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Can't really defend outlawz on this one, but for Botswana to call him out is almost as hypocritical as him calling out Zambia. Half of Botswana's passes were at the end of the 2nd quarter and 4th quarter, when they couldn't afford to rush. Had the roles been reversed and Botswana had lead the majority of the game, it looks like the passing numbers could easily have been reversed.

What people are ignoring is that the Spider Monkeez scoring drives were an average of 48.4 yards , only 2 out of 5 were more than 45 yards, and the longest was only 62.5 yards. Botswanas scoring drives were an average of 71.6, with 3 drives longer than 80, including a 92 yard drive. Botswana got dominated on special teams. Give anyone that kind of field position differential and a turnover advantage, and the other team is going to be fighting to keep up, and most likely passing a lot more. Both teams were almost identical as far as rushing numbers, but 1 team had to go ~26 yards further to score every drive.

Originally posted by greedo909
Can't really defend outlawz on this one, but for Botswana to call him out is almost as hypocritical as him calling out Zambia. Half of Botswana's passes were at the end of the 2nd quarter and 4th quarter, when they couldn't afford to rush. Had the roles been reversed and Botswana had lead the majority of the game, it looks like the passing numbers could easily have been reversed.

What people are ignoring is that the Spider Monkeez scoring drives were an average of 48.4 yards , only 2 out of 5 half were more than 45 yards, and the longest was only 62.5 yards. Botswanas scoring drives were an average of 71.6, with 3 drives longer than 80, including a 92 yard drive. Botswana got dominated on special teams. Give anyone that kind of field position differential and a turnover advantage, and the other team is going to be fighting to keep up, and most likely passing a lot more. Both teams were almost identical as far as rushing numbers, but 1 team had to go ~26 yards further to score every drive.

lol, I was watching the game this morning and thought it was very funny as well. BB would have ran about 80% Strong I Slam if they weren't passing to close out the half...

Well said greedo!!


Originally posted by greedo909
Can't really defend outlawz on this one, but for Botswana to call him out is almost as hypocritical as him calling out Zambia. Half of Botswana's passes were at the end of the 2nd quarter and 4th quarter, when they couldn't afford to rush. Had the roles been reversed and Botswana had lead the majority of the game, it looks like the passing numbers could easily have been reversed.

What people are ignoring is that the Spider Monkeez scoring drives were an average of 48.4 yards , only 2 out of 5 half were more than 45 yards, and the longest was only 62.5 yards. Botswanas scoring drives were an average of 71.6, with 3 drives longer than 80, including a 92 yard drive. Botswana got dominated on special teams. Give anyone that kind of field position differential and a turnover advantage, and the other team is going to be fighting to keep up, and most likely passing a lot more. Both teams were almost identical as far as rushing numbers, but 1 team had to go ~26 yards further to score every drive.

Can't we just all get along

Seriously guys, this season's sim sucks. It's really not about game planning anymore, it's about who's got the power back to run the SI all day. It really sucks but what can you do? My team (#8 seed) in SEAPL got SI slammed by the #1 seed, it sucks, but I don't blame them, I probably should have done the same, what the hell was I thinking only running SI like 50% of the time?

You can't blame the teams for doing it, it does give them the best chance to win. Look around GLB, not just in APL, I'd bet most games are SI slam fests. This is just a sad season, the worst ever in GLB, I'm just glad that it's almost over.

To the remaining playoff teams, best of luck. Remember to run SI slam and hang on to the ball.

And to all the DCs, get ready for SI slams.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Originally posted by greedo909

Can't really defend outlawz on this one, but for Botswana to call him out is almost as hypocritical as him calling out Zambia. Half of Botswana's passes were at the end of the 2nd quarter and 4th quarter, when they couldn't afford to rush. Had the roles been reversed and Botswana had lead the majority of the game, it looks like the passing numbers could easily have been reversed.

What people are ignoring is that the Spider Monkeez scoring drives were an average of 48.4 yards , only 2 out of 5 half were more than 45 yards, and the longest was only 62.5 yards. Botswanas scoring drives were an average of 71.6, with 3 drives longer than 80, including a 92 yard drive. Botswana got dominated on special teams. Give anyone that kind of field position differential and a turnover advantage, and the other team is going to be fighting to keep up, and most likely passing a lot more. Both teams were almost identical as far as rushing numbers, but 1 team had to go ~26 yards further to score every drive.

lol, I was watching the game this morning and thought it was very funny as well. BB would have ran about 80% Strong I Slam if they weren't passing to close out the half...

