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Originally posted by MontaviousX
Show me the videos where each of those photos was taken from. You and I both know that that post is bullshit. But also, you keep deflecting.

The whole "Elon did a Nazi salute" is bullshit as well--that's my point. I don't dissect every single body movement to judge the quality of one's character. That's the point you're making, right?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
The whole "Elon did a Nazi salute" is bullshit as well--that's my point. I don't dissect every single body movement to judge the quality of one's character. That's the point you're making, right?

What about him speaking in front of an extreme far-right group in Germany, telling them there shouldn’t be any guilt because of the holocaust? Literally days before the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

Originally posted by MontaviousX
What about him speaking in front of an extreme far-right group in Germany, telling them there shouldn’t be any guilt because of the holocaust? Literally days before the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

"Far-Right" is thrown around WAY too much nowadays. Joe Rogan - Far right extremist according to legacy media. So it's hard to judge what that means when you see it now. Also why would they feel any guilt? THEY didn't kill anyone, SOME of their ancestors did almost 100 years ago. Pretty simple, no reason or need to feel any guilt about something you personally didn't do.

Originally posted by OrigJoker
"Far-Right" is thrown around WAY too much nowadays. Joe Rogan - Far right extremist according to legacy media. So it's hard to judge what that means when you see it now. Also why would they feel any guilt? THEY didn't kill anyone, SOME of their ancestors did almost 100 years ago. Pretty simple, no reason or need to feel any guilt about something you personally didn't do.

Unless you're still following the same playbook, repeating the same lines, flying the same flags, and wearing the same tattoos with the same goals in mind.

Originally posted by OrigJoker
"Far-Right" is thrown around WAY too much nowadays. Joe Rogan - Far right extremist according to legacy media. So it's hard to judge what that means when you see it now. Also why would they feel any guilt? THEY didn't kill anyone, SOME of their ancestors did almost 100 years ago. Pretty simple, no reason or need to feel any guilt about something you personally didn't do.

Godwin's Law might as well be amended to include "Far Right" since nobody invoking it wishes to use the term correctly.

Believe in law and order? "Far Right".

Believe in Christianity? "Far Right".

Believe in locking one's doors at night, and the country's borders? "Far Right".

Believe in the right to free speech, the right of assembly, the right to freedom of religion (and from religion), and the right of a free press? NOBODY CARES because they've already declared you to be "Far Right".

Its a rubbish cycle of lame diversion of whatever topic is at hand.

You know who the last "Hitler" was? Literally...HITLER.

There may have been worse people, there may BE worse people, but the moment one drags the name "Hitler" into a conversation, the conversation has been broken beyond repair. "Far right" now is just as *pointless* in conversations, because those who wield it are (by and large) dishonest whores.

Originally posted by atlbruce
Unless you're still following the same playbook, repeating the same lines, flying the same flags, and wearing the same tattoos with the same goals in mind.

Agreed....However

Here is the AFD Parties (the one in question) manifesto/guide.

Not surprisingly this looks a lot like a normal conservative playbook. Nothing "far" on either side but they aren't liberal so they must be extremists. They are being compared to Nazi's because they want to get rid of immigrants/immigration into their country because it's not going well the last 10 or so years.

This is the problem with the labels that everyone seems to use nowadays....They lose ALL meaning when people cry wolf over and over.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Godwin's Law might as well be amended to include "Far Right" since nobody invoking it wishes to use the term correctly.

Believe in law and order? "Far Right".

Believe in Christianity? "Far Right".

Believe in locking one's doors at night, and the country's borders? "Far Right".

Believe in the right to free speech, the right of assembly, the right to freedom of religion (and from religion), and the right of a free press? NOBODY CARES because they've already declared you to be "Far Right".

Its a rubbish cycle of lame diversion of whatever topic is at hand.

You know who the last "Hitler" was? Literally...HITLER.

There may have been worse people, there may BE worse people, but the moment one drags the name "Hitler" into a conversation, the conversation has been broken beyond repair. "Far right" now is just as *pointless* in conversations, because those who wield it are (by and large) dishonest whores.

What would you consider “far right” then?

But I agree, the terms get thrown around far too much on each side. Far-Right, Extremist, radical, etc.

We have let politics divide us as a whole, and people who truly are in the “middle” of all this are becoming the lost population. The middle/lower class has been decimated. My household makes, what our parents would have considered a “strong middle class wage”, and yet we still struggle. The cost of education is outrageous, the cost of everything is outrageous. But if anyone talks about raising wages, the main rebuttal is “but how will the corporations survive!!?” Meanwhile, the same corporations are raking in record profits and passing the wealth along to the CEO’s. “But higher wages will make prices go up!” Prices have continued to go up for years. Yet, wages remain largely unchanged.

