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Originally posted by foofighter24
I would compare those blaming the victims to a person saying a woman should not travel at all or they subject themselves to rape.

Thats because youre an idiot

Originally posted by foofighter24
I don't go "apeshit" on anyone.

I think there is a spectrum of good, better, best decisions. I also think those decisions are based on information you have or should have.

I know everyone is suddenly a technology security expert after this happened, but there is little reason for those people to suspect their pictures would be compromised like that. I would compare those blaming the victims to a person saying a woman should not travel at all or they subject themselves to rape.

you don't have to be a tech expert to understand that your information is less secure stored online than if it isn't stored online.
I don't think anyone is 'blaming' the victims here. however, people are saying that they did not do all they could to minimize their risk.

Originally posted by seths99
you don't have to be a tech expert to understand that your information is less secure stored online than if it isn't stored online.
I don't think anyone is 'blaming' the victims here. however, people are saying that they did not do all they could to minimize their risk.

Except you're not talking about minimizing risk.

You're taking some superior position because they don't know how the cloud works.

Some of these photos were apparently deleted from the original source. To a person that's not terribly tech savvy, that would seem to be the surest way to get rid of something.

Originally posted by Knick
Except you're not talking about minimizing risk.

You're taking some superior position because they don't know how the cloud works.

knowing how your shit works is a way to minimize risk. if you don't know how the cloud works, yet you're allowing things to be backed up to that location, then yes, you are opening yourself up to more risk.

and again, I am certainly NOT saying that what happened is the fault of the victim. clearly the hackers are 100% to blame. I am simply saying that the victims did put themselves more at risk for this type of theft than a person who does not allow backup to an online source.

I don't think anyone here is saying that these celebrities deserved what happened to them or that it wasn't an invasion of privacy, but with anything you consider sensitive you should probably familiarize yourself with how it's being handled and take appropriate steps to avoid exposing yourself. Reckless behavior sometimes has consequences.

Originally posted by seths99
you don't have to be a tech expert to understand that your information is less secure stored online than if it isn't stored online.
I don't think anyone is 'blaming' the victims here. however, people are saying that they did not do all they could to minimize their risk.

The cloud is presented as a convenient and secure backup and method of retrieval. Apple is certainly perceived to be a reputable company. I really don't think those people did anything wrong.

People are saying in order to minimize their risk, they should not take pictures. That is what I object to; the notion that they are somehow not entitled to normal lives because a bunch of perverts are obsessed with them.

Originally posted by foofighter24
The cloud is presented as a convenient and secure backup and method of retrieval. Apple is certainly perceived to be a reputable company. I really don't think those people did anything wrong.

People are saying in order to minimize their risk, they should not take pictures. That is what I object to; the notion that they are somehow not entitled to normal lives because a bunch of perverts are obsessed with them.

some people might be saying that. I'm not. I'm saying that if you want to minimize risk, just don't allow those photos to be backed up online. I realize that Apple touts themselves as secure, but so does literally every other company with an online presence, and we constantly hear about hackers getting in, so I'm not sure how anyone can truly believe claims of that security.

Foo, if you changed that teddy bear in your avatar to this bear: http://forums.accuweather.com/uploads/post-19113-1254167261.png

it would be way funnier

Originally posted by seths99
and again, I am certainly NOT saying that what happened is the fault of the victim. clearly the hackers are 100% to blame. I am simply saying that the victims did put themselves more at risk for this type of theft than a person who does not allow backup to an online source.

But we ALL put ourselves at risk. Would we condemn someone for filing their taxes online when their personal information is stolen from some sort of database? Or say someone should not have been using a cell phone when they are tapped?

Originally posted by foofighter24
But we ALL put ourselves at risk. Would we condemn someone for filing their taxes online when their personal information is stolen from some sort of database? Or say someone should not have been using a cell phone when they are tapped?

who's condemning? I'm just saying that they put themselves at higher risk.

Originally posted by seths99
who's condemning? I'm just saying that they put themselves at higher risk.

As technology evolves, the risk continually changes and evolves, as well as our perception of it. Remember the stories about Obama's blackberry being such a security risk?

It just feels like people are saying that they should have been sending these picture via carrier pigeon.

Originally posted by Corndog
I mean, what annoys me the most is how people don't look at the whole picture.

Sure, I enjoy looking at attractive naked women. But the act of getting them, at least in this case, is disturbing, especially seeing people heralding it.

What if they hacked a database to steal credit card information? It's the same thing except credit cards instead of boobs. Would people be applauding other people posting lists of the credit cards? Would they be heroes or just scumbags?

The fact that one is cool and the other is not depends on if it tickles your willy or not?


Nails it.



But he doesn't have the same conviction about people stealing video games, so...paging Dr. Morissette.