Wrong. If you guys are gonna talk, at least get your facts right. You said half our passes were at end of halves, not true. We passed 31 times, 3 were at the end of the 1st half, and 8 were at the end of the 2nd half. That is basically 1/3 of our passes. Every other pass play we ran was in a situation where we would have ran the ball had we implemented a Str I offense.

Did we run a lot of Str I runs? Yes, but we are and always have been a running team. Let's look at our running game, we ran the ball 47 times of which 38 were Str I and 9 were normal I. Our offense, taking out the all passing at end of halves, was 32% passing and 68% running which is in line with the type of offense we've always ran. In S7, we passed 35% of the time and in the Conference playoffs, we passed 22% of the time. We have ran more this season than last, but everyone has with how the passing game has sucked. Combining the fact that our offensive percentages are in line with normal percentages along with the fact that we passed when a Str I "exploit" offense would have CLEARLY ran, it is pretty plain and easy to see that we were not running an "exploit" offense.

The biggest challenge with your posts, however; is that you guys have TOTALLY missed the point of my original post:

Originally posted by majech
Spider Monkeez exploited us. It wouldn't have surprised me, if it weren't for how "opposed" to it they were.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2299715
Remember that? Outlawz called TUC everything but a red-headed step-child for doing the Strong I exploit in a REGULAR SEASON GAME. Looks like Outlawz showed his true colors today. Pretty disappointed to see him do that actually.

Someone said that winning that way would feel better than losing that way. I disagree. Now that I speak from experience, I'd much rather have lost a game like that, than won a game like that.

I called Outlawz out for ripping TUC's ass for running the "exploit" offense against them in a regular season game then turning around and running the exact same offense in the playoffs. I'm not bitching that some team ran the exploit offense on us, I'm not bitching that we lost, I'm calling Outlawz out for being a hypocrite.

Greedo, I agree with you 100% when you said "Can't really defend outlawz on this one." I can't believe people are defending him. To do what he did to TUC and then turn around and do the same thing on an even grander scale is pathetic.

Originally posted by datongw
Can't we just all get along

Seriously guys, this season's sim sucks. It's really not about game planning anymore, it's about who's got the power back to run the SI all day. It really sucks but what can you do? My team (#8 seed) in SEAPL got SI slammed by the #1 seed, it sucks, but I don't blame them, I probably should have done the same, what the hell was I thinking only running SI like 50% of the time?

You can't blame the teams for doing it, it does give them the best chance to win. Look around GLB, not just in APL, I'd bet most games are SI slam fests. This is just a sad season, the worst ever in GLB, I'm just glad that it's almost over.

To the remaining playoff teams, best of luck. Remember to run SI slam and hang on to the ball.

And to all the DCs, get ready for SI slams.

Couldn't agree more. Excellent post.

Originally posted by Lensar
Originally posted by SuperHawks


Good luck going forward, but I really do hope that TLGoT does the exact same thing to you guys.

They've done it to us the last few times we've played over the past two seasons, including last year's playoffs. You may have missed it since we didn't come to cry about it on the forums though.


I'm sorry but you are either truly stupid, or you are just a blatant liar. Not sure which it is at this point, but judging by your responses so far I think it is the former. If you can't tell the difference between what TLGoT did to you last season in the playoffs (23 Strong I Rushes out of 73 total plays) compared to what you did to us (84 Strong I rushes out of 94 total plays) then you are a lost cause and deserve absolutely no respect.

I am gonna laugh my ass off next season when bort fixes this glitch, and we beat the living hell out of you once again.

Originally posted by SuperHawks
Originally posted by Lensar

Originally posted by SuperHawks



Good luck going forward, but I really do hope that TLGoT does the exact same thing to you guys.

They've done it to us the last few times we've played over the past two seasons, including last year's playoffs. You may have missed it since we didn't come to cry about it on the forums though.


I'm sorry but you either are truly stupid, or you are just a blatant liar. Not sure which it is at this point, but judging by your responses so far I think it is the former. If you can't tell the difference between what TLGoT did to you last season in the playoffs (23 Strong I Rushes out of 73 total plays) compared to what you did to us (84 Strong I rushes out of 94 total plays) then you are a lost cause and deserve absolutely no respect.

I am gonna laugh my ass off next season when bort fixes this glitch, and we beat the living hell out of you once again.

I'm thinking truly stupid with a little lying mixed in to make himself look better.

Alright, I wasn’t even going to post in here, but damn maj – you’re killing me here!
We already spoke after the game through PM’s & I actually apologized for running a Strong I based offense, didn’t I? Yet you still feel the need a day later to continue to rip me on the forum?

