WEA 1 hasn't played its Week 7 games yet, so I don't have all the data yet for Week 7. Hopefully, I'll be able to do it tonight, because if not, it won't be until Sunday that I can get to it.
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Can we have an official bracket then, because imo it isn't right to keep putting together the matchups that one person wants to see. I've never seen any tournament where they change the brackets every round except to re rank the teams so that the highest team gets to play the lowest seed remaining.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
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Originally posted by iguazu_cn
WEA 1 hasn't played its Week 7 games yet, so I don't have all the data yet for Week 7. Hopefully, I'll be able to do it tonight, because if not, it won't be until Sunday that I can get to it.
Cool. Those WEA1 people mess up the whole system! Let's move them to Canada.
WEA 1 hasn't played its Week 7 games yet, so I don't have all the data yet for Week 7. Hopefully, I'll be able to do it tonight, because if not, it won't be until Sunday that I can get to it.
Cool. Those WEA1 people mess up the whole system! Let's move them to Canada.
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Originally posted by robelder
Can we have an official bracket then, because imo it isn't right to keep putting together the matchups that one person wants to see. I've never seen any tournament where they change the brackets every round except to re rank the teams so that the highest team gets to play the lowest seed remaining.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
All i know is you guys need to make up your mind. If you read what I wrote before the tournament started I said the games would be decided after each round to avoid teams playing interleague games as long as possible. It has nothing to do with what games I or anyone else wants to see. I have payed 0 attention to any team outside WEA6 and really have no clue which matchups would be the "have to see games". I am doing the best I can with this. If I was setting this up the way I wanted I wouldn't have played the Smokers first I would have picked the weekest team in this. There are 32 teams involved and the majority do not want to play interleague unless absolutely neccesary. I know people are going to say well we are 3rd in the power rankings how are we playing the 8th place team when 28 30 and 62 are still in. Well it is because people don't want to play interleague. Except Robelder. This tournament was built for fun. if you have the best team you will probably win it. It shouldn't matter who you have to beat to get there. This is the first time this has been done. If it is done again next season I am sure it can be better planned and set up better. just for you though I will not release any more round 2 games untill the rest are complete. I will then look over the power rankings and try to put teams against each other to fit the rankings. The game that is already scheduled will be kept the same.
Can we have an official bracket then, because imo it isn't right to keep putting together the matchups that one person wants to see. I've never seen any tournament where they change the brackets every round except to re rank the teams so that the highest team gets to play the lowest seed remaining.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
All i know is you guys need to make up your mind. If you read what I wrote before the tournament started I said the games would be decided after each round to avoid teams playing interleague games as long as possible. It has nothing to do with what games I or anyone else wants to see. I have payed 0 attention to any team outside WEA6 and really have no clue which matchups would be the "have to see games". I am doing the best I can with this. If I was setting this up the way I wanted I wouldn't have played the Smokers first I would have picked the weekest team in this. There are 32 teams involved and the majority do not want to play interleague unless absolutely neccesary. I know people are going to say well we are 3rd in the power rankings how are we playing the 8th place team when 28 30 and 62 are still in. Well it is because people don't want to play interleague. Except Robelder. This tournament was built for fun. if you have the best team you will probably win it. It shouldn't matter who you have to beat to get there. This is the first time this has been done. If it is done again next season I am sure it can be better planned and set up better. just for you though I will not release any more round 2 games untill the rest are complete. I will then look over the power rankings and try to put teams against each other to fit the rankings. The game that is already scheduled will be kept the same.
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Rob it doesnt matter what the official bracket is. Why are you making a big deal of it all of a sudden? I thought this was "fun" for you.
The reason is, alot of teams in each division havent played each other yet for their regular season games. For example, Loch Ness and Marcy of WEA3 are both undefeated and have their game coming up. Playing them prior to the regular season game will give each team more information than they previously had.
Jay, continue going along like you were. You are doing a great job. Rob is just whining. This is all for good fun.
