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Originally posted by Time Trial
Yup. Probably illegally downloads music, tv, games, etc. People don't have a right to control their digital property once they make it available, so if publishers want me to stop stealing their copyrighted works, they should stop publishing them.

Since I can't find larrys post and I'm assuming this is a "gotcha" directed at me...and I'm on my phone I'll respond to this.

Firstly...if you can't tell the difference between invasion of privacy and piracy of digital content then that says more about you than any "gotcha" to me.

Secondly...I haven't pirated anything in forever and scold people I know that do. So again...lolu

Originally posted by Time Trial
I'm a lawyer. I believe that you don't put anything in writing that don't want coming out. If I want to talk 'really' off the record with someone, I meet them in person. Yeah, there's a chance that someone's trying to bug you, but bugging a private conversation between someone and their lawyer is probably never going to be admissible and would very likely be actionable against the government.

If I "really" want to talk off the record with someone, I give my phone, wallet, and car to a friend and tell them to go have a night out on my card, the person I want to talk off the record with does the same, and then we take unidentifiable transportation to a separate location wearing clothes that disguise our distinguishing features.

That sounds paranoid, but it's basically what you're asking people to do.

Originally posted by Bushido Zin
If I "really" want to talk off the record with someone, I give my phone, wallet, and car to a friend and tell them to go have a night out on my card, the person I want to talk off the record with does the same, and then we take unidentifiable transportation to a separate location wearing clothes that disguise our distinguishing features.

That sounds paranoid, but it's basically what you're asking people to do.

Actually, I'm suggesting that if a naked picture of you can sell for $1,000,000, then you fucking take care not to have nude pictures around if you want to protect yourself.

I'm suggesting that if you have a lot to lose, you don't get to be careless. Guess what, maybe that means you don't take naked pictures of yourself? Maybe that means you don't let someone film you taking a dick in the face. Not because you shouldn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy, but because you live in a world with shitty people who are going to try and take things from you. And there are shitty people who will actively search for those stolen things and support those who stole them. And there are shitty people who are going to try and associate the two with whatever issue they might support, because when shitty people have an issue, everything that happens relates to that issue.

If a client were to ask me my legal advice about taking nudes, I would probably be remiss not to advise my clients about the risks. I would tell them that the theft would be criminal and would draw a civil claim, assuming that the person was caught and that they actually had assets to cover the loss.

Guess what, these people neither need nor deserve my sympathy. They aren't affected by the fact that I don't give a fuck that this happened to them. They aren't affected by the fact that you do give a fuck.

Originally posted by Corndog
Since I can't find larrys post and I'm assuming this is a "gotcha" directed at me...and I'm on my phone I'll respond to this.

Firstly...if you can't tell the difference between invasion of privacy and piracy of digital content then that says more about you than any "gotcha" to me.

Secondly...I haven't pirated anything in forever and scold people I know that do. So again...lolu

Ah, invasion of privacy isn't the issue. Privacy was already invaded. By looking at the pictures, you support the invasion of privacy. People who say that once content on the internet is available, it is okay for me to take that content are the problem.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Ah, invasion of privacy isn't the issue. Privacy was already invaded. By looking at the pictures, you support the invasion of privacy. People who say that once content on the internet is available, it is okay for me to take that content are the problem.

Except, not.

One was in a database that was supposed to be secured. The other was a link to an open file sharing system.

Yes, I believe masturbating furiously to the pictures is pretty sleazy. Stumbling upon them while on the internet, however, is not the heinous crime you're making it out to be.

Originally posted by Corndog
Since I can't find larrys post and I'm assuming this is a "gotcha" directed at me...and I'm on my phone I'll respond to this.

Firstly...if you can't tell the difference between invasion of privacy and piracy of digital content then that says more about you than any "gotcha" to me.

Secondly...I haven't pirated anything in forever and scold people I know that do. So again...lolu


Here's the meat of your words I was responding to:

Originally posted by Corndog
I mean, what annoys me the most is how people don't look at the whole picture.

