Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
We still have S*HBs breaking 40 tackles in a game (see Olympus), despite BW, etc. I still see QBs hit hit open receivers and I see them complete against covered and even double covered WRs. It's not like we don't have QB's completing 60+% of their passes on here. QB's got a passing arc added as well TTN too, there isn't a need for more buffing...if anything I think it's the opposite...they got too much love already in comparison to CBs for example.
Brick Wall works fine. So does Leverage. It's up to teams to use it. All that's being asked for a a counter for a broken passing mechanism.
A QB should be able to pass to an open receiver, yes? I mean I get why you wouldn't be for that, but it's a lot of cheese to watch a pass to a wide open receiver get picked off yards away from a LB with a 1 inch vertical. Would be one thing if they had 80+ Vertical investment and could jump like Michael Jordan lol, but that's not what's going on.
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Both have advantages and disadvantages, but Man's stronger because it is more consistent. I gave up for less yards, had a better def comp %, etc with Man. If you think Zone is stronger atm, its because some of the better players have currently switched over. Who's the best player is irrelevant, there are great players of all types in the HoF. For example, the All-Time LB list has Robs zone LB from pre-nerf, then bhall's man blitzer, then Dredgar's man blitzer, then one of my team's zone lb, then one of my team's blitzers. The point is, its not necessarily the defense so much as whose running it.
Well I didn't say zone was stronger, you said Man is OP, and I was asking why. Zone has better stats now and has been buffed since you ran Man D, so you'll have to explain why Man is OP now.
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As far as Route Elusiveness, it is not very affordable, but Route Tech is. Elusiveness would directly help WRs get open and might open up more guys to using HF which does fire against zone defenders. Route tech to 50 is roughly 5300 points, while Route Elusive to 50 is roughly 10,700 points. Instead of again hardping on zone because it's popular atm, how about we look at something that has been long overdue to be reworked like RE. I think we all should agree on that simple buff.
I find it funny how you're like why mess with passing when it comes to fixing the broken pickoff cheese. But all for buffing route elusiveness since it doesn't impact zones. Route Elusiveness is fine where it is, it's very easy to push high. Good luck to CBs if it got buffed, Cov Tech isn't cheap either.
Power Rushing on a WR though could use a buff though, would make Calvin Johnson builds viable
We still have S*HBs breaking 40 tackles in a game (see Olympus), despite BW, etc. I still see QBs hit hit open receivers and I see them complete against covered and even double covered WRs. It's not like we don't have QB's completing 60+% of their passes on here. QB's got a passing arc added as well TTN too, there isn't a need for more buffing...if anything I think it's the opposite...they got too much love already in comparison to CBs for example.
Brick Wall works fine. So does Leverage. It's up to teams to use it. All that's being asked for a a counter for a broken passing mechanism.
A QB should be able to pass to an open receiver, yes? I mean I get why you wouldn't be for that, but it's a lot of cheese to watch a pass to a wide open receiver get picked off yards away from a LB with a 1 inch vertical. Would be one thing if they had 80+ Vertical investment and could jump like Michael Jordan lol, but that's not what's going on.
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Both have advantages and disadvantages, but Man's stronger because it is more consistent. I gave up for less yards, had a better def comp %, etc with Man. If you think Zone is stronger atm, its because some of the better players have currently switched over. Who's the best player is irrelevant, there are great players of all types in the HoF. For example, the All-Time LB list has Robs zone LB from pre-nerf, then bhall's man blitzer, then Dredgar's man blitzer, then one of my team's zone lb, then one of my team's blitzers. The point is, its not necessarily the defense so much as whose running it.
Well I didn't say zone was stronger, you said Man is OP, and I was asking why. Zone has better stats now and has been buffed since you ran Man D, so you'll have to explain why Man is OP now.
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As far as Route Elusiveness, it is not very affordable, but Route Tech is. Elusiveness would directly help WRs get open and might open up more guys to using HF which does fire against zone defenders. Route tech to 50 is roughly 5300 points, while Route Elusive to 50 is roughly 10,700 points. Instead of again hardping on zone because it's popular atm, how about we look at something that has been long overdue to be reworked like RE. I think we all should agree on that simple buff.
I find it funny how you're like why mess with passing when it comes to fixing the broken pickoff cheese. But all for buffing route elusiveness since it doesn't impact zones. Route Elusiveness is fine where it is, it's very easy to push high. Good luck to CBs if it got buffed, Cov Tech isn't cheap either.
Power Rushing on a WR though could use a buff though, would make Calvin Johnson builds viable
Edited by BoDiddley on Dec 15, 2021 19:24:58