The reason is, alot of teams in each division havent played each other yet for their regular season games. For example, Loch Ness and Marcy of WEA3 are both undefeated and have their game coming up. Playing them prior to the regular season game will give each team more information than they previously had.
Jay, continue going along like you were. You are doing a great job. Rob is just whining. This is all for good fun.
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Originally posted by robelder
Can we have an official bracket then, because imo it isn't right to keep putting together the matchups that one person wants to see. I've never seen any tournament where they change the brackets every round except to re rank the teams so that the highest team gets to play the lowest seed remaining.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
Who the fuck cares man? This tournament means nothing. Quit boo hooing. If your scared your going to lose to a better team, be a man and come out and say it.
Like Rick Flair says, to be the best, you have to beat the best.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Who cares if you get matched up against a tougher team. Means if you win its that much better.
Can we have an official bracket then, because imo it isn't right to keep putting together the matchups that one person wants to see. I've never seen any tournament where they change the brackets every round except to re rank the teams so that the highest team gets to play the lowest seed remaining.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
Who the fuck cares man? This tournament means nothing. Quit boo hooing. If your scared your going to lose to a better team, be a man and come out and say it.
Like Rick Flair says, to be the best, you have to beat the best.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Who cares if you get matched up against a tougher team. Means if you win its that much better.
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I read that about trying not to play interconference, but I was under the impression that meant for the first round, which is obvious. Why would we want to use our friendlies on teams we already play.
You could just switch out similar teams or you could spread the teams out far enough from each other in the first round so they wouldn't meet for a while.
It just isn't right to remake the matchup without a system. I know you took that personally, and I apologize, but I hope you can understand from the other side of the boat, that it seems fishy when their is no forumula for who plays each other.
Yes I would love to see the best teams meet in the finals as opposed to the second round. That way if you finish second you feel like you were the second best team. As it stands the 2 best teams may meet in the second or third round and then teams in the finals that had an easier schedule with say, hey I'm the second best team or third best and really they aren't. This only determines #1, not anything else. For everyone else it doesn't say much.
Don't be offended, I'm only trying to help stop a lot of problems before they happen. I appreciate your time and effort on this, but this caught me way off guard. No tournaments are run without an exact system for how to pair teams. The best tournaments are the ones that put the best 2 teams against each other in the finals.
I don't care who we play in the tournament, but I'm very much for a fair system. I'm not claiming to be the best or anything or even expecting that (my team is, but I'm just having fun). That being said, I'm a man of principle.
You could just switch out similar teams or you could spread the teams out far enough from each other in the first round so they wouldn't meet for a while.
It just isn't right to remake the matchup without a system. I know you took that personally, and I apologize, but I hope you can understand from the other side of the boat, that it seems fishy when their is no forumula for who plays each other.
Yes I would love to see the best teams meet in the finals as opposed to the second round. That way if you finish second you feel like you were the second best team. As it stands the 2 best teams may meet in the second or third round and then teams in the finals that had an easier schedule with say, hey I'm the second best team or third best and really they aren't. This only determines #1, not anything else. For everyone else it doesn't say much.
Don't be offended, I'm only trying to help stop a lot of problems before they happen. I appreciate your time and effort on this, but this caught me way off guard. No tournaments are run without an exact system for how to pair teams. The best tournaments are the ones that put the best 2 teams against each other in the finals.
I don't care who we play in the tournament, but I'm very much for a fair system. I'm not claiming to be the best or anything or even expecting that (my team is, but I'm just having fun). That being said, I'm a man of principle.
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It doesnt matter man. It was made clear that round 2 would be worked so same conference teams didnt play each other. If you didnt agree with that, you should not have entered.
Your the only one on here complaining, Im pretty sure noone else cares enough to complain about it. This is for fun.
Your the only one on here complaining, Im pretty sure noone else cares enough to complain about it. This is for fun.
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Originally posted by Tothehouse
Originally posted by robelder
Can we have an official bracket then, because imo it isn't right to keep putting together the matchups that one person wants to see. I've never seen any tournament where they change the brackets every round except to re rank the teams so that the highest team gets to play the lowest seed remaining.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
Who the fuck cares man? This tournament means nothing. Quit boo hooing. If your scared your going to lose to a better team, be a man and come out and say it.
