Warrior General Games

Originally posted by joemalaka
Of course you won't. As I even stated everyone bitches and says they will..but they don't. Hypocrites with no backbone. take your own advice....don't like the service leave.

Thanks for the advice. But to make sure I get it right are you advising me to leave GLB?

Truth is all the new change will be a sight to see. Kinda like the eighth wonder of the world.

You know you remind me of an ex wife that used to stalk me. Kinda scarey O_O

Originally posted by bafore
I am not totally disagreeing with you on this. My side is that I have walked in the new teams shoes at one point and have earned that money.

Now if you want to take it away, I am not for but if they do, you got to make it fair across the board not just new teams. All minors must be adjusted too.

I see your point. I don't completely agree, but see it.

Maybe something like

Lowest minors everyone starts how they are now.

Next level up starts with one (whatever...maybe two, three, etc..) sections built and a bit more cash.

Next level up starts with two levels built and a bit more cash then the level below them.

etc...etc...


I am not all for this but might might be the middle ground needed.

Originally posted by Catch22
We can't really retroactively take money from teams for doing something that wasn't against the rules though. Eventually over the course of 5-10 seasons, these rules will have every one on a level playing field. We're definitely not screwing the next 3 seasons of teams. If anything, we're making it so a new team owner in Cap 14 is competing against other teams that do not have an unfair monetary advantage.

If you want to leave the game because of this decision, that's your right, but this change is for the long term benefit of all of GLB.

So we have to wait 5 seasons for it to "even out". Thats half a year. And about 125000 flex points spent on a full team.

Originally posted by Pantone
The bottom line with all of this is communication. There was no input from owners, just a decision made the admin, but if you are going to completely change the service I signed up for and spent real dollars on, then I should either have the option to cancel my service and be refunded my remaining money (flex dollars) or I should have a say In what happens, simple contract negotiation fellas.

I don't disagree that changes are needs, but I think the majority are right and a complete reboot is needed. It wont happen because with the abundance of flex dollars people will have, no one will buy anymore=Bort makes no $$$$$. These changes aren't about making the game better, it's a band aid fix for now.

The system IS flawed and the flaws continue to create massive changes every off-season, so why not do the sart thing and reboot everything, upload the changes, post a new rulebook and provide the customer service that SHOULD be your top priority. IMO the time spent on this game by all the owners is deserving of a permanent fix. You have had 14 seasons to figure things out., so lets get it figured out and reset it, so we can all get back to having fun.

I'm not against the changes, I think they could make it a better game, but why cause a huge uproar, just reset and let it be, those who want to stay will stay and those who want to leave will leave...

I will get grilled for this post, but then again, when someone doesn't agree they tear you down. And all the people who represent GLB, should act professional and treat the customer w respect. Even if it was humourous, if you worked for a company and someone took it the wrong way, you would have your ass canned. Just a thought!

I'm not saying you don't have a right to voice your concerns or frustrations. It's why this forum exists and why threads like these are allowed to take place.

A full reset simply isn't going to happen - there are just too many logistical issues not to mention it's not something that would receive universal support - it'd probably be 50-50 and we can't alienate half a customer base like that. We simply have to do what we can to improve the current game as best we possibly can.

As for a flex refund, I think any business would tell you that's not only not going to happen but it's not realistic. That's like asking Blizzard to refund you the $150 you paid in monthly subscription fees you paid for the last year because all of a sudden they nerfed your over powered Ranger pet abilities.

Originally posted by Rumble Bee
Thanks for the advice. But to make sure I get it right are you advising me to leave GLB?

Truth is all the new change will be a sight to see. Kinda like the eighth wonder of the world.

You know you remind me of an ex wife that used to stalk me. Kinda scarey o_O

on topic please.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
There is no long term benefit if your losing your steady veteran members and owners. o_O

We're definitely not losing all of our steady veteran members and owners. For every one person who is complaining about this change, there are five who are in favor of it. The loudest people will always be the ones who don't like something.

Originally posted by joemalaka
I see your point. I don't completely agree, but see it.

Maybe something like

Lowest minors everyone starts how they are now.

Next level up starts with one (whatever...maybe two, three, etc..) sections built and a bit more cash.

Next level up starts with two levels built and a bit more cash then the level below them.

etc...etc...


I am not all for this but might might be the middle ground needed.

This is what am talking about.

