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Originally posted by foshizzel17
ive never heard of it. but i googled it and


seems like something old people play at the moose lodge


It's like poker night for women...

Except it follows a set schedule and occurs way more often.
 
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Saw my first fully dissected cadaver on a tour today. Seen some college ones but they're done autopsy style with covered heads. Good lord med students hack theirs up. All limbs detached and fully cut, crown taken off with the brain in a bowl next to it, eyes off somewhere else, head cut clean in two from forehead to chin, etc.

Side note- I think I'm about ready as far as that part of med school, Im eating a burrito while typing about it
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
Saw my first fully dissected cadaver on a tour today. Seen some college ones but they're done autopsy style with covered heads. Good lord med students hack theirs up. All limbs detached and fully cut, crown taken off with the brain in a bowl next to it, eyes off somewhere else, head cut clean in two from forehead to chin, etc.

Side note- I think I'm about ready as far as that part of med school, Im eating a burrito while typing about it


Have fun watching someone die
 
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Originally posted by blackdog3377
Have fun watching someone die


Seen it. It was awful and I almost threw up. I wasn't dissuaded.

Seeing someone die is very different from hacking a body up in a way that, out of context, would suggest a psychopath was on the loose.
 
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just about everyone I know went home for easter weekend

LOOKS LIKE IM DRINKING BEER AND PLAYING CALL OF DUTY

 
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Originally posted by rams78110
Seen it. It was awful and I almost threw up. I wasn't dissuaded.

Seeing someone die is very different from hacking a body up in a way that, out of context, would suggest a psychopath was on the loose.


Thats why I said that. Its a lot easier to deal with a corpse than to watch someone die, especially someone you are trying to save.
 
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Originally posted by blackdog3377
Thats why I said that. Its a lot easier to deal with a corpse than to watch someone die, especially someone you are trying to save.


Have not had that particular experience yet. Don't ever want to. But I'd be a fool not to expect/prepare for it.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
Have not had that particular experience yet. Don't ever want to. But I'd be a fool not to expect/prepare for it.


Its definitely not fun. Probably one of the most traumatic experiences you can have as a health care provider.
 
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Since this thread is about doctors at the moment...

How do doctors continue seeing people as people? After years of taking people apart and putting them back together, shifting around the wiring, etc, how can you look at a person as a person and not just a thing?

Same with plastic surgeons. I can't imagine cutting someones face and peeling it off, then stitching it back on...how could you look at that person the same again?

I guess it's somewhat comparable to programming a game. Looking at the backend and messing with the code kind of gets rid of the "magical" feeling of that game. Except, it's a game and not human.
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Good question. I've not had remotely enough experience but at least in the case of the cadavers, they don't even look human so there's no issue there. The brain does not register that as a person. I'd like an answer on that last part actually, that's definitely something I'd like to pose to a doctor the next time I have a chance.

The analogy is probably bad but in addition to the game designer, a mechanic still views a car as a whole separate thing from just the parts in it. Maybe something along those lines
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Since this thread is about doctors at the moment...

How do doctors continue seeing people as people? After years of taking people apart and putting them back together, shifting around the wiring, etc, how can you look at a person as a person and not just a thing?

Same with plastic surgeons. I can't imagine cutting someones face and peeling it off, then stitching it back on...how could you look at that person the same again?

I guess it's somewhat comparable to programming a game. Looking at the backend and messing with the code kind of gets rid of the "magical" feeling of that game. Except, it's a game and not human.



I'm not a doctor, but I think the answer is:

It works better if they temporarily forget that there are "people" involved. So long as a wonky blood vessil is just a "bad wire", they're able to keep their cool and stay focused on the task at hand.
Edited by Larry Roadgrader on Apr 19, 2014 00:52:09
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Since this thread is about doctors at the moment...

How do doctors continue seeing people as people? After years of taking people apart and putting them back together, shifting around the wiring, etc, how can you look at a person as a person and not just a thing?

Same with plastic surgeons. I can't imagine cutting someones face and peeling it off, then stitching it back on...how could you look at that person the same again?

I guess it's somewhat comparable to programming a game. Looking at the backend and messing with the code kind of gets rid of the "magical" feeling of that game. Except, it's a game and not human.


There's a reason so many people think of doctors as being callous. You have to build a wall for yourself because if you see so much messed up stuff if you take it home with you, you won't last. I don't work directly in the medical field and I'm not a doctor but its a similar mindset. The patients I deal with and the stories I hear every day are so heart wrenching that if I wasn't able to leave that at work I would be a mess. There's a reason doctors have one of the highest suicide rates for any profession.
 
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So, they found this body of an early 20's, female college student wash up in a local park. The news station that did the article interviewed one of the head police guys on the case. The guy said something along the lines of, "It's not as safe going to the park at night." This created an uproar and an article to be written in a blog (then passed around social media) about victim blaming. The news station actually wrote an apology about it... for something that the person they interviewed actually said.

Autopsy comes back and it's discovered that the cause of death was accidental drowning. What led to the accidental drowning? Being at the park at night.
 
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The uproar about "victim blaming" is stupid and dangerous. No one's saying you deserve whatever happens to you in those situations, but denying that you should be aware of your surroundings and minimize your risk is abhorrent.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
The uproar about "victim blaming" is stupid and dangerous. No one's saying you deserve whatever happens to you in those situations, but denying that you should be aware of your surroundings and minimize your risk is abhorrent.


There's some people that don't believe in a thing called "personal responsibility".
 
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