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Originally posted by TDiddy8701
Can someone clarify if this means plays set in the playbook as short, or pass plays that are already pre-defined as a short pass play? I can't tell from this post which it is

i dont think slightly meant much as i used short designations on short playbook passes and took a bunch of sacks like i was running 4 or 5 wide all day long.

Originally posted by McLovinCowboys
i wonder now many points we can save in conditioning and stamina, damn this is so OP.

I have this on a few of my guys and it does fire a lot but honestly I don't see it really helping anything......It fires almost every play but hasn't really improved there coverage.....I could be wrong and will compare last seasons stats to this, but Its definitely not looking OP.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/555770/69802

This play covert expert seemed good, my guy isnt fast at all, but is hard to tell how much slower he would be.

LOL my punter just won 10 achievements in one game, my first punter, rookie.

Anyone still yet know for certain whether the short passing change means pre-set if they are short, if if the change was short as set as short in your specific playbook?

I would guess what you set it as.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I would guess what you set it as.

I would guess the opposite, as if it is what you would set it as, I think there also would have been a statement about "very short pass" as well

still waiting on clarification....

Doesn't make any sense to be what we set, otherwise every pass would get the bonus, it gotta be the default when you search the play.

Originally posted by McLovinCowboys
Doesn't make any sense to be what we set, otherwise every pass would get the bonus, it gotta be the default when you search the play.

Isn't this how the defensive play bonus works though? It is what you set it as? I didn't study that much though.

Well, you can tell offense is back when you see a 60 speed TE do this: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/554950/513489

I was just hoping for a balance between both sides of the ball, I don't like it when some formations (like 2TE) or plays have no real counter.

My understanding of it is you get a bonus for guessing run or pass. Distance determines the cushion.

-- Man defenders now adjust cushion based on the distance tag of the play called
-- All defenders now get a slight bonus to all skills if defensive play type matches the offensive play (run/pass)

Distance would not factor into the play guessing, so yes all pass or run plays would get the bonus. Unsure of inside/outside run.

So a short pass play would get the pass bonus (pass) with a short coverage cushion (short).

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
My understanding of it is you get a bonus for guessing run or pass. Distance determines the cushion.

-- Man defenders now adjust cushion based on the distance tag of the play called
-- All defenders now get a slight bonus to all skills if defensive play type matches the offensive play (run/pass)

Distance would not factor into the play guessing, so yes all pass or run plays would get the bonus. Unsure of inside/outside run.

So a short pass play would get the pass bonus (pass) with a short coverage cushion (short).



Right.

While defense needed dialed back, instead of a slight roll back to try and affect a balance we went back to favoring offense heavily again... trying to defend some of these combos and formations are back to being impossible, so you can only to hope to contain some of the plays while hoping others do not get called to expose the hole in your gameplans (I really wish there was a decent defense vs 2TE and the ilk). It's more like a few seasons back that everyone hoped for before the passing OP we had... so I'm back to the headaches of trying to do defense.

But like I said, if this is what everyone wants so they will keep playing, then so be it. It's just frustrating for a defense guy like me.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
Right.

While defense needed dialed back, instead of a slight roll back to try and affect a balance we went back to favoring offense heavily again... trying to defend some of these combos and formations are back to being impossible, so you can only to hope to contain some of the plays while hoping others do not get called to expose the hole in your gameplans (I really wish there was a decent defense vs 2TE and the ilk). It's more like a few seasons back that everyone hoped for before the passing OP we had... so I'm back to the headaches of trying to do defense.

But like I said, if this is what everyone wants so they will keep playing, then so be it. It's just frustrating for a defense guy like me.

I don't want it. I could actually defense 2TEs last season, now it's back to not a single decent defensive play.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I don't want it. I could actually defense 2TEs last season, now it's back to not a single decent defensive play.

Last season was the first and only time since season 7 that I could defend 2TE set consistently.

I think this season is the best we've had as far as balance.