Originally posted by Pantone
That seems to be the admins response to anything they don't like or agree with, lets lock it down....ridiculous. You pose all these changes and then can't stand to hear the criticism. If you can dish it out without consulting us, then you should be able to take it as well.

Just saying is all!

That response had nothing to do with me not agreeing with some of the things being said in this thread. It had to do with people talking about something completely unrelated to the topic at hand. If I didn't want people to voice their opinions, this thread would have been locked on the first page last night.

The goal of GLB to stop the BS from happening is police it.Find the teams that cause the mess in the 1st place and punish them.
This halfass way of doing things without taking a poll on it just drives me nuts.
Have a poll about future MMO's but not about something serious like this.
Leads me to beleive heads are not on straight and thats scary to know

Originally posted by Catch22
I'm not saying you don't have a right to voice your concerns or frustrations. It's why this forum exists and why threads like these are allowed to take place.

A full reset simply isn't going to happen - there are just too many logistical issues not to mention it's not something that would receive universal support - it'd probably be 50-50 and we can't alienate half a customer base like that. We simply have to do what we can to improve the current game as best we possibly can.

As for a flex refund, I think any business would tell you that's not only not going to happen but it's not realistic. That's like asking Blizzard to refund you the $150 you paid in monthly subscription fees you paid for the last year because all of a sudden they nerfed your over powered Ranger pet abilities.

You are right as well, Im just saying that people who have played by the rules and built something and were going to start season 15 with a rebuild franchise, and had spend the last several seasons paying for the team /building their stadiums are being dealt a big blow. Thats all. Think about it from their end, they paid money for the team, and decided with abunch of owners they wanted to start something special, now they have no distinction from anyone who just walked in and bought a team. It seems pretty unfair, and makes you feel like the last couple of seasons trying out builds and such, while trying to see what worked well, was a complete waste of time. Hopefully the admin can see where those frustrations stem from.

Originally posted by Catch22
We're definitely not losing all of our steady veteran members and owners. For every one person who is complaining about this change, there are five who are in favor of it. The loudest people will always be the ones who don't like something.

Its not a matter of not liking it. Its a matter of GLB wanting to be fair. But only starting now they will be fair. In 3 seasons when we are in a league that has teams from the before its fair time will it be fair then. When I lose my bank roll and they still have theres to buy the EQ for all there players and I have ration out EQ cash.

Change it but think about what you are doing to the new teams to the rule.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
The goal of GLB to stop the BS from happening is police it.Find the teams that cause the mess in the 1st place and punish them.
This halfass way of doing things without taking a poll on it just drives me nuts.
Have a poll about future MMO's but not about something serious like this.
Leads me to beleive heads are not on straight and thats scary to know

Police what? Teams demoting with 80 mil and complete stadium...and a new team with barely anything?

What is to police?

Originally posted by Pantone
You are right as well, Im just saying that people who have played by the rules and built something and were going to start season 15 with a rebuild franchise, and had spend the last several seasons paying for the team /building their stadiums are being dealt a big blow. Thats all. Think about it from their end, they paid money for the team, and decided with abunch of owners they wanted to start something special, now they have no distinction from anyone who just walked in and bought a team. It seems pretty unfair, and makes you feel like the last couple of seasons trying out builds and such, while trying to see what worked well, was a complete waste of time. Hopefully the admin can see where those frustrations stem from.

+1

Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by Team Nucleus

There is no long term benefit if your losing your steady veteran members and owners. o_O

We're definitely not losing all of our steady veteran members and owners. For every one person who is complaining about this change, there are five who are in favor of it. The loudest people will always be the ones who don't like something.

I like change for the better and this ain't it.Search any of my posts I'm always in favor of positive change.This is far from it.
Sorry can't sugar coat this one.Many owners feel the same way as I do.Beleive me when I say MANY.
If the goal is to remove long term owners and replace them with newer owners,then job well done.
Thats pretty much whats gonna happen.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
I like change for the better and this ain't it.Search any of my posts I'm always in favor of positive change.This is far from it.
Sorry can't sugar coat this one.Many owners feel the same way as I do.Beleive me when I say MANY.
If the goal is to remove long term owners and replace them with newer owners,then job well done.
Thats pretty much whats gonna happen.

And believe me when I say many like the change. So what?

You will never make everyone happy with change...never. In the end of the day the owners of a business have to make a decision they feel is best..and then see how it plays out.