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Originally posted by Corndog
Except looking at them doesn't equate to ratings.

Posting threads all over the internet celebrating them, and acting like the hackers are heroes is what fuels the fire. Condoning rather than condemning. Following a link to them is doing neither, really.

Yeah, because site traffic is meaningless to everyone.

Originally posted by Corndog
I mean, what annoys me the most is how people don't look at the whole picture.

Sure, I enjoy looking at attractive naked women. But the act of getting them, at least in this case, is disturbing, especially seeing people heralding it.

What if they hacked a database to steal credit card information? It's the same thing except credit cards instead of boobs. Would people be applauding other people posting lists of the credit cards? Would they be heroes or just scumbags?

The fact that one is cool and the other is not depends on if it tickles your willy or not?

Right, but looking at the boobs is no harm no foul right? Stealing the boobs is a heinous crime, but I can support the sites who host the stolen images, thus increasing the "value" of the computer crime to the perp.

Your argument that looking at them is fine would be like arguing that using a stolen credit card number is fine, so long as you didn't steal it yourself.

Originally posted by foofighter24
Of course actions have consequences, but the actions taken by these people did not lead to that consequence. Their privacy was invaded and these pictures were stolen from them.

I guess they should never take their burqa off or the rape is their fault...

1) Walking around naked on Rodeo drive
2) Taking nudes and sending them to a bunch of people
3) Taking nudes and texting them to your BF
4) Taking nudes and emailing them to yourself
5) Taking nudes and storing them on the cloud
6) Taking nudes and storing them on your PC
7) Taking nudes and storing them on a USB drive
8) Taking nudes and developing the film in your own dark room, hand delivering to your BF
9) Having someone take a nude of you in a place you expect some privacy (like your backyard)
10) Having someone take a nude of you in a place you expect total privacy (like your shower)

In all of these cases, whoever steals or leaks the pictures is wrong.
In some of these cases, you are acting in a manner that makes it more or less likely that your nudes will be compromised.

The more you have to lose and the more likely someone is going to demand your nude, the more risk averse you ought to be with having your nudes out there.

Originally posted by Vuijox
if you didn't want your stuff stolen you shouldn't have had stuff!

The better stuff you have, the more care you take in protecting it.

Just because you left the keys in your $200,000 car doesn't mean that someone wasn't wrong to steal it, but you were a fucking idiot for being careless.

1) Left keys in car, doors unlocked, engine running, unattended in a public place
2) Left keys in car, doors unlocked, unattended in a public place
3) Left keys in car, unattended in a public place
4) Left doors unlocked, unattended in a public place
5) Left keys in car, doors unlocked, engine running, at home
6) Left keys in car, doors unlocked, at home
7) Left keys in car, unattended at home
8) Left doors unlocked, unattended at home
9) Locked car, keys with you, alarm set, in a public place
10) Locked car, keys with you, alarm set, in a locked garage

Yeah, you steal the car in any of those situations, you are still at fault. But you have to be risk averse to get sympathy.

Originally posted by Corndog
If it was a smoking hot grocery bagger at Krogers, would the police even return the call about stolen virtual pictures? Let alone tear down the internet in search of them?

Thankfully no. [fap,fap,fap]

Originally posted by foofighter24
The cloud is presented as a convenient and secure backup and method of retrieval. Apple is certainly perceived to be a reputable company. I really don't think those people did anything wrong.

People are saying in order to minimize their risk, they should not take pictures. That is what I object to; the notion that they are somehow not entitled to normal lives because a bunch of perverts are obsessed with them.

Taking naked pictures is so normal and not deviant that even straight people do it.

If they gays were participating in such behavior, I wonder what your opinion of it would be? Probably sending them to underage kids and the people who had their pictures stolen were only trying to corrupt young people into becoming gay, right?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Nails it.



But he doesn't have the same conviction about people stealing video games, so...paging Dr. Morissette.

Yup. Probably illegally downloads music, tv, games, etc. People don't have a right to control their digital property once they make it available, so if publishers want me to stop stealing their copyrighted works, they should stop publishing them.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Taking naked pictures is so normal and not deviant that even straight people do it.

If they gays were participating in such behavior, I wonder what your opinion of it would be? Probably sending them to underage kids and the people who had their pictures stolen were only trying to corrupt young people into becoming gay, right?

i lol'd

I'm still curious as to what precautions they could have taken to secure their data from a zero day exploit

Originally posted by Bushido Zin
I'm still curious as to what precautions they could have taken to secure their data from a zero day exploit

only one I can think of is to not have their data stored off site.

Originally posted by seths99
only one I can think of is to not have their data stored off site.

Or not to take digital naked selfies on a device that backs up photos to the cloud and/or their PC and/or not texting them to other parties and/or not letting someone video you getting slapped in the face with a dick.

I guess maybe I'm not a celebrity, so I just don't understand how it could/would/should be normal to allow these things to be done/captured/etc.

Originally posted by Bushido Zin
I'm still curious as to what precautions they could have taken to secure their data from a zero day exploit

Yeah, because it is out of the realm of possibility that a digital image of your naked body could ever find its way onto the internet when the device you are using has an active internet connection.

Again, no one had the right to steal these images. I'm not suggesting that you abstain from sex or the naked photo equivalent, but I'm suggesting that if you have sex, you use a condom.

I have a reasonable expectation that my email accounts not be hacked and had their contents spread around.

I'm curious what you think of the NSA keeping tabs on people?

"i support my right to privacy, but I also have a right to masturbate to stolen photos"

Originally posted by Bushido Zin
"i support my right to privacy, but I also have a right to masturbate to stolen photos"

I'm pretty sure I've made it clear that people SHOULDN'T be searching for or viewing those pictures, because increasing traffic and demand for them only encourages more people to attempt these kinds of hacks.

If there wasn't a market for stolen goods, do you think as many people would be stealing things?

Originally posted by Bushido Zin
I have a reasonable expectation that my email accounts not be hacked and had their contents spread around.

I'm curious what you think of the NSA keeping tabs on people?

I'm a lawyer. I believe that you don't put anything in writing that don't want coming out. If I want to talk 'really' off the record with someone, I meet them in person. Yeah, there's a chance that someone's trying to bug you, but bugging a private conversation between someone and their lawyer is probably never going to be admissible and would very likely be actionable against the government.