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Originally posted by LordEvil
It fell on def ears eh? The ONLY person in gold with two teams is yours. Whats sad is you went through with it after complaining so much about that exact thing. I believe quite a few of us owners/coordinators could easily beat up on some silver and land a 2nd or 3rd team in Gold. Would seem pretty silly and greedy to me. I think your full of excuses bud, you been planning that all along. Otherwise there was no reason to buy custom EQ on your silver team. Congrats, hope you feel proud of yourself. Kind of hard letting new talent in the league when there is one less spot to a new team because someone can't control their ego. Well like they say, it's your money

My barking on the subject of having an owner with two teams fell on deaf ears in S20. Hell, most people said to quit whining and deal with the fact that RK was good enough to field two Gold teams. No one backed me in S20, so I gave up.

But now that I am able to do it myself, people are starting to voice their objections? Where were these same people in S20 when I brought up the issue?

Am I being a jackass for doing it...hell ya! But others were a jackass to me when I was trying to do the right thing by stopping it. So I will continue to be a jackass until someone ELSE gets involved and puts an end to it.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
To hell with Gold bro. You already went back on your word and now you have a bigger target on your back than stoner. Be like nike and just do it.

I never went back on my word as I never said I wouldn't do it myself, only that I didn't think it was fair.

If me being a target gets others to take action and get policy changed, then GREAT! But until that is done, I will keep TIA in Gold as a No-No team, pending I don't get demoted.

Originally posted by Gerr
Yes it's hypocritical of me to field a 2nd team in Gold after barking so hard in S20 against that very issue. But all that barking fell on deaf ears and I got shit on for my efforts, so I presume people are either for owning a 2nd Gold team, or don't care one way or another.

So yes, I am going to field a 2nd team this season and will continue to do so until someone else takes up the fight against it and gets the admins to change policy.

There was only one owner with two teams in S20 and you whined like a little baby and spammed the entire forum and threw a tantrum to admins and eventually you got what you want it. It's your money, so do whatever you want but you come out as a douche bag when you go entirely opposite of what you preach.

Only reason you were barking back then wasn't because of the issue, it's because you got humiliated by a no/no team and just wanted to save face. Just admit it and let's get this over with.

Ill just throw this out there...


Why are you guys so bent about this, when you guys are all on the same teams anyway. so many of the gold teams have you guys all over them. big deal he owns two of them....

I understand he rallied against this, and we've butted heads over this in the past, but lots of you guys are doing, or have done extremely similar things.

my 2 cents...commence hating

Originally posted by Gerr
My barking on the subject of having an owner with two teams fell on deaf ears in S20. Hell, most people said to quit whining and deal with the fact that RK was good enough to field two Gold teams. No one backed me in S20, so I gave up.

But now that I am able to do it myself, people are starting to voice their objections? Where were these same people in S20 when I brought up the issue?

Am I being a jackass for doing it...hell ya! But others were a jackass to me when I was trying to do the right thing by stopping it. So I will continue to be a jackass until someone ELSE gets involved and puts an end to it.

No it's not the issue, it's the fact that you continue to contradict your own words. This isn't the first time buddy and I think people are getting tired of your cry baby antics. You can't blame people for telling it as what it is. I remember plenty of people agreeing with you but told you just to quit whining about it and take it to support instead. Eventually you got what you want it, but it's clear that you were just pissed that not only you lost in the playoff but also the fact that you didn't have your 2nd team in gold. We all know you've been trying with TIA for quite sometime but continue to fail until this season.

You were just raging because that team didn't make it to gold. It really all adds up now, no need to explain

1. I was barking well before my loss to your 2nd no-no team. But that loss suddenly gave me the time to step it up a notch since I had no need to spend time game planning any longer, so I did. Sure I was mad at the loss, but you did beat me fair and square and never barked about that. The problem was that any barking of the original issue after my loss was seen as nothing more than me whining about my loss. That wasn't my intention, but try as I might, I couldn't overcome that ignorant assumption, so I let it rest.

