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Originally posted by xcoach2
Jack Hammer works every down, Mr. Reliable only counters jack hammer on 3rd & 4th down.

maybe that's a sign that you should run on 1st and 2nd 0_o

Originally posted by xcoach2
My WR with 74 catching, 50 carrying, 60 vision went 2/2 on balls caught knocked lose in his game yesterday.


Which WR?

Originally posted by kurieg
Which WR?

Explosive Athlete - he has base 68 catching and then maxed Soft Hands VA.

Explosive Athlete (Lv. 53 WR)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 199lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $205124
Daily Salary: $7500
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 0
Bonus Tokens: 5
Veteran Points: 1
Next Level: 782/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 33
Speed: 113.46
Agility: 75.8
Jumping: 49.41
Stamina: 45.41
Vision: 60.41
Confidence: 48.71

Football Skills
Blocking: 17
Catching: 68.18
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 50.71
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Possession Receiver Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Jumping Catch: 0
Diving Catch: 0
One Handed Catch: 0

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 3
Quick Cut: 5
Head Fake: 1
Spin: 1
Juke: 5

Veteran Abilities
Soft Hands: 15
Motivational Speaker: 2
Quick Feet: 1
Underdog: 15

The whole VA system is flawed, and always has been. There should be a counter for every VA, but there is not.

Originally posted by Drago
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=696282&pbp_id=949553

I won't even get into the 14 knocked loose passes from this game:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=712839 And how that is complete bullshit...

But that play really shows that there are some real problems with the coding. This guy has not only caught the ball, he's making a football move upfield, and even trying to put a juke on the defender, but 2 yards after he makes the catch it gets knocked loose.

Again, WR's need an extreme discount in this game with this fucking bullshit.

1) WR has to somehow get open - beat the CB
2) WR has to then get targeted by the QB (a joke that needs its own thread)
3) WR has to get by the defenders "deflection" roll
4) WR has to pass his own "catch" roll
5) WR has to overcome the defenders "knocked loose" roll

#5 is the biggest p.o.s. ever introduced to GLB, bigger than the super d-line nerf of whenever, and no one seems to give a shit. We had 26 balls knocked loose in a single game last year... a TE who is a receiving monster on the team I OC dropped 47 balls last year. Forty-fucking-seven! And that TE is sitting on more carrying than any other elite TE I've seen. To put that in perspective he dropped more in 1 season as he did in his previous 5 seasons. Oh, and he's maxed out on Mr. Reliable (let's just make Mr. Reliable work on 1st/2nd/3rd/4th... the defenders have jackhammer good for all four downs)

If you're going to have all this knocked loose crap, then we need to see more absolute misses by the CB when going for it that gives up a big gain or a TD. To leave it how it is for another season (this will be the second and a half season that it comes into play... it was introduced mid S9 with no announcement - classy way to sneak it in) is a fucking joke... what do receivers need? 60 carrying to reduce this effectively? 70? Give me a number if nothing else.

FYI - "Cover Up" helps with this according to the staff. Any elite receivers/TE's going with that one?


Our rec TE had a knocked loose problem. Went to nine in Cover Up due to a very timely AEQ roll. It did jack sh1t. It wasn't until we got his carrying up to 60ish area that the problem noticeable improved.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
I am not saying it's not a problem, but I tend to look at 70-80 Catching as the level at which you catch everything whereas a lot of people seem to think barely above 60 is enough.

Agreed. I have a TE with 71 catching and he doesn't drop 70% of the passes thrown his way.

Let's not forget that this is, in essence, a PvP game, and every attack needs a counter. Right now, any defender can cause a KL, and no one has any idea how. Jackhammer helps, and there's a STR req on it, but we've all seen 25 STR CBs and 40 STR safeties KL with regularity. Carrying is supposed to be the counter, but how can you counter something that doesn't seem to require any tangible attribute?

Originally posted by PierreThomas
Agreed. I have a TE with 71 catching and he doesn't drop 70% of the passes thrown his way.

From my research catching has nothing to do with the knocked loose roll.

Sure Hands doesn't help prevent PDs or jackhammer. It is a roll against drops. Re-read the description carefully. Awful VA

Originally posted by xcoach2
Explosive Athlete - he has base 68 catching and then maxed Soft Hands VA.



Or I made a mistake.

Originally posted by blln4lyf
The whole VA system is flawed, and always has been. There should be a counter for every VA, but there is not.

I agree, every position should have 6 different VAs. 3 of the VAs should offer some sort of bonus to a skill, the other 3 should offer counters to a skill the opposite position have. That way everyone playing GLB can counter out these stupid fucking VAs since Bort wont get rid of them like most want.

Originally posted by PierreThomas
Originally posted by tpaterniti

I am not saying it's not a problem, but I tend to look at 70-80 Catching as the level at which you catch everything whereas a lot of people seem to think barely above 60 is enough.

Agreed. I have a TE with 71 catching and he doesn't drop 70% of the passes thrown his way.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=150948

70+ catching, 50+ carrying, 60+ strength, 15 Mr. Reliable, 15 Possession WR yet got both of his 2 passes knocked loose on 6-7 yard routes.

Originally posted by PierreThomas
Originally posted by blln4lyf

The whole VA system is flawed, and always has been. There should be a counter for every VA, but there is not.

I agree, every position should have 6 different VAs. 3 of the VAs should offer some sort of bonus to a skill, the other 3 should offer counters to a skill the opposite position have. That way everyone playing GLB can counter out these stupid fucking VAs since Bort wont get rid of them like most want.

/thread. I have been saying for a long time that the VA system should be thrown away if Bort is not willing to balance it out.

Hey my WR got 3 passes knocked loose in that game

And he has 63 catching, 60 vision, and 52 carrying.

Guess he needs more speed/agility. Because obviously if I pump that more the defense won't be close enough to me to knock the pass loose...

Originally posted by kurieg
Or I made a mistake.

The Nats had quite a few in our first scrimmage too. There were 13 drops on our end, I haven't checked to see how many were caught knocked loose.