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Originally posted by Merik
interception skill alone wont grant you interceptions, just like d-line's pass deflection skill wont do much alone

What else plays into the dline PRDeflect roll? I've heard vertical doesn't play a part.

Originally posted by Merik
interception skill alone wont grant you interceptions, just like d-line's pass deflection skill wont do much alone

This. On top of that you have to be placed in the right places.

fwiw, not one of my CB's based on intercepting are without an INT this season despite many of them playing along side each other. Almost all of my CB's not based on intercepting have 0 INT's this season.

Originally posted by kaiijy
The problem is not if there are interceptions or not. There are interceptions, less than should be, but they happen. My issue is with the investment to become a heavy intercepter, since non-investment characters nail interceptions often (one of my LBs – http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/86850 –, for example, got 2 interceptions as Rookie and 2 as Sophomore with Intercepting 9 and Deflecting 11. He even got trophies both seasons), so often it doesn't seem worthy to spend points in one of the most expensive skills of the game. Just doesn't pay off.

Same goes for fumbles. These both situations, most of the time, seem more related to the bad luck/skills of the offense rather than the skills of the defense.


Interceptions have alot to do with being positioned correctly with good footwork as well as having good INT and deflection skills.

Vader has 3 INTs on the year but only 10 int...his footwork and quickness are 50 though.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player_stats/96515

His 3 INT's are luck based so you aren't doing the conversation any favors there.

Originally posted by bhall43
His 3 INT's are luck based so you aren't doing the conversation any favors there.

No they are not...they are based on high footwork and quickness to get into position for the INT. Guess we will agree to disagree.

Most people push footwork and quickness first just an fyi.

Originally posted by bhall43
This. On top of that you have to be placed in the right places.

fwiw, not one of my CB's based on intercepting are without an INT this season despite many of them playing along side each other. Almost all of my CB's not based on intercepting have 0 INT's this season.

This is definitely true. Meanwhile, my CB still had 60+ Deflecting now. I discussed my experiment here: http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5192582

Overall comparison based on the entire career:

Deflector

Deflecting: 88
Intercepting: 9

Passes allowed: 43%;
Deflected: 22.25/season
Interceptions: 2

Interceptor

Deflecting: 60
Intercepting: 70

Passes allowed: 53%;
Deflected: 7.5/season
Interceptions: 6

I definitely noticed an improved by the first season after pumping Deflecting (3rd).

But, hey, I don't think any of you is wrong, I swear. Of course it takes some great positioning and more skills (specially Deflecting) to get interceptions. I just don't think the investment pays off since it is a hugely expensive skill to spend on that relies heavily on other skills (which you won't be able to spend as much since you're investing in Intercepting) and the outcome doesn't seem to be worthy.

Originally posted by DeeVee8
What else plays into the dline PRDeflect roll? I've heard vertical doesn't play a part.

Pass Rush Power.

It's been noted by Corndog before that diving increases your "tackling radius". I've always assumed that it did the same thing horizontally for deflecting/intercepting chances, as well vertical for stretching that radius on the z axis.

I've never thought a guy with 80/80 deflection/interception would be a great build for coverage if they also had 15/15 vertical/diving. You'd need godly mobility, cov tech, and man awareness to get your tiny little circle of excellent deflection/interception into the right spot to impact a reception.

Stretch out that circle with vertical and diving, and you increase your chances. Same as with diving on tackling.

I probably wouldn't recommend less than 40 diving/tackling for any defensive back or linebacker. Maybe D-linemen too, though perhaps you can argue against vertical there if you don't plan to mess with pass deflection on them.

I think investing some in Int is worth it but I wouldn't invest a bunch.

I have never seen a diving deflection or int.

Originally posted by Galithor
It's been noted by Corndog before that diving increases your "tackling radius". I've always assumed that it did the same thing horizontally for deflecting/intercepting chances, as well vertical for stretching that radius on the z axis.

I've never thought a guy with 80/80 deflection/interception would be a great build for coverage if they also had 15/15 vertical/diving. You'd need godly mobility, cov tech, and man awareness to get your tiny little circle of excellent deflection/interception into the right spot to impact a reception.

Stretch out that circle with vertical and diving, and you increase your chances. Same as with diving on tackling.

I probably wouldn't recommend less than 40 diving/tackling for any defensive back or linebacker. Maybe D-linemen too, though perhaps you can argue against vertical there if you don't plan to mess with pass deflection on them.

I honestly blame Diving for missing tackles at higher levels. The guy dives for the tackle, but he dives slower than the RB runs and there goes a missed tackle.

Originally posted by kaiijy
I honestly blame Diving for missing tackles at higher levels. The guy dives for the tackle, but he dives slower than the RB runs and there goes a missed tackle.

diving impacts your ability to initiate a tackle even when you don't see the diving animation too though. So those times a HB darts right by your LB up the middle, you weren't able to initiate because he was out of your range.

Originally posted by Galithor
It's been noted by Corndog before that diving increases your "tackling radius". I've always assumed that it did the same thing horizontally for deflecting/intercepting chances, as well vertical for stretching that radius on the z axis.

I've never thought a guy with 80/80 deflection/interception would be a great build for coverage if they also had 15/15 vertical/diving. You'd need godly mobility, cov tech, and man awareness to get your tiny little circle of excellent deflection/interception into the right spot to impact a reception.

Stretch out that circle with vertical and diving, and you increase your chances. Same as with diving on tackling.

I probably wouldn't recommend less than 40 diving/tackling for any defensive back or linebacker. Maybe D-linemen too, though perhaps you can argue against vertical there if you don't plan to mess with pass deflection on them.

Your own CBs have diving in the high 20s.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Your own CBs have diving in the high 20s.

The rule to any poster when talking about how well you know builds is to add at least 10 to the subject. Duh.