2. I purposely didn't game plan for TIA's playoff loss in S20, wasn't trying to take TIA to Gold at that time. Do you think I would have lost if I really wanted to take TIA to Gold? I decided to not game plan and just see what happens. And with my 2nd round Bears loss, I did have plenty of time if I wanted to game plan for TIA's 3rd round game, so it was my choice not to.

3. In S21, I didn't game plan for a single game all season on TIA, only making adjustments to offense & defense when certain plays were nerfed. I used a simple offense and defense that shouldn't have been that good, but TIA ended up having one of the most dominate Silver seasons in recent history. Actually, you should be flattered as most of the plays I ran on TIA in S21 were the top plays MG called in S20. I didn't try to get TIA to Gold, just didn't try to stop them. Actually, I posted the offensive AI I used on TIA on the PW forums in an attempt to share it since it was much better than expected.

And since LE spoke up, let me call out what he and zmj44 did in S21...

On both SBWL & PNP, both fully boosted & CEQ teams, LE was the OC on both and Z was the DC on both, and they fully game planned for nearly every game. Granted one team was owned by LE and the other by Z, but in the end, both teams were under the same management and both were full blown competitive teams.

Is having a 2nd Gold team that I plan on having be a No-No team that wont scout any worse than what LE & Z did in S21? In both cases, 2 teams were run by the same people, but at least in my case, my 2nd team won't be nearly as competitive as my main team. So which is worse?

And would it make any difference if I sold TIA to someone else who in turn just assigned me as the Co-owner or Head Coach? The team would still be run the same.

Difference is, our teams had multiple agents. I only ran the offense for both. I had 3 players I think it was on SB. If I had to stroke my ego, I would make them all. My team has always been open to anyone and everyone. If I had a silver team even heading to the playoffs I would quit that team as I did in season 20. I think you trying to compare the two is fail!

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Originally posted by LordEvil
Difference is, our teams had multiple agents. I only ran the offense for both.

So what you are saying is that a team full of non-boosting and half CEQ'ed players all owned by one agent is superior to a team full of boosted/CEQ'ed players owned by multiple agents?

If that is the case, then why don't I see more single agent No-No teams going far in the Gold playoffs?

I might be alone in this view, but I feel that two full boost/ceq teams sharing both the same OC and DC is far worse than 2 teams(one no-no, one full and with different OC's) sharing one owner.

Think of it this way, in professional sports, no two teams in any sport ever share the same coaching staff, but it is very possible that those teams might share the same owner.

Would people still have a problem if a defensive student of mine took over TIA's defense? So the two teams would share the same owner, but neither the same OC or DC?

Originally posted by Gerr
So what you are saying is that a team full of non-boosting and half CEQ'ed players all owned by one agent is superior to a team full of boosted/CEQ'ed players owned by multiple agents?

If that is the case, then why don't I see more single agent No-No teams going far in the Gold playoffs?

I might be alone in this view, but I feel that two full boost/ceq teams sharing both the same OC and DC is far worse than 2 teams(one no-no, one full and with different OC's) sharing one owner.

Think of it this way, in professional sports, no two teams in any sport ever share the same coaching staff, but it is very possible that those teams might share the same owner.

Would people still have a problem if a defensive student of mine took over TIA's defense? So the two teams would share the same owner, but neither the same OC or DC?

I am coming back as OC next season and working about 10+ gold teams just for you Gerr.

Originally posted by LordEvil
I am coming back as OC next season and working about 10+ gold teams just for you Gerr.

Nothing but love man...

Originally posted by LordEvil
Originally posted by Gerr

So what you are saying is that a team full of non-boosting and half CEQ'ed players all owned by one agent is superior to a team full of boosted/CEQ'ed players owned by multiple agents?

If that is the case, then why don't I see more single agent No-No teams going far in the Gold playoffs?

I might be alone in this view, but I feel that two full boost/ceq teams sharing both the same OC and DC is far worse than 2 teams(one no-no, one full and with different OC's) sharing one owner.

Think of it this way, in professional sports, no two teams in any sport ever share the same coaching staff, but it is very possible that those teams might share the same owner.

Would people still have a problem if a defensive student of mine took over TIA's defense? So the two teams would share the same owner, but neither the same OC or DC?

I am coming back as OC next season and working about 10+ gold teams just for you Gerr.

'gets in line'