You keep referring to this thread …

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2299715&page=2

& I don’t blame you. Did I call Zambia out? Yes. Did I agree with what they did? No. Do I still feel the same way about running an offense like that? Yes.
BUT … maj – take a look at the very first post on page 2 of that thread (don’t care enough to go quote it) – YOU were the one defending TUC & actually called it “good game planning”!! Why such a change of heart now? I don’t get it. I also spoke with TUC the next day through PM’s & apologized for going overboard in that thread. We’re cool now, so no need for you to be blasting me about something that has nothing to do with you.

I felt like running out of the Strong I formation gave us the best chance to win, so we went with it – that’s it. Nothing personal man. I actually wish it wouldn’t have been you that we did it to, but after the Zambia game, & after reading all of the different opinions on it - I also talked to several other owners & agents in different Leagues & the way they put it was that everybody will be doing it in the playoffs & I would be stupid not to run out of Strong I if I wanted to win. Well, I decided that they were right & that for our first playoff game (no matter who we played) we were gonna run the majority of our running plays out of Strong I. So we did. You did the same damn thing.

Then you guys keep saying that we ran an “exploit” offense & ran one play all game long … not true, no we didn’t. We ran out of the same FORMATION most of our running plays, but we did not just use the same play every time. There were several keys to that game – it wasn’t just the Strong I runs that won us the game.

Again, it wasn’t anything personal man, I’ve always had tons of respect for the Bugeaters & for you maj – I told you that in my PM’s already. I just wanted to win a playoff game against one of our biggest rivals, so I put in a game plan that I thought could work. I that offends you, then I don’t think there is anything I can say to you at this point.

Originally posted by Outlawz
Alright, I wasn’t even going to post in here...

Actually you have already posted here.

Originally posted by Outlawz


We already spoke after the game through PM’s & I actually apologized for running a Strong I based offense, didn’t I? Yet you still feel the need a day later to continue to rip me on the forum?

Yes you did apologize, doesn't mean it wasn't bush league. A lot of what I've posted has been defending Bots against ludicrous statements such as these...

Originally posted by outlawz
You did the same damn thing.

I believe about 75% of your offense was a Str I run. We did nothing of the sort. (you can refer to one of my recent posts which lays out the numbers.

Originally posted by outlawz
Then you guys keep saying that we ran an “exploit” offense & ran one play all game long … not true, no we didn’t. We ran out of the same FORMATION most of our running plays, but we did not just use the same play every time. There were several keys to that game – it wasn’t just the Strong I runs that won us the game.

I have not said you ran one play, I've said you ran the strong I exploit. You ran a combo of the Slam and the OT play, not much difference in those plays. And you are correct, there were several keys to that game, of which the Str I runs were by far the greatest factor.

You went snake oil salesman. You did the very thing you admittedly despise, just so you could try for a cheap win against a team you "respect"? ROFL. What a load of crap. That's the biggest issue I have with the whole situation, had you not presented this illusion of respect for me and my team and blown TUC up, I'd wouldn't have been offended by your GP...at all.

Originally posted by majech
Originally posted by Outlawz

Alright, I wasn’t even going to post in here...

Actually you have already posted here.

Originally posted by Outlawz



We already spoke after the game through PM’s & I actually apologized for running a Strong I based offense, didn’t I? Yet you still feel the need a day later to continue to rip me on the forum?

Yes you did apologize, doesn't mean it wasn't bush league. A lot of what I've posted has been defending Bots against ludicrous statements such as these...

Originally posted by outlawz

You did the same damn thing.

I believe about 75% of your offense was a Str I run. We did nothing of the sort. (you can refer to one of my recent posts which lays out the numbers.

Originally posted by outlawz

Then you guys keep saying that we ran an “exploit” offense & ran one play all game long … not true, no we didn’t. We ran out of the same FORMATION most of our running plays, but we did not just use the same play every time. There were several keys to that game – it wasn’t just the Strong I runs that won us the game.

I have not said you ran one play, I've said you ran the strong I exploit. You ran a combo of the Slam and the OT play, not much difference in those plays. And you are correct, there were several keys to that game, of which the Str I runs were by far the greatest factor.

You went snake oil salesman. You did the very thing you admittedly despise, just so you could try for a cheap win against a team you "respect"? ROFL. What a load of crap. That's the biggest issue I have with the whole situation, had you not presented this illusion of respect for me and my team and blown TUC up, I'd wouldn't have been offended by your GP...at all.


Maj, you are probably the biggest whiner I have ever encountered. Still carrying this thread on page twelve. Find a hobby, my man.

