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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by Raiders12

You can't stagnate at the top. You need the high turnover, otherwise you will make recruitment even worse than it already is for the higher leagues and less and less interest in the game as a whole.

Personally, I think 25% of a league is decent turnover. 50% and you end up just bouncing teams down that are going to go right back up.

An interesting idea would be to have the top 3 teams from each conference promote and have the bottom 6 teams from each WL demote.

The teams that make CCG are in.

Then you have the 2 teams that lose in the conference semi-finals play each other for the last spot.

nice idea

would make that scrim after elimination interesting. I'm all too familiar w/ that freakin game. >_>

Originally posted by AngryDragon
So keep the regions and just make regional and national tiered so that teams can earn their way in.

Oh, wait isn't that how it is now? .

No. Right now we have an auto-promote all the way to Regional.

Then regional is a complete screw up. I GM a team that won conference championship in competitive National Semi-Pro and now it is in regional Pro elite with a bunch of level 56-59 players.

You automatically go to Regional Pro.
Regional Pro promotion/demotion is then horizontal.

There is only National Pro and WL above it, and with the huge number of teams and the large amount of teams that quit or intentionally demote to start over from National Pro, teams get in without earning a spot there.

Right now the only league you have to earn a vertical promotion to is WL.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
It's kind of hard when the best players in Regional Pro are being farmed for teams already in National Pro and WL. By the time they are ready to play National Pro, they go to the good teams that already exist.


The painful truth is that there aren't enough quality players being made to fill the National Pro's, and there aren't enough quality coordinators to go around.

I can go with this, but it still needs to be dealt with at the RPL level not National Pros... We don't need to be adding more Leagues for gosh sakes, we can barely fill rosters around here, we should be taking..

Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.
Originally posted by Rage Kinard

If you think you are taking a team of dots that are younger than 400 days old to the WL you are kidding yourself.

You really don't want to get there until most of your dots are 440 days old anyway, that way you don't get there and demote because your players don't have level 72 equipment, and spend their first season of plateau back in a lower league.

Huh? An under 440 day old team in the WL has just as much right to be there as a team over 500 days old.. If teams at the over 480 days old can't make it in WL, who's to say an under 440 can't.. I apologize if it sounds like an attack, but I have to defend my young team.. We over achieve and try to force teams to game plan.. Anyway, what does this have to do with promoting and changing the National Pro's.. Hell, it's the teams that don't want to game plan, they are the culprits here right.. I still say it needs to be handled at the RPL level to make the National Pro's more competitive..



Winning a shitty Pro league gives you the right to be in the WL but it doesnt mean you belong (will have any chance to stay there). It would be a waste of your time since you would demote and then waste a prime season dominating said shitty Pro league instead of competing against the best in the WL with you prime roster.

Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.
I can go with this, but it still needs to be dealt with at the RPL level not National Pros... We don't need to be adding more Leagues for gosh sakes, we can barely fill rosters around here, we should be taking..

Who said anything about adding more leagues? We are talking about stratifying the existing leagues more. You still end up with the same number of leagues - 9. Instead of 1-8, you are 1-2-6. Although I prefer that it be 1-2-4.

Originally posted by lardaddy
why not take those best teams and group them together? makes it more fun for them and more fun for those other 24 teams that otherwise have no shot

+1, That is why I love the changes....Minors Elite Rules...lets keep that momentum going.

These feeder Leagues, branching leagues, whatever we want to call them, it all sounds like a farming system.. National Pro's then WL, that's it.. Anything below needs to be dealt with.. These leagues are for the big boys, the ones who have worked to be here.. If we need to extend the off season, fine.. If promoting teams need to be done after a recruiting period of 8 days or day 48 with penalty, fine.. It just doesn't need to be changed.. A couple intimidated teams shouldn't spoil the bunch or apples or yeah..

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
No. Right now we have an auto-promote all the way to Regional.

Then regional is a complete screw up. I GM a team that won conference championship in competitive National Semi-Pro and now it is in regional Pro elite with a bunch of level 56-59 players.

You automatically go to Regional Pro.
Regional Pro promotion/demotion is then horizontal.

There is only National Pro and WL above it, and with the huge number of teams and the large amount of teams that quit or intentionally demote to start over from National Pro, teams get in without earning a spot there.

Right now the only league you have to earn a vertical promotion to is WL.



They really need to go to a dual promotion system that promote lateral and then vertical once you reach the regional pro level. This would require a few more seasons of player plateau, but I think that is needed anyway. If once you promoted to the regional pros you went across from normal to elite and then up to the National feeder/hemisphere idea, it would smooth things out in the whole pro layout.

But as I said, it would take 3-4 extra plateau seasons and a bit more attention in the off-season by the GLB powers to put the teams in the right league. I think that is one of the biggest problems we have now, the utter lack of effort to put teams in the proper leagues.

Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.
Huh? An under 440 day old team in the WL has just as much right to be there as a team over 500 days old.. If teams at the over 480 days old can't make it in WL, who's to say an under 440 can't.. I apologize if it sounds like an attack, but I have to defend my young team.. We over achieve and try to force teams to game plan.. Anyway, what does this have to do with promoting and changing the National Pro's.. Hell, it's the teams that don't want to game plan, they are the culprits here right.. I still say it needs to be handled at the RPL level to make the National Pro's more competitive..

If you make it, you have the right to be there. However, what has typically happened to teams that made it to WL before the majority could boost to level 72?

They failed to make the playoffs.

Then the team is forced to decide - do we send our excellent dots that were in WL at level 70 down to play in Pro and make our way back up next season, or do we disband the team so the dots can stay in WL now that they are going to be level 73 and have level 72 gear.

Even if the team owner wants to hold the team together, he is typically going to find that there are agents on the team that want off so they can keep their players in WL.

Rage for admin

Originally posted by Raiders12
I think that is one of the biggest problems we have now, the utter lack of effort to put teams in the proper leagues.

+100000

Great idea +1

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Who said anything about adding more leagues? We are talking about stratifying the existing leagues more. You still end up with the same number of leagues - 9. Instead of 1-8, you are 1-2-6. Although I prefer that it be 1-2-4.

I'm not seeing anyone complain to much in the Pro's about structure, really.. They know they deserve to be there, they know competition will be rough, they know what happens when they lose to much.. If it ain't broke why fix it.. If you made it to WL, you get demoted, and do a little ass kicking in Pro's, doesn't mean the competition is broke, just means your hungry to get back up there.. I just don't think we need to go and change the structure, because lack of competition..

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
+1, first, and great idea. Although it would be cool to name them something different then "National Pro Elite"....but those are semantics.

And for each region to have a customizable trophy (gif). I had a thread on it somewhere a few seasons ago..............all of the Pro leagues at the time loved the idea and samples were made.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3437991

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
If you make it, you have the right to be there. However, what has typically happened to teams that made it to WL before the majority could boost to level 72?

They failed to make the playoffs.

Then the team is forced to decide - do we send our excellent dots that were in WL at level 70 down to play in Pro and make our way back up next season, or do we disband the team so the dots can stay in WL now that they are going to be level 73 and have level 72 gear.

Even if the team owner wants to hold the team together, he is typically going to find that there are agents on the team that want off so they can keep their players in WL.

impatience in the game, has killed it..