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ghuffman
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Originally posted by jdbolick

The Patriots are exceptional precisely because they find a way to do things that other teams can't. Meanwhile the Tennessee Titans are extremely predictable in terms of what they run out of certain formations. Regardless, you're still missing the point regarding the game mechanic. With a much larger playbook, there is little benefit for the DC to guess what play will be run except perhaps on 3rd/4th down. In the current sim it's more effective to play vanilla defense that will protect against the pass or the pitch. I admit that it's more fun to watch games when a lot of different plays are being called, but it's made DCing into something dreadfully boring. Frankly I don't understand why we didn't get the full DPC back when they expanded playbooks. At least back then creating plays was fun.


In a computer game any team can be the patriots.

okay, now we are back talking about game mechanics not real football. To my point it is only more effective to play a vanilla defense if you don't feel like game planning. You can't cover both the pitch and deep pass at the same time unless you leave the middle wide open, but that comes back to scouting and game planning.

We just completely disagree on this one
 
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I just realized ghuffman has his hands in more wl D ais than anyone on glb yet I have Dced twice as many teams to wl gold than he has, the fact is a cover 3 defense with defenders that can swat the ball and a great pass rush is how you win wl titles, the dc can matter but as ghuffman shows no matter how much work someone does you still need to back it up and all this guy is talk
Edited by Dpride59 on Aug 26, 2012 17:46:21
Edited by Dpride59 on Aug 26, 2012 17:45:28
 
ghuffman
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Originally posted by Dpride59
I just realized ghuffman has his hands in more wl D ais than anyone on glb yet I have Dced twice as many teams to wl gold than he has, the fact is a cover 3 defense with defenders that can swat the ball and a great pass rush is how you win wl titles, the dc can matter but as ghuffman shows no matter how much work someone does you still need to back it up and all this guy is talk


u had some great builds. you are not known for being a good coordinator that's for sure. u were probably the most predictable of all the champs. try again
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
u had some great builds. you are not known for being a good coordinator that's for sure. u were probably the most predictable of all the champs. try again


Theoretically no one has done less with more than you, again you have 1 ring and I have 2 rings despite only dcing about 10 or 11 total times in the wl, you dc that every couple years, yet I have 2 rings when it matters.. Saying I'm predictable is laughable considering in s24 I dominated the wl title game with defense like maybe no other team
 
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Originally posted by Dpride59
Theoretically no one has done less with more than you, again you have 1 ring and I have 2 rings despite only dcing about 10 or 11 total times in the wl, you dc that every couple years, yet I have 2 rings when it matters.. Saying I'm predictable is laughable considering in s24 I dominated the wl title game with defense like maybe no other team


i can only go by what you do on offense and yes your offenses have been predictable.

just bring your team up to WL and walk through it like before since you are so good (i expect undefeated) otherwise, stop talking
Edited by ghuffman on Aug 26, 2012 18:08:44
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
i can only go by what you do on offense and yes your offenses have been predictable.

just bring your team up to WL and walk through it like before since you are so good (i expect undefeated) otherwise, stop talking


I Thought we were comparing dc abilities... Not sure how it ranks overall but in 4 wl playoff games as a DC I gave up 42 pts
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=24&team_id=1656

not sure if its a record but i'd be surprised if any wl champion dc has ever had a better run
Edited by Dpride59 on Aug 26, 2012 18:30:04
 
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Originally posted by Dpride59
I Thought we were comparing dc abilities... Not sure how it ranks overall but in 4 wl playoff games as a DC I gave up 42 pts
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=24&team_id=1656

not sure if its a record but i'd be surprised if any wl champion dc has ever had a better run


that's definitely a good run. i was talking about your offense.

Maybe, that is my problem, i DC too many teams. I am sure it would be different if i focused on one team like you did.
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
that's definitely a good run. i was talking about your offense.

Maybe, that is my problem, i DC too many teams. I am sure it would be different if i focused on one team like you did.


I remember that season, i was wishing we had a better offense to go with my D

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1780062
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
that's definitely a good run. i was talking about your offense.

Maybe, that is my problem, i DC too many teams. I am sure it would be different if i focused on one team like you did.


Well, you have 4 extra chances for success so you can't really discount all the losses.

I'd love to see what it'd be like if you and the DS guys would limit yourself to 1-2 teams in WL and get really invested (well, as much as anyone can be these days in glb)
 
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Originally posted by Bladnach
Well, you have 4 extra chances for success so you can't really discount all the losses.

I'd love to see what it'd be like if you and the DS guys would limit yourself to 1-2 teams in WL and get really invested (well, as much as anyone can be these days in glb)


Would probably be a lot more interesting then simply hedging your bets...
 
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Originally posted by Bladnach
Well, you have 4 extra chances for success so you can't really discount all the losses.

I'd love to see what it'd be like if you and the DS guys would limit yourself to 1-2 teams in WL and get really invested (well, as much as anyone can be these days in glb)


i don't discount any of the losses, but it has to be easier to get 1 team to the playoffs than to get 4 teams
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
i don't discount any of the losses, but it has to be easier to get 1 team to the playoffs than to get 4 teams


not sure if srs
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
i don't discount any of the losses, but it has to be easier to get 1 team to the playoffs than to get 4 teams


 
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Originally posted by Homage
not sure if srs


? 4 into the top 16 or 1 into the top 16
 
Dpride59
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Originally posted by ghuffman
? 4 into the top 16 or 1 into the top 16


you have won 1 time with 4 teams over how many seasons? lol

Winning twice with 1 team is light years more impressive. The least impressive run I ever had when I oc'd/dcd two of the 4 teams into a conference title game and lost the wl title game, the fact was it was twice as easy as I had two test subjects going the entire season (much like you have 4 this season) doing it with 1 and actually dominating is brutal and its why you were never able to do anything with the garudas despite having a top 5 eff level team and many of tauts dots


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Edited by Dpride59 on Aug 26, 2012 19:09:23
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