conditioning/toughness/heart skills and not so much speed, speed, speed. but damn we put in a lot of effort to get these teams together in sophomore and now this change has really made us rethink our team formation.
 
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Originally posted by Detroit Leos
Easy enough to make some quick adjustments if you are in rookie though.


Originally posted by bhall43
on the bright side though you guys could retire and rebuild today if need be and not be totally screwed. i know, tough with all sorts of different agents, but something to think about with the guys around today.


Not easy at all.

As bhall said, coordinating a bunch of agents on short notice is impossible (at Whoville, we try to build a team of multiple agents, not 1-3 agents running all the dots). It took me most of the already extended offseason to get the roster set, even with a season of advanced planning. It simply can't be done at this point. Because of lazy devs that announce changes last minute.

Also, we have 9 S*s on the roster right now. We have played scrims. We try to reboot on no notice and we have 0 S*s because we lose all the points we saved up. Because of scrims.


Originally posted by bhall43
i think the teams we just formed by skipping rookie will be alright because its focused extreme on conditioning/toughness/heart skills and not so much speed, speed, speed. but damn we put in a lot of effort to get these teams together in sophomore and now this change has really made us rethink our team formation.


Luckily, we are relatively heavy on conditioning, toughness, consistency and with what would have been normal heart before gravitation. Luckily I got that right. However, if depth is a hard coded requirement in the game now vs something you can dictate with skill choices, I also have a 33 man roster. Unfortunately, I got that very, very wrong.

And yeah, I also put in a lot of effort to get this team together.
 
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