There’s so much that the majority of Americans, when sat down at a table, could agree on, yet we are surrounded by propaganda to cause division. And if you don’t think it’s happening, listen to how people with influence talk about “lesser thans”.

Originally posted by OrigJoker
https://www.afd.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/2017-04-12_afd-grundsatzprogramm-englisch_web.pdf

Since Larry loves bringing these guys up in defense of Musk

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/alternative-germany-afd-party-what-you-need-know

So, let’s use a little logic. Larry uses the ADL’s “defense” of Musk as proof he didn’t do a nazi salute

The ADL says AfD is an extremist right-wing group that downplays the history of the holocaust

Musk spoke at an AfD rally, echoing the sentiments of the party.

Originally posted by MontaviousX
Since Larry loves bringing these guys up in defense of Musk

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/alternative-germany-afd-party-what-you-need-know

So, let’s use a little logic. Larry uses the ADL’s “defense” of Musk as proof he didn’t do a nazi salute

The ADL says AfD is an extremist right-wing group that downplays the history of the holocaust

Musk spoke at an AfD rally, echoing the sentiments of the party.

Ok, so downplaying an event from 80+ years ago that almost nobody alive today took part in is a bad thing? You are supposed to learn from the past and move on, which is exactly what their party is trying to do. The ADL calls them extreme because they don't give into their victimhood.

Also....I'm not Larry

Originally posted by OrigJoker
Ok, so downplaying an event from 80+ years ago that almost nobody alive today took part in is a bad thing? You are supposed to learn from the past and move on, which is exactly what their party is trying to do. The ADL calls them extreme because they don't give into their victimhood.

Also....I'm not Larry

I’m pretty sure we shouldn’t downplay the fucking holocaust. Yeah. That’s one of those things that shouldn’t just be a “oh yeah, that kinda happened” moments in history. They also support targeted deportation of specific minority groups, and routinely use Nazi slogans.

But you know, it’s totally normal for non-Nazi’s to use Nazi slogans, right?

Originally posted by OrigJoker
Agreed....However

Here is the AFD Parties (the one in question) manifesto/guide.

Not surprisingly this looks a lot like a normal conservative playbook. Nothing "far" on either side but they aren't liberal so they must be extremists. They are being compared to Nazi's because they want to get rid of immigrants/immigration into their country because it's not going well the last 10 or so years.

This is the problem with the labels that everyone seems to use nowadays....They lose ALL meaning when people cry wolf over and over.

Whatever. I'm less concerned about the growing acceptance of fascist authoritarianism in Germany that I am in my own country.

Originally posted by MontaviousX
I’m pretty sure we shouldn’t downplay the fucking holocaust. Yeah. That’s one of those things that shouldn’t just be a “oh yeah, that kinda happened” moments in history. They also support targeted deportation of specific minority groups, and routinely use Nazi slogans.

But you know, it’s totally normal for non-Nazi’s to use Nazi slogans, right?

Who is downplaying it? All Elon said was that people now should not feel guilty for something they didn't have any part of. Pretty simple logic actually...

Everything is a Nazi slogan according to our media so again.....zero cares go cry wolf somewhere else. The "specific groups" your talking about are Muslims and they have had nonstop troubles since letting them in so they want to fix it. Sounds reasonable to me, If we had a specific group...Let's say MS-13 gang members causing trouble and we deport them are we targeting people from El Salvador or are we getting rid of gang members? Depends on how you want to look at it right...

Originally posted by atlbruce
Whatever. I'm less concerned about the growing acceptance of fascist authoritarianism in Germany that I am in my own country.

Exactly what do you mean by that ridiculously overused and misunderstood term? Less government power = less authoritarianism/fascism. No matter what side of politics your on you should actually LOVE what Elon is doing because we have needed this for at least the 40 years I have been paying attention. I don't care who does it as long as it gets done.

Originally posted by atlbruce
Whatever. I'm less concerned about the growing acceptance of fascist authoritarianism in Germany that I am in my own country.

Which is why you should be happy about the direction of our country and recent election of DJT. As fundamentally speaking fascism is characterized by an expansion of centralized government which by all account Trump is actively dismantling. Unless you are simply a 🦜 who just regurgitates his teams sound bites.