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Ok, well, I can save a picture for you and let you view that, but other than that, the brackets just pair the top two games from your list in round two. Then games 3 and 4 are the second game.

If you want me to save a picture and post it, I can do that, but you can use the list of teams you currently have setup.

Originally posted by JasonArgos
Originally posted by robelder

Don't you want the best teams to make it to the 4th and 5th round? I don't want 3 of the best 4 teams to have already played in round 2 and 3.

If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.

not really, we just want you to stop complaining.

I'm sure MLK Jr. was complaining.

I'm just trying to stand up for the right thing to do here. You're not trying to solve any problems, you're just trying to start fights. I'm trying to right the situation. The only thing I asked for was a systematic way to pair teams, not one that could considered manipulated by a person. That way at the end of the tournament no team could say it was an unfair system. You think I'm trying to cause problems, but I'm trying to head them off.

Yeah it caught me off guard that every round was going to be made up on the fly with what appears to be no thought of which teams were good or bad. I don't really want the best teams to play early in the tournament. I was unaware by what I read that that was the plan for the tournament.

I don't want the best teams to play early either but, nobody really knows who the best teams are. That's what this tournament will find out. Maybe the 2 best teams will play in the 2nd or 3rd round. Then the winner should have no problems winning out. The way I made the first round games was not exactly by igs power rankings. I used them and attempted to make it that way but, it didn't work out. By time this tournament is finished the regular season games may turn the power rankings upside down. A team may have been 32 at the start but in a week or two when this is done they may be #3. then they would have an arguement about getting a crappy seeding. The only way to Completely use the power rankings for seedings and a precompleted bracket is if we did it after the season was complete. I have heard arguements from every which way and with every different scenario you can think of. I will do the best I can to run a fair tournament and I am not partial to any team here. my team is out so I really could care less who wins but, I will continue to use my time to run it. It isn't easy and is very time consuming.

The guys behind this tourney has worked hard in making this fun and as fair as it can be. There is no perfect solution, but please understand that this format has already been discussed and agreed upon from the get go. The reasoning is that this tournament is for 'fun' and that we all have our own leagues to really worry about. We don't want to face an interleague team before we absolutely have to in this 'fun' tournament. At the end of day, we are here to win our real leagues.

Since you did not comprehend what has already been agreed upon the first time around, I suggest the best route for you is to simply accept it and move on. If you had a problem with it, you should have said something about it. Unfortunately, you didn't understand and it is now too late. It is what it is. It may not be fair to you, but its most fair solution for the majority of us.

I hear that, and honestly I didn't ever mean to make problems. I should have started slower in the conversation then I did. I understand the rankings will change, but I do think they help to understand who is currently the better teams. A team ranked number 1 may be top 12 in reality, but that is still better than ranking them 35. I think the rankings are pretty good, not because of my rank, but because of the formula. It isn't perfect, but none are.

My opinion is use the rankings as they stand when the tournament starts and then let it play out. If you want to switch out teams from the same league, I understand that, but changes I would say should be marginal. I'm pretty pumped about facing Marcy since I hear they are the team that is going to whoop us! After round 2, I'd leave the whole thing as it stands.

Thank you for your time. I know how time consuming GLB and extra stuff on here can get. Sorry for getting riled.

Originally posted by narcissus1
The guys behind this tourney has worked hard in making this fun and as fair as it can be. There is no perfect solution, but please understand that this format has already been discussed and agreed upon from the get go. The reasoning is that this tournament is for 'fun' and that we all have our own leagues to really worry about. We don't want to face an interleague team before we absolutely have to in this 'fun' tournament. At the end of day, we are here to win our real leagues.

Since you did not comprehend what has already been agreed upon the first time around, I suggest the best route for you is to simply accept it and move on. If you had a problem with it, you should have said something about it. Unfortunately, you didn't understand and it is now too late. It is what it is. It may not be fair to you, but its most fair solution for the majority of us.

Why are you trying to cause more problems. You guys are unbelievable. I'm totally being nice hear and trying to talk things out, and you are being a jerk about it. Whatever.

You'll have to show me those conversations because they weren't in this thread and I knew nothing of them.

Pot calling the kettle black.

You admitted yourself you didn't comprehend; you admitted that you got riled. Your hypocrisy makes me laugh.

Its just a game. Its just a game.

Originally posted by robelder
Originally posted by JasonArgos

Originally posted by robelder


Don't you want the best teams to make it to the 4th and 5th round? I don't want 3 of the best 4 teams to have already played in round 2 and 3.

If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.

not really, we just want you to stop complaining.

I'm sure MLK Jr. was complaining.

I'm just trying to stand up for the right thing to do here. You're not trying to solve any problems, you're just trying to start fights. I'm trying to right the situation. The only thing I asked for was a systematic way to pair teams, not one that could considered manipulated by a person. That way at the end of the tournament no team could say it was an unfair system. You think I'm trying to cause problems, but I'm trying to head them off.

