Warrior General Games

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Trem, what is your proposed solution here my friend?

Would you like to compile an ever-updated SHAME listing in which you track every known multi? You are welcome to do so.

A LOT of people are running multi's at this point. If we Thanos snapped away multi dots today, I am reasonably sure GLB dies between the lost dots and the disinfranchised users.

Bort/DD have the ability to "crack down" with zero desire to. They have IP history, credit card purchase history. They also could kill most multis in an instant if requiring a 1-time email verification to log in, or a phone number tied to accounts. DD echoing "we don't want multis per terms and conditions" doesn't actually mean anything.

Even if multi's magically went away, and even if that somehow magically led to 4x the revenue for GLB, Bort would not do anything for his 20 year old browser sim. It wouldn't lead to any change or improved experience.

For starters, people need to stop spreading the claim that the game allows multiple accounts. There has never been a statement from Bort or any admin that supports that. That idea is entirely made up and repeated enough that people now treat it as fact.

The argument that “getting rid of multis would shut down the game” makes no sense. If anything, it would improve server performance for the people actually paying. At worst, revenue stays the same. At best, it increases. I’m far more willing to spend when I know I’m not competing against someone running five accounts. The freeloaders can stay. just with one account like everyone else.

What is insulting is the implication that people abusing multiple accounts are somehow more deserving than players paying full price. There is no special permission. That narrative is complete nonsense and only exists to justify cheating.

Enforcement also isn’t complicated. In almost every online game I’ve played, the community is the first line of defense, which is exactly how the mob exploit was uncovered. If someone is reported for running multiple accounts, ban the secondary account and suspend the main. Word spreads fast. Behavior changes even faster.

Instead, misinformation keeps getting repeated, which encourages more people to do it. Like a virus that's how it spreads and eventually it will kill the game.

Shouldn't need someone to have to keep you in line for following the rules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnMdI_NiZvA - rules*

If you really want to do away with Multis and potentially build teams and agents back up, the current FLEX system has to be thrown in the garbage and you need the ability to pay a set fee (perhaps $30 a month or something) to build the complete teams with all players.

When we started this game there was really something for everyone as you could build a dot or two and be a part of one of countless teams in countless regions. It was a dynamic and fair system. in this era however, there simply are not enough teams to go around and as agents left, the pool of teams shrunk and agents found a way to continue a game they loved. I personally am not willing or even able to spend thousands on a game on its last legs. I actually think Tremale is crazy for even making this his branch to die on. Unless your end goal is 10 agents remaining and the game hobbles on until those ten old timers die, I think anyway we keep the game going at this point is a win.

Even more frustrating is spending months to try and build a team and agents disappear and all those months go in the toilet. It's a mess of a system at this point.

Plus I will point out here that an already way too expensive game to play is 40% MORE expensive playing in Canada. I just bought FLEX and instead of 20 bucks, it's 30 bucks so the bang for the money stretches even more. I am not wealthy playing this game. I have a good job that pays enough to live life but not enough to throw non-stop coin to an aging game.

I did the best on our current team to remove the multis and just have the former / current accounts of real people some of whom are currently not on here but have come back in and out at times over the past several years. It isn't a game that holds everyone's attention like the small hardcore group propping this game up.

I think people that break the system to win using hacks and programming is a cheat worth battling. Honestly at this point I have no idea if it is even a fair playing field or multiple agents / teams are doing it just enough to never get caught. I like the analytics and battles in the game but not enough to go broke playing it. LOL That's especially so if it isn't a fair game when the whistle blows.

That's my two bits about everything but I would be careful what you fight for in a sea of Multis and former accounts.

I have no multis. Never have, never will. I simply don't want to keep track of any more user IDs or passwords than I need to - I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so for me, simplicity reigns supreme. Therefore, I have no dog in this fight.

That said, there seems to me to be something reminiscent of a McCarthy-era witch hunt going on, but instead of 'reds' or 'commies', people seem to be going out of their way to 'expose' multis. tremele, this seems to have become something of an obsession for you at this point. Your profile image is exactly how I picture you, heh!

If multis are as prevalent as people think, there's probably a reason for that. One probable reason is this: The game is 20 years old. Many accounts have gone dormant either because the original user lost interest, passed away, or whatever. Whatever flex was in the original account will have been purchased, legally. (Let's leave aside, for the moment, the 'free player' slots. We'll come back to those...)

