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Originally posted by BobbyCox4Pres.
Then we need to change the way promotion is done at the RPL level.. No need to change the National PRO's...

It's kind of hard when the best players in Regional Pro are being farmed for teams already in National Pro and WL. By the time they are ready to play National Pro, they go to the good teams that already exist.


The painful truth is that there aren't enough quality players being made to fill the National Pro's, and there aren't enough quality coordinators to go around.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
I really don't see how changing to an elite tiered system is going to fix anything in the Pros. Change for the sake of change is not always a good thing. We will only be having this same conversation in a couple seasons if this crazy change is applied.

It's not to make an "elite tiered system" it is to get teams of the same quality playing each other with a vertical rather than horizontal promotion system.

Basically we go back to having to earn your way up those last few rungs.

Originally posted by We_Rule
Depends on your definition smart guy. Does the #16 team have a chance to beat the #1 team every season....... hell no. But do the Mice win every season without competition? I think you KNOW the answer to that one.



I'd be happy if the #7 & 8 teams had a chance to beat the #1 and 2 teams, but we don't have that in Pro right now.

Originally posted by beenlurken
I prefer this too... but there are just too many whiners that want the high turnover because without which they would never make WL.

You can't stagnate at the top. You need the high turnover, otherwise you will make recruitment even worse than it already is for the higher leagues and less and less interest in the game as a whole.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
It's not to make an "elite tiered system" it is to get teams of the same quality playing each other with a vertical rather than horizontal promotion system.

Basically we go back to having to earn your way up those last few rungs.

So keep the regions and just make regional and national tiered so that teams can earn their way in.

Oh, wait isn't that how it is now? We only gave the system one season and we call it a failure? We really should not wake Catch up early anymore. Let him sleep.

Originally posted by Raiders12
You can't stagnate at the top. You need the high turnover, otherwise you will make recruitment even worse than it already is for the higher leagues and less and less interest in the game as a whole.

Teams that are almost WL playoff teams should be given another chance to hang around. I'm not saying that you keep 28 of the 32 teams, but 20 instead of 16 makes sense.

Originally posted by Raiders12
You can't stagnate at the top. You need the high turnover, otherwise you will make recruitment even worse than it already is for the higher leagues and less and less interest in the game as a whole.

Personally, I think 25% of a league is decent turnover. 50% and you end up just bouncing teams down that are going to go right back up.

An interesting idea would be to have the top 3 teams from each conference promote and have the bottom 6 teams from each WL demote.

The teams that make CCG are in.

Then you have the 2 teams that lose in the conference semi-finals play each other for the last spot.

looks like this is going to happen!

Could we please stop shuffling leagues.

I am already seeing people talking about quitting because of this thread. This is not a good idea. I hate losing teammates that boost.

Originally posted by We_Rule
Originally posted by lardaddy

anybody who says the Pro leagues, as they are now, are competitive, is completely delusional

Depends on your definition smart guy. Does the #16 team have a chance to beat the #1 team every season....... hell no. But do the Mice win every season without competition? I think you KNOW the answer to that one.



come after me if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that in each Nat'l Pro league there's [maybe] 8 teams that don't have to worry about GP'ing for anybody else in their league beyond those other 7 teams

why not take those best teams and group them together? makes it more fun for them and more fun for those other 24 teams that otherwise have no shot

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
If you think you are taking a team of dots that are younger than 400 days old to the WL you are kidding yourself.

You really don't want to get there until most of your dots are 440 days old anyway, that way you don't get there and demote because your players don't have level 72 equipment, and spend their first season of plateau back in a lower league.

Huh? An under 440 day old team in the WL has just as much right to be there as a team over 500 days old.. If teams at the over 480 days old can't make it in WL, who's to say an under 440 can't.. I apologize if it sounds like an attack, but I have to defend my young team.. We over achieve and try to force teams to game plan.. Anyway, what does this have to do with promoting and changing the National Pro's.. Hell, it's the teams that don't want to game plan, they are the culprits here right.. I still say it needs to be handled at the RPL level to make the National Pro's more competitive..

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by Raiders12

You can't stagnate at the top. You need the high turnover, otherwise you will make recruitment even worse than it already is for the higher leagues and less and less interest in the game as a whole.

Personally, I think 25% of a league is decent turnover. 50% and you end up just bouncing teams down that are going to go right back up.

An interesting idea would be to have the top 3 teams from each conference promote and have the bottom 6 teams from each WL demote.

The teams that make CCG are in.

Then you have the 2 teams that lose in the conference semi-finals play each other for the last spot.

That would be ideal!!

"(we can work on the regions that are used here, this is just the general concept being outlined)

Western Hemisphere Feeder leagues
North America
South America
Europe

Eastern Hemisphere Feeder leagues
Oceania
Africa
Asia"

I don't think this set-up is really going to work. You can't have Europe and North America (USA and Canada) in the same hemisphere. Those three regions will have the majority of region requests and if teams can't get into the region and hemisphere they want because of it, your just adding more problems than solving anything.