Yeah it caught me off guard that every round was going to be made up on the fly with what appears to be no thought of which teams were good or bad. I don't really want the best teams to play early in the tournament. I was unaware by what I read that that was the plan for the tournament.

Comparing yourself to MLK Jr. on a online football forum is pathetic. Quit complaining, quit whining and for real, dont compare yourself to a great great historical figure. You are pathetic.

Take a look around. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW THIS THING IS RUN. Contrary to what you may think, you are not important. You are annoying, but not important.

Originally posted by narcissus1
Pot calling the kettle black.

You admitted yourself you didn't comprehend; you admitted that you got riled. Your hypocrisy makes me laugh.

The difference between you and me is that you are making jabs at me. Fine, whatever you like to do that I guess. I thought I was being helpful to make sure we had the best possible tourney. I did misunderstand because in this thread it was very unclear.

I've never seen any tournament done like this where the first two teams that finish play each other.

Why are you trying to start stuff?

Originally posted by Tothehouse
Originally posted by robelder

Originally posted by JasonArgos


Originally posted by robelder



Don't you want the best teams to make it to the 4th and 5th round? I don't want 3 of the best 4 teams to have already played in round 2 and 3.

If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.

not really, we just want you to stop complaining.

I'm sure MLK Jr. was complaining.

I'm just trying to stand up for the right thing to do here. You're not trying to solve any problems, you're just trying to start fights. I'm trying to right the situation. The only thing I asked for was a systematic way to pair teams, not one that could considered manipulated by a person. That way at the end of the tournament no team could say it was an unfair system. You think I'm trying to cause problems, but I'm trying to head them off.

Yeah it caught me off guard that every round was going to be made up on the fly with what appears to be no thought of which teams were good or bad. I don't really want the best teams to play early in the tournament. I was unaware by what I read that that was the plan for the tournament.

Comparing yourself to MLK Jr. on a online football forum is pathetic. Quit complaining, quit whining and for real, dont compare yourself to a great great historical figure. You are pathetic.

Take a look around. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW THIS THING IS RUN. Contrary to what you may think, you are not important. You are annoying, but not important.



I'm making a point. I thought the analogy would help you understand my perspective. Why are you starting stuff? You guys are unbelievable. You act like you are such a decent person, but you continue to throw out insults at me for trying to get a fair tourney. You're not helpful you're just starting arguments.

Ok, whatever, I didn't realize so many people didn't care what was done. I thought there may be more teams that wanted a structured tournament.


Do whatever you want? My intentions were meant for good, but no one cares about being civil or discussing anything. Sorry I got here late and missed the discussion I can't find anywhere.

Some of you people are just trying to cause trouble. If you were really that big of a person you would try to help someone understand instead trying to insult them and start arguments.

Just forget I questioned anything.

Originally posted by robelder
Originally posted by Tothehouse

Originally posted by robelder


Originally posted by JasonArgos



Originally posted by robelder




Don't you want the best teams to make it to the 4th and 5th round? I don't want 3 of the best 4 teams to have already played in round 2 and 3.

If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.

not really, we just want you to stop complaining.

I'm sure MLK Jr. was complaining.

I'm just trying to stand up for the right thing to do here. You're not trying to solve any problems, you're just trying to start fights. I'm trying to right the situation. The only thing I asked for was a systematic way to pair teams, not one that could considered manipulated by a person. That way at the end of the tournament no team could say it was an unfair system. You think I'm trying to cause problems, but I'm trying to head them off.

Yeah it caught me off guard that every round was going to be made up on the fly with what appears to be no thought of which teams were good or bad. I don't really want the best teams to play early in the tournament. I was unaware by what I read that that was the plan for the tournament.

Comparing yourself to MLK Jr. on a online football forum is pathetic. Quit complaining, quit whining and for real, dont compare yourself to a great great historical figure. You are pathetic.

Take a look around. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW THIS THING IS RUN. Contrary to what you may think, you are not important. You are annoying, but not important.



I'm making a point. I thought the analogy would help you understand my perspective. Why are you starting stuff? You guys are unbelievable. You act like you are such a decent person, but you continue to throw out insults at me for trying to get a fair tourney. You're not helpful you're just starting arguments.

Noone was arguing until you started complaining. You are not helpful. Noone but you is complaining about how the tourney is run. Stop acting like you are a victim when you are the only one in this entire thread complaining about how the tourney is run. Let it go.

I was trying to be helpful. Go and read what I wrote I gave ideas, I showed why I thought it was wrong, I apologize for coming off a little hot, and I was trying to come up with good solutions. You just come along when things are fine and throw insults.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=813310&page=1

Read the first page. It should help.