He only has 2 DTs and both are pass rushers. Don't think that is the run stopping defense you are going to want to use.
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shouldn't matter that much though...that's why the whole thing is a waste of time right?
4-4 D against any inside 2Wr play is probably going to stifled...
same with any other formation.
will it average negative yardage? no.
will it average 15 like a QB Gl roll out? no
My guess: 3-4 ypc even if his DTs are crappy - unless it gets skewed by some long HB runs
4-4 D against any inside 2Wr play is probably going to stifled...
same with any other formation.
will it average negative yardage? no.
will it average 15 like a QB Gl roll out? no
My guess: 3-4 ypc even if his DTs are crappy - unless it gets skewed by some long HB runs
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There is a simple solution that nobody has mentioned... remove the qb sweep from the goalline formation, how many teams do you see run it in real life? its not a real play the closes thing was nebraskas speed option out of the maryland I (thatd be a good formation 
) overall if you dont know how to fix it just remove the play until you figure it out. You arent going to lose anyone from playing the game, if they have learned to spam the play they have more than likely invested money The only change i would like to see besides the removal of that play? Give the defenders a 50/50 shot at the ball for at least a deflection when they are abusing the innocents of a receiver with teh ball in the air. Not everyone is calvin Johnson.
) overall if you dont know how to fix it just remove the play until you figure it out. You arent going to lose anyone from playing the game, if they have learned to spam the play they have more than likely invested money The only change i would like to see besides the removal of that play? Give the defenders a 50/50 shot at the ball for at least a deflection when they are abusing the innocents of a receiver with teh ball in the air. Not everyone is calvin Johnson.Xavori
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Originally posted by vipermaw82
There is a simple solution that nobody has mentioned... remove the qb sweep from the goalline formation, how many teams do you see run it in real life? its not a real play the closes thing was nebraskas speed option out of the maryland I (thatd be a good formation ) overall if you dont know how to fix it just remove the play until you figure it out. You arent going to lose anyone from playing the game, if they have learned to spam the play they have more than likely invested money The only change i would like to see besides the removal of that play? Give the defenders a 50/50 shot at the ball for at least a deflection when they are abusing the innocents of a receiver with teh ball in the air. Not everyone is calvin Johnson.
Pretty sure that's been mentioned a few hundred times at this point. It's a bad solution because it isn't going to fix any of the other ways you can abuse a defense with outside running.
Not to mention that given how limited our play selection is already, especially for running QB's, why do we need to make it worse? Why not fix defenses to play better instead?
There is a simple solution that nobody has mentioned... remove the qb sweep from the goalline formation, how many teams do you see run it in real life? its not a real play the closes thing was nebraskas speed option out of the maryland I (thatd be a good formation ) overall if you dont know how to fix it just remove the play until you figure it out. You arent going to lose anyone from playing the game, if they have learned to spam the play they have more than likely invested money The only change i would like to see besides the removal of that play? Give the defenders a 50/50 shot at the ball for at least a deflection when they are abusing the innocents of a receiver with teh ball in the air. Not everyone is calvin Johnson.
Pretty sure that's been mentioned a few hundred times at this point. It's a bad solution because it isn't going to fix any of the other ways you can abuse a defense with outside running.
Not to mention that given how limited our play selection is already, especially for running QB's, why do we need to make it worse? Why not fix defenses to play better instead?
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Abusing people with the other formations is more tactical. Abusing people with gl is really just gutless.
Originally posted by peeti
totally agree on nearly all points you made. also about the buff other QB runs. but tge solution should only be a momenrum fix to stop the exploit. After that it just needs a buff to the defense rather than nerfing the play
lol its not a "buff" the other runs.
All that has to be done is fix the OL blocking on the other QB rollouts. Then you can get destroyed by ALL Rollouts from ALL formations.
What D needs is a tweak to how pursuit affects the defender, and some better plays.
Fixing the other QB rollouts will induce more lolmadness and public bitching.
totally agree on nearly all points you made. also about the buff other QB runs. but tge solution should only be a momenrum fix to stop the exploit. After that it just needs a buff to the defense rather than nerfing the play
lol its not a "buff" the other runs.