What if they hacked a database to steal credit card information? It's the same thing except credit cards instead of boobs.

The fact that one is cool and the other is not depends on if it tickles your willy or not?



The bolded is what I was referring to--though you've changed your stance (slightly) over the years in regard to pirating, you're still not ready to label it to be the theft that it is--you wouldn't for example it label it the same black and white degree of crime that stealing credit card info or stealing nude pics. If I'm wrong in that regard, please correct me. If I'm not wrong in that regard, you're unwillingness to label pirating a clear crime really boils down to "if it tickles your willy or not", and therein lies the irony of your words.

Originally posted by Corndog
Since I can't find larrys post and I'm assuming this is a "gotcha" directed at me...and I'm on my phone I'll respond to this.

Firstly...if you can't tell the difference between invasion of privacy and piracy of digital content then that says more about you than any "gotcha" to me.

Secondly...I haven't pirated anything in forever and scold people I know that do. So again...lolu

I pirate anything that is over priced or not made available to me.

IE: NFL Streaming online of local games. There is no legal option to pay for an online streaming subscription that allows you to have access to Local games. They black out local games on Sunday Ticket online. So my only option is to buy cable tv again or illegally stream it.

Originally posted by Osmlol
I pirate anything that is over priced or not made available to me.



I do that with cars--I only steal the ones that are over priced or not made available to me.

Originally posted by Osmlol
So my only option is to buy cable tv again or illegally stream it.

Yeah, two viable options that literally thousands of people do. And then there's the third option that MILLIONS of people do which is DO WITHOUT IT if one can't afford to obtain it legally.

But hey, go ahead and continue to admit that you're a THIEF while pretending to teach the rest of us anything.

Originally posted by Corndog
Except, not.

One was in a database that was supposed to be secured. The other was a link to an open file sharing system.

Yes, I believe masturbating furiously to the pictures is pretty sleazy. Stumbling upon them while on the internet, however, is not the heinous crime you're making it out to be.

Right, except if people weren't looking for them, people would stop stealing them.

Robbing someone's house is wrong. Buying stuff that you know was probably stolen from someone's house is also wrong. Just because one is more wrong than the other, doesn't mean that both weren't wrong. If you continue to support the market for selling stolen goods, you continue to make stealing goods profitable.

Originally posted by Osmlol
I pirate anything that is over priced or not made available to me.

IE: NFL Streaming online of local games. There is no legal option to pay for an online streaming subscription that allows you to have access to Local games. They black out local games on Sunday Ticket online. So my only option is to buy cable tv again or illegally stream it.

I don't bother buying TVs at Best Buy because they are overpriced, that's why I buy them from the back of a van where they are only moderately priced.

I have a right to content, if people are charging a price for the content that I don't want to pay, I am entitled to illegally obtain that content for free.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Right, except if people weren't looking for them, people would stop stealing them.

Robbing someone's house is wrong. Buying stuff that you know was probably stolen from someone's house is also wrong. Just because one is more wrong than the other, doesn't mean that both weren't wrong. If you continue to support the market for selling stolen goods, you continue to make stealing goods profitable.

If buying knowingly stolen goods was as simple as clicking a nondescrip link posted on a forum, yes.

Originally posted by Corndog
If buying knowingly stolen goods was as simple as clicking a nondescrip link posted on a forum, yes.

That's linear thinking.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Yeah, two viable options that literally thousands of people do. And then there's the third option that MILLIONS of people do which is DO WITHOUT IT if one can't afford to obtain it legally.

But hey, go ahead and continue to admit that you're a TH[IE]F while pretending to teach the rest of us anything.

FYP

Or go watch the game at a friend's house or at a bar...

Originally posted by Corndog
One was in a database that was supposed to be secured.
You keep acting like if Apple says "our Cloud services are secure", that means it would be true. Again, there have been multiple high-profile data hacks of software services in the past 6 months. Stop being naive.