I tend to agree with many here, who believe that, if you were to suddenly strip away all of the teams and dots currently active in the game that were purchased with that flex, a significant portion of the remaining game would suddenly evaporate. In a game that's already struggling to maintain users (let alone, attract new blood), that would quite likely kill what remains of the game.

That said, I can understand the argument that having a bunch of multis floating in-and-out of team forums, viewing rosters and dot attributes, etc, can make it almost impossible to keep any sort of secrecy in team plans, personnel packages, etc. The result is, team forums are bereft of any meaningful 'team chatter'. Builds remain closed. And whatever sense of team spirit or community is lost.

So what to do?

Well, what if there were a way to 'merge' accounts? Call it a 'multi-amnesty' - Dotlandia's very own 'Dreamers'. Assuming the game administrators could do something like this (and - perhaps an even bigger assumption - assuming they could be prodded into doing so), if 'multi' accounts could somehow be absorbed or rolled into a 'main' account, wouldn't that solve the problem?

"Ah, but Ravenwood," you ask, "what about all those 'free players'?" Well, I would think that the number of 'free players' involved would be minimal. Unless the multi accounts are being used specifically to get the 'free players', I would think they'd be a relatively small number of dots.

For those multis who exist specifically for the purposes of gaining those 'free players', well, those are indeed the problem accounts, purposefully seeking to avoid paying for flex. Those accounts really ought to be flushed.

But to burn a long-time player of the game who may have invested hundreds, if not thousands of dollars into this game over years, and who is simply managing an account he inherited, seems a bit extreme.

Originally posted by tremele
Not to keep stiring the pot, but here you have it from DD. Multis are not allowed


From:
DigitalDaggers
Date Sent:
Jan 6, 2026 17:50:49
Subject:
Re: Clarification on Mulitple Accounts
We don't want people using multiple accounts. We also understand that people have spouses and siblings and other folks on their same IP address though.

Phew! Good thing I have 10 siblings and spouses in my household that play this game.

Originally posted by SmithsterSmitty
Plus I will point out here that an already way too expensive game to play is 40% MORE expensive playing in Canada.

Elbows up, hoser!

the idea of sisters and wives playing GLB on the same IP address is laughable

Originally posted by Ravenwood
Elbows up, hoser!



LOL. That quote sure did us proud

Originally posted by SmithsterSmitty

I actually think Tremale is crazy for even making this his branch to die on. Unless your end goal is 10 agents remaining and the game hobbles on until those ten old timers die, I think anyway we keep the game going at this point is a win.



This may be your first pay-to-win style game, but this is how all of them work. Games built on this model inherently encourage spending to gain an advantage. That isn’t controversial, it’s the entire business model. Sounds like you might like GLB2, they have this pricing structure I heard.

The argument that the game is “too expensive” for some agents to compete is honestly laughable. The pricing has been unchanged since Season 1. Nothing moved. Nothing suddenly became unfair. If someone can’t or doesn’t want to spend money on the game, that’s fine, but the solution is to play casually or play something else, not to go around the rules.

Creating multiple accounts to bypass spending is not fair to the players who follow the rules, especially when a growing number of people keep falsely claiming it’s allowed. That misinformation is doing real damage.

And the goalposts have shifted substantially since the message from DD. The conversation quietly moved from “it’s allowed” to “well, how would we even police it?” — which are two very different arguments. One is a claim of permission. The other is an excuse for inaction.

Lack of enforcement does not equal permission.

Originally posted by Rocdog21
Phew! Good thing I have 10 siblings and spouses in my household that play this game.

And that's fine. But lets stops pretending multi accounts are allowed. Atleast be discrete about it. The people here encourage it vs spending money. It's pretty wild.

Originally posted by tremele
This may be your first pay-to-win style game, but this is how all of them work. Games built on this model inherently encourage spending to gain an advantage. That isn’t controversial, it’s the entire business model. Sounds like you might like GLB2, they have this pricing structure I heard.

The argument that the game is “too expensive” for some agents to compete is honestly laughable. The pricing has been unchanged since Season 1. Nothing moved. Nothing suddenly became unfair. If someone can’t or doesn’t want to spend money on the game, that’s fine, but the solution is to play casually or play something else, not to go around the rules.