All that has to be done is fix the OL blocking on the other QB rollouts. Then you can get destroyed by ALL Rollouts from ALL formations.
What D needs is a tweak to how pursuit affects the defender, and some better plays.
Fixing the other QB rollouts will induce more lolmadness and public bitching.
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Vase Breakers beat Seattle today -- another rush first team. Breaking Vases overpowered?
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
lol its not a "buff" the other runs.
All that has to be done is fix the OL blocking on the other QB rollouts. Then you can get destroyed by ALL Rollouts from ALL formations.
What D needs is a tweak to how pursuit affects the defender, and some better plays.
Fixing the other QB rollouts will induce more lolmadness and public bitching.
The difference with the other QB rollouts is that you need a competent, fast, agile QB to run them well. With a Superstar QB I net 12-15 yards (on the 3 plays that arent completely useless) when Im not stopped for a loss, they will never break for 50+ yards like the Goal Line Rollout will. If the blocking/pathing in all the QB rollout plays are fixed, only QBs and teams built for rushing will be able to use them effectively, and not nearly to the absurd degree of the GL Rollout
lol its not a "buff" the other runs.
All that has to be done is fix the OL blocking on the other QB rollouts. Then you can get destroyed by ALL Rollouts from ALL formations.
What D needs is a tweak to how pursuit affects the defender, and some better plays.
Fixing the other QB rollouts will induce more lolmadness and public bitching.
The difference with the other QB rollouts is that you need a competent, fast, agile QB to run them well. With a Superstar QB I net 12-15 yards (on the 3 plays that arent completely useless) when Im not stopped for a loss, they will never break for 50+ yards like the Goal Line Rollout will. If the blocking/pathing in all the QB rollout plays are fixed, only QBs and teams built for rushing will be able to use them effectively, and not nearly to the absurd degree of the GL Rollout
Edited by Mysterio on May 26, 2014 20:07:13
Edited by Mysterio on May 26, 2014 19:43:26
I think this argument is never really going to go anywhere. We always want to relate this game to RL and frankly it will never be like RL in the pure aspect that you can't change your gameplan at all after the game starts.
With that said, sure hit me one time with GL QB Rollout, hit me twice urgh.... third time I will have schemed to stop you. This doesn't exist in GLB and don't think it will ever get to that detail. All I can do it throw a group of plays at what I "think" will happen and if I guess wrong because I have to sell out to stop a certain play, then I am screwed with no backup options.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't either way.
With that said, sure hit me one time with GL QB Rollout, hit me twice urgh.... third time I will have schemed to stop you. This doesn't exist in GLB and don't think it will ever get to that detail. All I can do it throw a group of plays at what I "think" will happen and if I guess wrong because I have to sell out to stop a certain play, then I am screwed with no backup options.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't either way.
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Originally posted by Sardonik00
Vase Breakers beat Seattle today -- another rush first team. Breaking Vases overpowered?
What is funny is that team would have been scoreless without GL QB Rollout Strong. They may not have even broke 50 yards rushing without spamming that play 26 times. Instead you were only able to hold them to a mere 276. Your team is excellently built to stop the rush and you were able to hold that team to a mere 276 yards rushing from mostly one play. lol
Vase Breakers beat Seattle today -- another rush first team. Breaking Vases overpowered?
What is funny is that team would have been scoreless without GL QB Rollout Strong. They may not have even broke 50 yards rushing without spamming that play 26 times. Instead you were only able to hold them to a mere 276. Your team is excellently built to stop the rush and you were able to hold that team to a mere 276 yards rushing from mostly one play. lol
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Originally posted by Sardonik00
@ Bhall: isn't that like saying if Air Raid didn't have deep passes?
No, your comparison is like taking running away from Yorick. If Air Raid didn't have deep passes they could still pass all over you. If the Seahawks didn't have GL spam they wouldn't be a top 10 team.
@ Bhall: isn't that like saying if Air Raid didn't have deep passes?
No, your comparison is like taking running away from Yorick. If Air Raid didn't have deep passes they could still pass all over you. If the Seahawks didn't have GL spam they wouldn't be a top 10 team.
GG Yorick, tried to run what statistically says is best and well... you saw the results. We are not built well to stop the run, and boom...
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