Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Catch22
I might just get rid of Combo HB, I think the other three are more than sufficient - I'll look it over and discuss with Bort.

I believe that calls for a temp forum ban.

Originally posted by Catch22
Hmmm maybe make it if someone selects Combo they can only have 0 on the slider.

Either that or get rid of it.

I like that idea, it would be nice if there was a VA that worked with Combo, maybe .5% to break tackle, .5% to fake but only if your slider is on 0

Originally posted by Gart888
If that's the case, you'd probably want to have some sort of VA in between sliperry and bruiser that only works with 0 on teh slider. Because lolololol if you think anybody is going to give up those VAs in favor of some better majors.

I agree and definitely something we would do if we were going to do that. Probably something that is a combo of slippery/bruiser (break tackle % if combo archetype)

Originally posted by Gart888
no quick feet allowed either then? otherwise combo backs will likely end up being the best at faking. o_O

Combos can't be lighter than 200?

Originally posted by Mr. Whiskers
Will this cause more or less Slow Builders?

No.

But it will get rid of some of the issues that the previous system had, that were amplified by Archetypes.

i.e. Fullbacks had no speed to 60, because it didn't recieve any ALGs, same with WRs and str.

Since there are diminishing returns on SA's will the bonus be less powerful then the SA penalties (if the SA has a Natural Value of say 10. Flat Bonus makes it 12, penalty makes it 8. Will there still be diminishing returns on the SA bonuses?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by Mr. Whiskers

Will this cause more or less Slow Builders?


For some it's going to encourage some degree of circle-cap building, since they'll have several desirable majors upon which to train/spend SPs.

circle cap building is still slowbuilding.

Originally posted by Catch22
Hmmm maybe make it if someone selects Combo they can only have 0 on the slider.

Either that or get rid of it.

Loooool


So a worthless player??? Rename it sucker than. No bt% = avg aa back

Originally posted by crazy454
Since there are diminishing returns on SA's will the bonus be less powerful then the SA penalties (if the SA has a Natural Value of say 10. Flat Bonus makes it 12, penalty makes it 8. Will there still be diminishing returns on the SA bonuses?



Yea, this is a good point.

If I want to get Power Thru to 21 via ADV equip. I would want that % bonus I got to be a pretty huge bonus compared to someone with 11 in PT.

Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader

Originally posted by Mr. Whiskers


Will this cause more or less Slow Builders?


For some it's going to encourage some degree of circle-cap building, since they'll have several desirable majors upon which to train/spend SPs.

circle cap building is still slowbuilding.


ldo.

really just leaning to getting rid of combo - would be a lot of work to reinvent it and the other three options cover the HB "world"

Originally posted by David Stern
Originally posted by Catch22

Hmmm maybe make it if someone selects Combo they can only have 0 on the slider.

Either that or get rid of it.

Loooool


So a worthless player??? Rename it sucker than. No bt% = avg aa back

I agree'd stacking break tackle VAs + AEQ is pretty overpowered. nerf.

Bad idea to restrict players tactics and force then to play a certain way... If you make a combo alg you can't say "you have to do xyz" worst idea ever, bort would never gofor that either

Originally posted by Catch22
really just leaning to getting rid of combo - would be a lot of work to reinvent it and the other three options cover the HB "world"

Could just drop Scat Back, instead. It's pretty easy to build one of those from an Elusive archetype, and could easily add Sticky Hands as a bonus SA.

I'd say leave combo, with no SA bonuses, and drop Carrying down to a minor, replace with a less important skill.

Originally posted by Catch22
really just leaning to getting rid of combo - would be a lot of work to reinvent it and the other three options cover the HB "world"

U need a balanced version of hbs lol , no penalty to either sa like every other position in the game has...