Creating multiple accounts to bypass spending is not fair to the players who follow the rules, especially when a growing number of people keep falsely claiming it’s allowed. That misinformation is doing real damage.

And the goalposts have shifted substantially since the message from DD. The conversation quietly moved from “it’s allowed” to “well, how would we even police it?” — which are two very different arguments. One is a claim of permission. The other is an excuse for inaction.

Lack of enforcement does not equal permission.

I said my two bits brother. How it is inferred is up to you. I was an agent on a team and happy to be so through two long eras (the beginning against Cobra Kai as the Carnales) and the long era of the Mayan Warriors. If we could still have that era, all would be fine but that era is done. Nothing became unfair but everything became unfeasable. Perhaps you never had a team built up and as you got to the top agents dropped out no notice and all those months wiped out. Probably was the beginning of myself not caring about PRO.

I am being honest here but truthfully if I were wiped out, I will play baldurs gate, witcher, wizardry, heroes, ncaa and be just as happy. I am a nerd who also happened to play a lot of years of football and coach it who loves breaking it down, making plays and building dots but if this is a game just for the wealthy, then I have no problem going elsewhere at this point lol. What I do know is there are countless former agents accounts being propped up here just to add teams and interest to this game PAST its best before date. WAY PAST.

I did my best to stir the pot up the ladder and add some spice to this game. I tried to incorporate some of the Cobra Kai games that ruffled feather to spark interest and I think as a group we did a decent job of that but even that I am done with. It's too tough to add passion where little is remaining.

I'm good either way If I cannot log in one day then I'll immediately log in GOG and life with remain the same

I brought some honesty to the mix here so we will see where it goes. One thing is for sure and it has been an amazing run.

Originally posted by tremele
This may be your first pay-to-win style game, but this is how all of them work. Games built on this model inherently encourage spending to gain an advantage. That isn’t controversial, it’s the entire business model. Sounds like you might like GLB2, they have this pricing structure I heard.

The argument that the game is “too expensive” for some agents to compete is honestly laughable. The pricing has been unchanged since Season 1. Nothing moved. Nothing suddenly became unfair. If someone can’t or doesn’t want to spend money on the game, that’s fine, but the solution is to play casually or play something else, not to go around the rules.

Creating multiple accounts to bypass spending is not fair to the players who follow the rules, especially when a growing number of people keep falsely claiming it’s allowed. That misinformation is doing real damage.

And the goalposts have shifted substantially since the message from DD. The conversation quietly moved from “it’s allowed” to “well, how would we even police it?” — which are two very different arguments. One is a claim of permission. The other is an excuse for inaction.

Lack of enforcement does not equal permission.

BTW... The only thing GLB2 has right is a better pay structure. The game is a steaming pile of dog shit compared to the simple fun of GLB. I would have been there if it was this.

Originally posted by Ravenwood
That said, there seems to me to be something reminiscent of a McCarthy-era witch hunt going on, but instead of 'reds' or 'commies', people seem to be going out of their way to 'expose' multis. tremele, this seems to have become something of an obsession for you at this point. Your profile image is exactly how I picture you, heh!


I'm not exposing anyone...yet . I just wanted clarification on the claim that Bort and co said multis were allowed. If so, I would have also be going this route. This didn't happen and I'm sure a bunch of people out there using multis were deceived as well.

Originally posted by SmithsterSmitty
BTW... The only thing GLB2 has right is a better pay structure. The game is a steaming pile of dog shit compared to the simple fun of GLB. I would have been there if it was this.



Doesn't surprise me. I tried it long ago but didnt' care for it. Get what you pay for.

Originally posted by tremele
Doesn't surprise me. I tried it long ago but didnt' care for it. Get what you pay for.

Fair enough I made my point. If you feel the current FLEX model will keep the game afloat, it's all good. I was honest within the thread so feel free to report it and if I am gone, best of luck to all of you.

Originally posted by SmithsterSmitty
Fair enough I made my point. If you feel the current FLEX model will keep the game afloat, it's all good. I was honest within the thread so feel free to report it and if I am gone, best of luck to all of you.



I'm not reporting anyone, that was just a joke. I like Ravenwood's idea about combining the accounts. For real it was a common misconception that multis were allowed. I don't think anyone should be banned for it now, even if they have 100s. But lets stop pretending it's not breaking the rules as a way to circumvent the pay to win model.