Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Adderfist
So much truth.


Okay, if it's truth, maybe you can explain what Steve can't.

Why is it I can show lots of games where the QB rollout gets stuffed? Sure, not 100%, but like I said somewhere up there *points*, if ever we start having defensive plays that 100% shut down offenses, then we're going to see a lot of soccer scores. But it gets shut down enough that it's no better or worse than any other run. (total side note: if I'm still playing season 6 or so...I'll buy my own team, and unlike Yorick, it won't be QB run because I know I can build a better HB running team than Yorick will ever be)

On top of that, maybe you can explain why a QB rushing for less than 5000 yards is worse than a QB passing for more than 10,000. I know for fact I'd much rather come up with a gameplan against a rushing team than a passing team, but maybe there's something I'm missing.

You keep harping on qb rushing in general but all anyone is asking for is better options for defensing one single play. One: single. Fucking. Play.

You can shut down the play, it's happened to me, and now that I DC i've already shut it down multiple times in rookie already

Originally posted by bhall43
You keep harping on qb rushing in general but all anyone is asking for is better options for defensing one single play. One: single. Fucking. Play.

*sigh*

I don't expect you to have read all this thread, but I've pointed out tons of times at this point that I can, and have, stopped that one play that is giving y'all so much trouble.

And Yorick can still run it against good defenses, not because it's overpowered, but because we're close to being able to run pretty much everything as evidenced by the game we just finished where all my backs, except the backup QB (he got stuck with sneaks which hurt his average), had over 5 yards per carry.

Originally posted by HayRow
You can shut down the play, it's happened to me, and now that I DC i've already shut it down multiple times in rookie already

Tell us how then...

Originally posted by HayRow
You can shut down the play, it's happened to me, and now that I DC i've already shut it down multiple times in rookie already

I hope one of your multiple times isn't the midgar avalanche game where they didn't use the play in question once.

Originally posted by nortobc
In Xavori's defense, he did agree with me that the OLB should play containment, which would actually make the QB rollout easier to defend.

But until they can fix the defensive AI issue of angles and containment, I suggest they either:

1. remove goalline formation from the playbook
or
2. only let you run goalline formation from inside the 5 yard line

I actually think you should only be able to go goalline when the "to go" distance is 3 yards or less. IE either inside the 3 or 3 or fewer yards from the first down. Then if you defend the outside your running the risk of giving up yardage up the gut, defend the inside and you could give up the outside play.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
I hope one of your multiple times isn't the midgar avalanche game where they didn't use the play in question once.

He owns D'Haran. They run it way more than Yorick.

Originally posted by william78
I actually think you should only be able to go goalline when the "to go" distance is 3 yards or less. IE either inside the 3 or 3 or fewer yards from the first down. Then if you defend the outside your running the risk of giving up yardage up the gut, defend the inside and you could give up the outside play.

Then I don't want people to be able to pass if they have less than 3 yards. Would make my life as a DC way, way more simple.

(and now try to argue against my point without arguing against your own *smirk*)

Originally posted by Xavori
He owns D'Haran. They run it way more than Yorick.


Didn't say they didn't. Was just referring the the midgar game where they only ran the qb roll out weak, which is not currently OP

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
I hope one of your multiple times isn't the midgar avalanche game where they didn't use the play in question once.

Nope, the formations were in place, but because we had shut it down prior midgar tried to switch it up on us and use the weakside rollout...do you know WHY they tried to switch it up? Take a guess

Originally posted by HayRow
Nope, the formations were in place, but because we had shut it down prior midgar tried to switch it up on us and use the weakside rollout...do you know WHY they tried to switch it up? Take a guess

It looks to me like you have the same success as everyone some times you do, sometimes you don't. looking at the I never had Sex games.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
It looks to me like you have the same success as everyone some times you do, sometimes you don't. looking at the I never had Sex games.

check those games again, don't just look at the scores...the game we won was my defense, the other was another guy that said he knew how to stop the qb rollout strong

if you watch them you will see 2 very different defenses.

All I really see in this thread is people wanting others to tell them how to stop something...figure it out

Originally posted by HayRow
check those games again, don't just look at the scores...the game we won was my defense, the other was another guy that said he knew how to stop the qb rollout strong

if you watch them you will see 2 very different defenses.

All I really see in this thread is people wanting others to tell them how to stop something...figure it out

The 51-0 loss looks very similar. 2 corner strong fire to what you did at midgar. It works sometimes and if you get lots of TFL early you can kill it if not you won't stop it.You're defense basically adds edge 2 buzz which is similar.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
The 51-0 loss looks very similar. 2 corner strong fire to what you did at midgar. It works sometimes and if you get lots of TFL early you can kill it if not you won't stop it.You're defense basically adds edge 2 buzz which is similar.

I'm telling you that the 2 games against that same team were different playbooks and different tactics, same depth chart.

If you want to tell me that I just got lucky then so be it, idc. I'm not complaining about the play because i've seen it shut down numerous times