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Originally posted by Mysterio
I think the best solution would be to only allow the goal line formation to be used inside the 20. Teams could no longer rely on the play for sole offense, and it becomes much simpler to defend. Of course, the other QB outside run plays would need to be fixed to give running QBs a viable option. Currently, literally none of them work.

totally agree on nearly all points you made. also about the buff other QB runs. but tge solution should only be a momenrum fix to stop the exploit. After that it just needs a buff to the defense rather than nerfing the play

Originally posted by Xavori
IotB,

Yorick's data is going to be all kinds of skewed. Yorick opened against a CPU team and blew them up. Then we played Columbus who basically used the default goal line defensive playbook and blew them up too.

But when we played Detroit and Lincoln City, the numbers get more in line with reality as both those teams are good.

I just posted the team data for fun. I don't think we have enough data points to draw real conclusions for all the reasons I've stated. Stobie is looking at it from a macro perspective, which is fine, I just think it needs to be weighted by the capability of the defense for the defense play called to have more meaning as to the effectiveness of the GL QB Rollout. At least with the first set of data, people can see (as you've been saying for a while now) what plays are effective in stopping it. Which again depends on the defense dots having adequate skills to do so as well.

I wonder how many big yardage gains on QB Roll out include a broken tackle compared to every other run play in the game? like a 5% vs 75?

Originally posted by Mezirah
I wonder how many big yardage gains on QB Roll out include a broken tackle compared to every other run play in the game? like a 5% vs 75?

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/60111/671007

Did you see all those broken tackles on that play?

Originally posted by bhall43
So you are going to pick a team from a tier in which I have no affiliation to whatsoever? lol

you can take over my defense for that scrim, no problem bud

I haven't been looking at anything man. I'm just piling on.

Iotb I had no reason to store lolbar values for scouting purpose as they are not accurate enough and only can be obtained by matchup screens.

i just looked. Zero ?

Originally posted by HayRow
you can take over my defense for that scrim, no problem bud

To stop one play? Ya that would be pretty simple.

Lolbars are extremely useless as it is just your default depth chart. It doesn't factor in anything of relevance at all.

pick a play Bhall - I'll set it up for spam

Originally posted by Mezirah
I wonder how many big yardage gains on QB Roll out include a broken tackle compared to every other run play in the game? like a 5% vs 75?

I could store number of missed tackles per play. Might be a good metric to have. Would have to rerun all to get that. Hurries is another thing I would have to add. It's a string find rather than attribute given by GLB code

Originally posted by bhall43
Lolbars are extremely useless as it is just your default depth chart. It doesn't factor in anything of relevance at all.

In addition teams with 2qb passing bars are higher than ones with 1. Doesn't mean more effective.

Originally posted by TxSteve
pick a play Bhall - I'll set it up for spam


I don't know of another play in the book I can't stop using a couple different plays in the playbook. But I'll be home in an hour to set up for whatever play he thinks works anywhere near as well as the 2 gl plays.

Ok - Hayrow - sounds like you get to pick the spam play