Like Rick Flair says, to be the best, you have to beat the best.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Who cares if you get matched up against a tougher team. Means if you win its that much better.
Dude, don't cuss at me. I am here to have fun, but I'm standing up for the principle of the matter and I think the rules have changed midstream. I don't like that. I never read anything about changing the brackets in round two.
Originally posted by robelder
Can we have an official bracket then, because imo it isn't right to keep putting together the matchups that one person wants to see. I've never seen any tournament where they change the brackets every round except to re rank the teams so that the highest team gets to play the lowest seed remaining.
I'm not trying to get that to happen, but I their needs to be a fair way of advancing teams and this seems chaotic and could be viewed as showing favoritism.
If you didn't want teams to play each other they, should have been setup that way in the beginning, not changed once the tournament started.
I'm trying to be respectful all the way here, but this is not right. I could care less who I play, but however it is setup it needs to stay that way. You're asking for some big complaints from tons of people and rightfully so.
Who the fuck cares man? This tournament means nothing. Quit boo hooing. If your scared your going to lose to a better team, be a man and come out and say it.
Like Rick Flair says, to be the best, you have to beat the best.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Who cares if you get matched up against a tougher team. Means if you win its that much better.
Dude, don't cuss at me. I am here to have fun, but I'm standing up for the principle of the matter and I think the rules have changed midstream. I don't like that. I never read anything about changing the brackets in round two.
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Originally posted by Tothehouse
Just a request. I am not sure how other owner's/GM's feel but it would probably be for the best to not schedule teams in the same division in the opening bracket. I know for WEA3 that Loch Ness hasnt played Marcy or Manchester yet this season. I dont mind simming if its later in the bracket if it works that way but early on I would prefer not to give either one of them input into our potential matchup.
Just a request. I am not sure how other owner's/GM's feel but it would probably be for the best to not schedule teams in the same division in the opening bracket. I know for WEA3 that Loch Ness hasnt played Marcy or Manchester yet this season. I dont mind simming if its later in the bracket if it works that way but early on I would prefer not to give either one of them input into our potential matchup.
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Originally posted by Jayadano78
The second round is not set. I will try and make sure teams from the same leagues avoid each other as long as possible. Once round one is complete I will assign games that are still against other leagues as much as possible.
I was under the impression that you would switch a team only if they were in the same division, not switch all games. I must have really misunderstood.
The second round is not set. I will try and make sure teams from the same leagues avoid each other as long as possible. Once round one is complete I will assign games that are still against other leagues as much as possible.
I was under the impression that you would switch a team only if they were in the same division, not switch all games. I must have really misunderstood.
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Wouldn't it make since to keep the brackets and only switch teams in the second round if they were from the same league with another similarly ranked team? That was my impression.
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Don't you want the best teams to make it to the 4th and 5th round? I don't want 3 of the best 4 teams to have already played in round 2 and 3.
If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.
If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.
Originally posted by robelder
Wouldn't it make since to keep the brackets and only switch teams in the second round if they were from the same league with another similarly ranked team? That was my impression.
It would but, for some reason I can't open the brackets that Ig made therefor I have no clue what they look like.
Wouldn't it make since to keep the brackets and only switch teams in the second round if they were from the same league with another similarly ranked team? That was my impression.
It would but, for some reason I can't open the brackets that Ig made therefor I have no clue what they look like.
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Originally posted by robelder
Don't you want the best teams to make it to the 4th and 5th round? I don't want 3 of the best 4 teams to have already played in round 2 and 3.
If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.
not really, we just want you to stop complaining.
Don't you want the best teams to make it to the 4th and 5th round? I don't want 3 of the best 4 teams to have already played in round 2 and 3.
If we are going to have a bragging rights tournament, then second place and third and fourth will mean a lot to teams once we get there.
not really, we just want you to stop complaining.
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