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Galithor
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Originally posted by NiborRis
I'm pretty sure it impacts your ability to react to the ball, but when you're running with the WR with your back to the QB the difficulty of reacting to the throw or the ball in the air is REALLY high so your awareness doesn't seem to matter much.


I'm not seeing my zone defenders with their face to the ball react all that much differently or better. They're just sometimes out of position on coverage in the "right position" to get a jump interception attempt. They've got fairly common investment in coverage tech at this point I'd guess for rookie corners and safeties.

I get that it says "react to incoming passes" but that sentence continues with "or rush plays". I'm reading that sentence as it determines how quickly the player determines its a pass or run play, and the use of "passes" is just bad grammar. Since it seems like all defenders who aren't blitzing are defaulting to coverage first, it's only functional use is to determine it's a rushing play quickly, and avoid fake SAs.

Thus, in the Air Raid example Adderfist linked above, the only thing my zone coverage built defense gives up by running the M2M defenses is some rushing play reaction time and resistance to pass/route fakes.
Edited by Galithor on Feb 27, 2014 11:26:04
Edited by Galithor on Feb 27, 2014 11:24:18
 
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Corndog might come in here and say I'm wrong, and it does impact how well you react to thrown passes, but I'm gonna have my team operate as if it's simply snap reaction for reading rushing plays with some ability to resist fakes till told otherwise.
 
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I mean, look at the On an Island SA. Sure, it's powered by man coverage awareness. But it's not adding awareness to help you get deflections. It's adding coverage tech and deflection skills.

As far as I'm concerned, cov tech is all that matters for determining how well your CB reacts to stuff in the act of coverage, both before and after the pass is thrown.
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
As far as I'm concerned, cov tech is all that matters for determining how well your CB reacts to stuff in the act of coverage, both before and after the pass is thrown.


I've been thinking this too. Would explain why the awareness skill is so cheap.

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Originally posted by doobas
I've been thinking this too. Would explain why the awareness skill is so cheap.

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yeah, but cov tech is not really that expensive as well
 
Jampy2.0
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Originally posted by pottsman
His point was that in a team that is not built for man, he ran a man defense and completely shut down a good/above average team, showing how overpowered just a few defensive plays are.


I know that, he did not perform many spectacular man defensive plays...

Originally posted by peeti
yeah, but cov tech is not really that expensive as well


no cov tech is middle of the road pricewise... It's not in the speed/power running ballpark, but it definitely isn't awareness cheap.

A while ago an agent said he had the same success with his 50+ man awr CBs as he did with CBs with no man awr investment.

I thought this was a clear sign to everyone that man awareness isn't really man coverage awareness.... It's more like glb1 vision that only activates in man coverage.
Edited by Jampy2.0 on Feb 27, 2014 13:29:09
 
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
A while ago an agent said he had the same success with his 50+ man awr CBs as he did with CBs with no man awr investment.


100% conclusive
 
jfbueno
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You really think somebody would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
 
Jampy2.0
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Originally posted by sunshineduck
100% conclusive


well in hindsight yeah it was pretty accurate

Originally posted by jfbueno
You really think somebody would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?


you would think idiots would keep quiet, but no, you keep posting.
 
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If you were older than 13 you'd realize I just quoted an old internet meme but have at it, call me an idiot for the most stupidest of reasons.
 
Jampy2.0
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Originally posted by jfbueno
If you were older than 13 you'd realize I just quoted an old internet meme but have at it, call me an idiot for the most stupidest of reasons.


I know you quoted what kiolb quoted a few days. How original...

anyway you're still an idiot for poor timing and usage. l2bfunny
 
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I don't even know who kiolb is so I don't see how that's relevant. Even though I didn't see him post anything what does it matter if he posted something before me or not. The meme is older than you are and is still relevant to most of the things you type.
 
Jampy2.0
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Originally posted by jfbueno
The meme is older than you are and is still relevant to most of the things you type.


is it relevant to my s1 championship?
 
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No it's not. But that's probably the only championship AGDTD will have with Funday in your league.
 
Jampy2.0
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Originally posted by jfbueno
No it's not. But that's probably the only championship AGDTD will have with Funday in your league.








that's the laughter of all 42 of my joes on AGD2D
Edited by Jampy2.0 on Feb 27, 2014 20:30:49
 
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