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Originally posted by MontaviousX


Giving the richest man in the world unlimited access to our government files and allowing him to go unchecked while he’s able to literally shut departments down is terrifying and you should be upset as well


We've been over this. He doesn't have the authority to shut down anything. He merely reports to the people who can.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
You'll pardon me, but just NO. Further, J6 was an inside job--the doors to the capital were propped open.



Depends on which side of the Capitol you were on....The front doors def weren't open in any way. The back is a diff story.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
You'll pardon me, but just NO. Further, J6 was an inside job--the doors to the capital were propped open.



Agree to disagree on this. If you think the people who stormed the capital were all part of an "inside job", you need to reevaluate your sources.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
You'll pardon me, but just NO. Further, J6 was an inside job--the doors to the capital were propped open.


The bipartisan House committee that actually investigated all the evidence found otherwise (linking the report because I know none of this information ever penetrated the cult propaganda media bubble you live in):

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf
 
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Originally posted by atlbruce
The bipartisan House committee that actually investigated all the evidence found otherwise (linking the report because I know none of this information ever penetrated the cult propaganda media bubble you live in):

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf


☝️ How to identify if you are a mark to government propaganda.


 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
I've just got to ask, how does LESS Federal spending help Trump build up this supposedly "terrible fascist state" (my words, not yours)? You think there's an endless supply of "fascists" that are just jonesing to work for free?


Trump doesn't care about govt spending. He is using that as a front to justify gutting everything. He tripled the deficit during his presidency before. He doesn't give a shit about our finances. Why do you guys continue believing this man? He lies non stop.

 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
We've been over this. He doesn't have the authority to shut down anything. He merely reports to the people who can.


He doesn't legally have the authority but he definitely has the authority. Have you not been watching that lawsuit concerning DOGE?

 
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Originally posted by MizzouDizzle2
☝️ How to identify if you are a mark to government propaganda.


And that's how YOU identify that you've forfeited critical thinking and reason to become an authoritarian bootlicker.
https://tenor.com/view/bootlicker-boot-licker-bluelivesmatter-gif-22558166
 
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Originally posted by atlbruce
The bipartisan House committee that actually investigated all the evidence found otherwise (linking the report because I know none of this information ever penetrated the cult propaganda media bubble you live in):

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf


That "bi-partisan" committee is "bi-partisan" because Trump-hater Liz Cheney was on it, it right? The very same Liz Cheney that Biden's auto-pen pardoned, right?
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
We've been over this. He doesn't have the authority to shut down anything. He merely reports to the people who can.


YOU literally made a post that says DOGE took an entire committee down to 1 person

So, either he has the ability or he doesn’t. Which is it?
 
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Originally posted by MontaviousX

So, either he has the ability or he doesn’t. Which is it?


It will be whichever suits the point he's trying to make at the time. Neither intellectual consistency nor honesty has been a hallmark of conservatives/Republicans over the last five decades.
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
That "bi-partisan" committee is "bi-partisan" because Trump-hater Liz Cheney was on it, it right? The very same Liz Cheney that Biden's auto-pen pardoned, right?


And Adam Kinzinger; the only two Republicans with the integrity and courage to put their oath of office ahead of their party allegiance. And the pardon was wise and pre-emptive, because we all know Liz was high on Der Golfenfuhrer's to-do list. As opposed to, you know, behaving like a U.S. President and actually trying to make life better for Americans.
 
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Originally posted by MontaviousX
YOU literally made a post that says DOGE took an entire committee down to 1 person

So, either he has the ability or he doesn’t. Which is it?


Originally posted by atlbruce
It will be whichever suits the point he's trying to make at the time. Neither intellectual consistency nor honesty has been a hallmark of conservatives/Republicans over the last five decades.


You both are being simplistic--I've never claimed that DOGE was entering the keystrokes that cut/eliminated this or that. They are making the recommendations, the duly appointed officials are taking the actions.
 
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Originally posted by atlbruce
And Adam Kinzinger; the only two Republicans...


So you made my point, it was "bi partisan" because exactly TWO people with an (R) next to their name were on the committee.

Thank you for that.

 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
You both are being simplistic--I've never claimed that DOGE was entering the keystrokes that cut/eliminated this or that. They are making the recommendations, the duly appointed officials are taking the actions.


Seems kinda odd that his “recommendations” happen in a matter of days. Almost like the departments have no choice, or are being strong armed.
 
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