Originally posted by majech
Originally posted by Parab00n

Originally posted by greedo909


Can't really defend outlawz on this one, but for Botswana to call him out is almost as hypocritical as him calling out Zambia. Half of Botswana's passes were at the end of the 2nd quarter and 4th quarter, when they couldn't afford to rush. Had the roles been reversed and Botswana had lead the majority of the game, it looks like the passing numbers could easily have been reversed.

What people are ignoring is that the Spider Monkeez scoring drives were an average of 48.4 yards , only 2 out of 5 half were more than 45 yards, and the longest was only 62.5 yards. Botswanas scoring drives were an average of 71.6, with 3 drives longer than 80, including a 92 yard drive. Botswana got dominated on special teams. Give anyone that kind of field position differential and a turnover advantage, and the other team is going to be fighting to keep up, and most likely passing a lot more. Both teams were almost identical as far as rushing numbers, but 1 team had to go ~26 yards further to score every drive.

lol, I was watching the game this morning and thought it was very funny as well. BB would have ran about 80% Strong I Slam if they weren't passing to close out the half...

Wrong. If you guys are gonna talk, at least get your facts right. You said half our passes were at end of halves, not true. We passed 31 times, 2 were at the end of the 1st half, and 8 were at the end of the 2nd half. That is LESS than 1/3 of our passes. Every other pass play we ran was in a situation where we would have ran if we were in an all Str I offense.

Did we run a lot of Str I runs? Yes, but we are and always have been a running team. Let's look at our running game, we ran the ball 47 times of which 38 were Str I and 9 were normal I. Our offense, taking out the all passing at end of halves, was 25% passing and 75% running which is in line with the type of offense we've always ran. In S7, we passed 35% of the time and in the Conference playoffs, we passed 22% of the time. We have ran more this season than last, but everyone has with how the passing game has sucked. Combining the fact that our offensive percentages are in line with normal percentages along with the fact that we passed when a Str I "exploit" offense would have CLEARLY ran, it is pretty plain and easy to see that we were not running an "exploit" offense.

The biggest challenge with your posts, however; is that you guys have TOTALLY missed the point of my original post:

Originally posted by majech

Spider Monkeez exploited us. It wouldn't have surprised me, if it weren't for how "opposed" to it they were.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2299715
Remember that? Outlawz called TUC everything but a red-headed step-child for doing the Strong I exploit in a REGULAR SEASON GAME. Looks like Outlawz showed his true colors today. Pretty disappointed to see him do that actually.

Someone said that winning that way would feel better than losing that way. I disagree. Now that I speak from experience, I'd much rather have lost a game like that, than won a game like that.

I called Outlawz out for ripping TUC's ass for running the "exploit" offense against them in a regular season game then turning around and running the exact same offense in the playoffs. I'm not bitching that some team ran the exploit offense on us, I'm not bitching that we lost, I'm calling Outlawz out for being a hypocrite.

Greedo, I agree with you 100% when you said "Can't really defend outlawz on this one." I can't believe people are defending him. To do what he did to TUC and then turn around and do the same thing on an even grander scale is pathetic.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I count 4 at the end of 2nd and 9 at the end of the 4th(spiking is a pass) for 13--thats 42%. I'll point out one more thing--the Monkeez never ran on a 3rd an 5 or longer(except when running the clock out in the 4th). Here's another percentage for you, 29% (14) of our rushes were on the final drive when running out the clock, which most teams would do anyways.

Yes the numbers look damning, but both teams were in different scenarios the entire game. The gameplans were similar, but one team was behind and one team had a lead to sit on(and were virtually never in 3rd and long), where passing in short yardage or on 1st down was an unnecessary risk. Had the Spider Monkeez not completely dominated on special teams, they would have had more obvious passing downs.

Am I denying outlawz ran an offense that took advantage of the sim, no. At the same time I think theres a clear distinction between outlawz gameplan and Zambia's 1 money-play gameplan.

Originally posted by majech
I'm thinking truly stupid with a little lying mixed in to make himself look better.

With a dash of self-delusion for good measure.

Originally posted by Outlawz

BUT … maj – take a look at the very first post on page 2 of that thread (don’t care enough to go quote it) – YOU were the one defending TUC & actually called it “good game planning”!! Why such a change of heart now? I don’t get it.


this was not addressed

lmao, what happened to the over-cocky Majech who said they could take that play and stop it and he would run a play that couldn't be stopped over and over as well? You want to talk about Kalk crying last season? At least his was one post, your fucking vagina has been hurting for 2 days now.