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Originally posted by jdbolick

Ok, you made a huge leap that needs to be highlighted. You started out talking about school admissions, which you may be correct about, but then applied it to employers which you are unquestionably wrong about. Employers don't want to see cutesy, unique shit. They want you to have conventionally applicable training.


exactly. it doesn't matter if a potential employer remembers you, as he put it. 'hey, you guys remember the applicant who had the marketing degree with the the classic literature minor? yeah, so he made me a great sandwich the other day'
you want them to notice something different, yes, but something different that they can use

Originally posted by jdbolick

Ok, you made a huge leap that needs to be highlighted. You started out talking about school admissions, which you may be correct about, but then applied it to employers which you are unquestionably wrong about. Employers don't want to see cutesy, unique shit. They want you to have conventionally applicable training.


That's really not true at all. They want you to have the core requirements, you don't make the short-list without them. After that, they want someone that they want to work with. At that point, they start to consider the other interests.

Originally posted by Time Trial
That's really not true at all. They want you to have the core requirements, you don't make the short-list without them. After that, they want someone that they want to work with. At that point, they start to consider the other interests.

For instance, getting the top marks in your class might be good enough for some employers, but for a lot of them, that just gets you an interview. No one wants to hire the smartest person in the room if they aren't also the kind of person that you would want in the room for drinks on Friday when you talk about your week.

If the job they are hiring for means you are going to work with a bunch of meek people who just show up, work hard, and then call it a day at 5:00, they aren't going to throw in someone who is brilliant and socially dynamic. That's the wrong kind of person for the job.

Being qualified opens up opportunity/attitude and personability gets you the job.

Or just know someone, or know someone that knows someone that knows someone that knows someone

Originally posted by lVlellovv
Being qualified opens up opportunity/attitude and personability gets you the job.

Or just know someone, or know someone that knows someone that knows someone that knows someone

That only gets you a chance. Unless that person knows someone really important and a favour is called in. That gets you damn good chance.

Well you probably wouldnt get recommended if youre just a slap dick

Just dont be an arrogant douchebag and everything will be okay

A chance is all you can ask for.

Originally posted by Time Trial
That's really not true at all. They want you to have the core requirements, you don't make the short-list without them. After that, they want someone that they want to work with. At that point, they start to consider the other interests.
Employers aren't going to hire art majors because they seemed really nice. Businesses hire people with experience and/or pieces of paper indicating training in applicable skills. When choosing between applicants with relevant experience/degrees, then sure, attitude matters a lot. That wasn't the question, though.

Originally posted by seths99
you missed my overall point: marketability. it's not that a minor (or a major) is worthless or not, the question is, can you market that?
in the case of the med student with an art minor, that art minor made him more marketable to a med school for the reasons you mention. in your case, I'd recommend contacting a few med school admissions departments first and seeing what they think of a philosophy minor.

If everyone's minor was based on the idea of failing to get a job for their major, this would be a very sad world.

To address everyone else questioning the philosophy thing, the admissions director for the CU-Denver Anschutz medical campus (a perennial top 5 primary care medical school) Dr. Ozzie Grenardo gave a nice lecture at my school last year where he actually extolled having minors like that, and singled out philosophy as one they were trying to get more people on. Philosophy minors in med school universally show higher ethics and interview scores.

Originally posted by rams78110
If everyone's minor was based on the idea of failing to get a job for their major, this would be a very sad world.

how did you get that from what I said?

Originally posted by jdbolick

Ok, you made a huge leap that needs to be highlighted. You started out talking about school admissions, which you may be correct about, but then applied it to employers which you are unquestionably wrong about. Employers don't want to see cutesy, unique shit. They want you to have conventionally applicable training.


Literally no one I have ever talked to in the medical field agrees with this. They will give you the training. They want to see a solid biology background and well-rounded applicants that have more diverse skills they can bring to the field. English minors excel in charting, transcribing, and communicating. Communications minors are a joke without some ridiculously intensive specialty. Art minors can think and picture shit like previously stated. Philosophy minors excel in ethics. Bio-chem minors know the stuff they're gunna be re-taught anyway.

Originally posted by seths99
how did you get that from what I said?

You seemed to be going towards saying you need to be marketable outside your field. If you weren't saying that it seems odd to bring up going to the political field with a polisci minor to a business major

I don't think you realized I was talking about admissions and employment in that post. You still need training outside med school when you first get to a hospital. Every one has their own rules, regulations, and procedures. They will still look at your undergrad and they will still look for stuff like that.

Originally posted by rams78110
You seemed to be going towards saying you need to be marketable outside your field. If you weren't saying that it seems odd to bring up going to the political field with a polisci minor to a business major

I see where the confusion was...yeah, I wasn't clear before. my overall point is that, just like a major, choice of a minor should be made based on if that minor will make you more marketable in any way, and not simply because you kinda like that subject. the philosophy thing makes sense the way you describe it, and I can see now how that would be a marketable in med school and beyond