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Originally posted by AlBarsch
The playbook expanded to allow hitting all areas within most formations and defenses must become more boring and basic


the bolded part is why defenses will never catch up now
the italicized part is what I fixed
 
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Agreed, and that makes DCing much less fun than it used to be, but I'm still wondering why last season's plays seem to be working better against last season's defenses. Some DCs also mentioned that they think safeties are coming forward out of deep zones more than they used to before Bort made that change on Nov 11, 2010.
Edited by jdbolick on May 16, 2011 14:55:59
 
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Originally posted by zero
the bolded part is why defenses will never catch up now
the italicized part is what I fixed


lol @ implying that dcing isn't boring and basic as it is currently.

At least DCs will have to think now, instead of dropping in a defense, blitzing 2 vs. singleback every game, etc. etc. having their basic 5 wide defense be a MLB blitz that exploits pathing, etc.

Please, now DC's actually have to cover the field, and not just spots on the field.
 
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Until I am able to drop 70 points on taut's defense any given day defense will still be very much alive.

Not that I dont think a ton of things can be improved defensively. But it is still not completely dead.
 
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you cant spell COCK without an OC


like a chicken, not a wiener , you dirty minds(added so as not to give offense the offendable)
Edited by The Big Cack Envy on May 16, 2011 15:22:12
 
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I apparently misspelled CACK
 
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Originally posted by Otega
lol @ implying that dcing isn't boring and basic as it is currently.

At least DCs will have to think now, instead of dropping in a defense, blitzing 2 vs. singleback every game, etc. etc. having their basic 5 wide defense be a MLB blitz that exploits pathing, etc.

Please, now DC's actually have to cover the field, and not just spots on the field.


You're either talking shit and I hate you or you're saying I'm amazing and I love you... I'm not reading your post to figure out which
 
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Originally posted by Otega
lol @ implying that dcing isn't boring and basic as it is currently.


I said more, implying that yes it already was. not really gonna bother with the rest of your post other than agreeing that yes, I'm glad 5WR isn't a dumb formation anymore

in the playoffs, I think that the good offenses and good OCs in WL will have finally figured out how to incorporate the new plays, and it'll be ridiculous
 
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Originally posted by Otega
lol @ implying that dcing isn't boring and basic as it is currently. At least DCs will have to think now, instead of dropping in a defense, blitzing 2 vs. singleback every game, etc. etc. having their basic 5 wide defense be a MLB blitz that exploits pathing, etc. Please, now DC's actually have to cover the field, and not just spots on the field.

If your goal was to look as clueless as possible about defense on GLB, then go ahead and hang your banner from the nearest aircraft carrier. Of course you could be boring and vanilla on defense, just as teams could run ~10 plays on offense if they choose, but by far the most fun GLB has given me over the last year has been my ability to craft a defense that does over a hundred different things and looks so different from play to play. Yeah, I did use just one versus all 5WR formations, but I had over 200 unique plays actively utilized in my DAI last season. That was possible in part because we knew there were a limited number of plays that OCs could choose from, and which areas of the field were most vulnerable. Now, as zero stated, you have no incentive to plan that way anymore. Now you're actually forced to be vanilla and use the same basic shit against everyone, which is both boring and disappointing. Throw in the fact that HB/FB routes to the same side of the field completely screws up your assignments (the weak/strong designations have limited usefulness now unless you assign four total defenders between the two sides just for the backs), and DCing has taken some pretty massive hits. Now toss in the limited DPC on top of that. GLB has taken away all incentive to be creative on defense.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

If your goal was to look as clueless as possible about defense on GLB, then go ahead and hang your banner from the nearest aircraft carrier. Of course you could be boring and vanilla on defense, just as teams could run ~10 plays on offense if they choose, but by far the most fun GLB has given me over the last year has been my ability to craft a defense that does over a hundred different things and looks so different from play to play. Yeah, I did use just one versus all 5WR formations, but I had over 200 unique plays actively utilized in my DAI last season. That was possible in part because we knew there were a limited number of plays that OCs could choose from, and which areas of the field were most vulnerable. Now, as zero stated, you have no incentive to plan that way anymore. Now you're actually forced to be vanilla and use the same basic shit against everyone, which is both boring and disappointing. Throw in the fact that HB/FB routes to the same side of the field completely screws up your assignments (the weak/strong designations have limited usefulness now unless you assign four total defenders between the two sides just for the backs), and DCing has taken some pretty massive hits. Now toss in the limited DPC on top of that. GLB has taken away all incentive to be creative on defense.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgAoGf84-3A_oclw#t=54s
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

If your goal was to look as clueless as possible about defense on GLB, then go ahead and hang your banner from the nearest aircraft carrier. Of course you could be boring and vanilla on defense, just as teams could run ~10 plays on offense if they choose, but by far the most fun GLB has given me over the last year has been my ability to craft a defense that does over a hundred different things and looks so different from play to play. Yeah, I did use just one versus all 5WR formations, but I had over 200 unique plays actively utilized in my DAI last season. That was possible in part because we knew there were a limited number of plays that OCs could choose from, and which areas of the field were most vulnerable. Now, as zero stated, you have no incentive to plan that way anymore. Now you're actually forced to be vanilla and use the same basic shit against everyone, which is both boring and disappointing. Throw in the fact that HB/FB routes to the same side of the field completely screws up your assignments (the weak/strong designations have limited usefulness now unless you assign four total defenders between the two sides just for the backs), and DCing has taken some pretty massive hits. Now toss in the limited DPC on top of that. GLB has taken away all incentive to be creative on defense.


Otega has no clue about defense, which is why I do it. You can still be creative on defense, but now it's much more risky. Putting both backs to the same side of the field is what made wr clearout so hard to cover in the past and now it can be done all the time. It's a dumb part of the game imo.
 
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give us fall back zones will bring back some clever i think
 
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Originally posted by evileyez
give us fall back zones will bring back some clever i think


Fall back zones and man related zones imo. Will be a huge step in the right direction of this game.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

If your goal was to look as clueless as possible about defense on GLB, then go ahead and hang your banner from the nearest aircraft carrier. Of course you could be boring and vanilla on defense, just as teams could run ~10 plays on offense if they choose, but by far the most fun GLB has given me over the last year has been my ability to craft a defense that does over a hundred different things and looks so different from play to play. Yeah, I did use just one versus all 5WR formations, but I had over 200 unique plays actively utilized in my DAI last season. That was possible in part because we knew there were a limited number of plays that OCs could choose from, and which areas of the field were most vulnerable. Now, as zero stated, you have no incentive to plan that way anymore. Now you're actually forced to be vanilla and use the same basic shit against everyone, which is both boring and disappointing. Throw in the fact that HB/FB routes to the same side of the field completely screws up your assignments (the weak/strong designations have limited usefulness now unless you assign four total defenders between the two sides just for the backs), and DCing has taken some pretty massive hits. Now toss in the limited DPC on top of that. GLB has taken away all incentive to be creative on defense.


needs moar wall of text.
 
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