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Tomcic
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Originally posted by VenomCoach
Congrats to Alamo for being the only one seed left.

Computer guys getting advantage by doing computer things, sucks. Finding this was possible, immediately sucked most of the joy out of the game. Still went 1-2 in the first round. GL going forward to anyone not using it.

Putting Power HB at TE no biggie. Easily handled with proper tagging and DAI. Hint last one for TE's is Any. Want to bet your playoffs on that tactic good luck you have to win 4 straight doing it. Only 1-2 in the first round.

The real dirty trick is how RC can make sure I don't game plan vs him in the playoffs. S108 Hospital Infection, S109 Infection Relapse, S110 he mixes it up with Food Poison. That being said I am glad I'm not playing him twice in S110 playoffs, I don't think my body could handle it.




Speedy recovery bud and hope you are feeling better

Originally posted by GroupOh
hope you are feeling better... this script shows the coverage progressions too or just the play itself?


Here a small summary, description for dummys:
- It recreates a D play based on different set of parameters in the backend of the D play during play by play.
- Only works for public games since they are accesible without a user being logged in.
- It's either first m2m assignment based on a position or zone immediately in a specific zone.
---It DOESN'T recreate exact zone assignments. The tweaking (deep, medium, shallow) or final assignment on m2m(zone set as default) I do myself based on the tape.
---It DOESN'T recreate m2m assignments such as HB Strong,FB weak etc, only pure ones such as HB, FB, TE.

Hope this answers your question.

I wrote the script as a hobby prior GLB data crash. I gave it to two loyal agents a week ago since they wanted to get back into coordinating and then can use it for our teams as they wish. For the tweaking of a play they message me via discord.
The most important part: I know they won't share my IP (intellectual property) without my consent. Greasemonkey scripts have been part of the game for a long time, some used for dotbuilders, some for coordinators.

And if you don't like it, there is always time to enhance your programming skills and feel free to write the code and solve this problem yourself.
 
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Tell us about the script you use to tell Bort which leagues to place all of your teams..
 
Tomcic
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Originally posted by Pwned
Tell us about the script you use to tell Bort which leagues to place all of your teams..


Ahh right, totally forgot. Offseason is swapping season Keep whining
 
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Originally posted by Tomcic
Here a small summary, description for dummys:.


Good morning! I'm the leader of the dummies and had to read it 12x to understand half of what you're saying. I'm an outsider to the Pro community but wondering if this is the fixed "Monsterkill Scout" (been 10+ years since I saw it, I may have butchered the name) script that used to work way way back in the day, say seasons 12-35 and then it just disappeared from public use?

Have so many questions and I know you have no obligation to answer - When you say "it recreates a D", are you saying it'll build plays from replays in the DPC for you to look at?

Question 2: where's the line to become a trusted agent? Mama said the answer is always no when you don't ask



 
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Originally posted by Pwned
Tell us about the script you use to tell Bort which leagues to place all of your teams..


you find a partner willing to swap with

pretty straight forward
 
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Anyone can make a script or copy a script or data mine. This is a computer game, there will always be more talented people than others that can excel. This isn’t a democracy and no one is required to share all their resources.

Although it sucks that some people have more time than others. My issue is with people purposely moving positions around for no other reason than to trick a DAI.

Maybe I’m being naive, and maybe some of us just suck at making DAI’s(me). I just support people playing the game and not playing the code.

I’m sure I just over reacted and didn’t do my own research on what happened. I’ve played a lot of games where people rely on exploiting instead of playing the game and it just wrecks everything.

Is there any legitimate reason for putting a power HB at TE? Does he have good blocking or receiving? Not trying to just target this specific example Tom, because lord knows we all have done this stuff or taken advantage when we see a chance.

And hell, for all I know this was trick vs trick and all is fair in love and war.


TLDR, don’t exploit in a non-scrimmage game. Utilize scripts if you aren’t, because everyone else is.
 
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Originally posted by melon27
Anyone can make a script or copy a script or data mine. This is a computer game, there will always be more talented people than others that can excel. This isn’t a democracy and no one is required to share all their resources.

Although it sucks that some people have more time than others. My issue is with people purposely moving positions around for no other reason than to trick a DAI.

Maybe I’m being naive, and maybe some of us just suck at making DAI’s(me). I just support people playing the game and not playing the code.

I’m sure I just over reacted and didn’t do my own research on what happened. I’ve played a lot of games where people rely on exploiting instead of playing the game and it just wrecks everything.

Is there any legitimate reason for putting a power HB at TE? Does he have good blocking or receiving? Not trying to just target this specific example Tom, because lord knows we all have done this stuff or taken advantage when we see a chance.

And hell, for all I know this was trick vs trick and all is fair in love and war.


TLDR, don’t exploit in a non-scrimmage game. Utilize scripts if you aren’t, because everyone else is.


https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4861872&playoffs=0

he has 40 receptions
 
PeeJJK
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Tom in playoffs = gimmick, just a matter of which one he chooses to try. And like others have said in this thread, he went 1-2 in round 1, so not very effective and likely pretty time consuming to search for those holes to exploit. If you've been gimmicked by someone, just take it as a compliment that they know they can't beat you using normal tactics and planning, and have to resort to the cheap stuff.
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4861872&playoffs=0

he has 40 receptions


0 targets in that game, 0 games where he had a catch and also played TE either, but nice try
 
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Originally posted by PeeJJK
Tom in playoffs = gimmick, just a matter of which one he chooses to try. And like others have said in this thread, he went 1-2 in round 1, so not very effective and likely pretty time consuming to search for those holes to exploit. If you've been gimmicked by someone, just take it as a compliment that they know they can't beat you using normal tactics and planning, and have to resort to the cheap stuff.


https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=53956

what gimmick did we use to beat you in the tourney?
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=53956

what gimmick did we use to beat you in the tourney?


Originally posted by PeeJJK
Tom in playoffs = gimmick.


Said nothing about any lolTourney games, ginger.
 
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Originally posted by melon27
I just support people playing the game and not playing the code.

... I’ve played a lot of games where people rely on exploiting instead of playing the game and it just wrecks everything.



The way I'm seeing the script is that it's saving time is all - there's nothing the script is doing that coordinators can't do by just watching replays, I think. Replays show you who's in Man, who's in Zone. The script being super valuable in that you don't have to cross check against other replays using the same D call in an effort to verify if a dot is in Man or Zone. But if you're, lets say, in prison and have all the time in the world... your recreation of a D play might even be more accurate just by watching the replay a few times.

I don't think it's an exploit, more of a huge time-saver. And since the script doesn't tell you who's in Shallow, Medium, etc when assigned zone, anyone can come out with the same play just by watching a play 10x. Even knowing what dot is "cover zone immediately" is usually quite obvious as well.

Anyway, just an outside peasant here looking in.

Edited by dusk883 on Dec 17, 2024 07:50:22
 
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About to put a TE at HB and rush
 
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Originally posted by VenomCoach
immediately sucked most of the joy out of the game


This is the only reason anyone cares. Not the first person I've heard say something like this.

Losing a round 1 playoff game as a 3 seed, in the team's first Pro season, in a world where there's not even a CL/WL anymore, who cares?

The gimmicks and the scripts are causing some of the few people that are left who care about this game to lose interest, that's why I care. We need our people.
 
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