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kaiijy
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Just make Opportunist work

Golded that crap, triggers 2-4 times a game and never earns a single damn fumble.
 
Parab00n
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Corndog,

Any chance you can give us a sneak peak on what is in the plans for this off season/next season?
 
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Originally posted by kaiijy
Golded that crap, triggers 2-4 times a game and never earns a single damn fumble.


My teams are fumbling a lot more than they've used to in these past two games
 
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
My teams are fumbling a lot more than they've used to in these past two games


Just looking at Storm he is at about the same Fumble pace as he was last season.
Edited by Parab00n on Nov 30, 2014 12:03:34
 
o The Boss x
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
My teams are fumbling a lot more than they've used to in these past two games


 
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
My teams are fumbling a lot more than they've used to in these past two games


qft
 
kaiijy
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
My teams are fumbling a lot more than they've used to in these past two games


But how many by Opportunist? Or even characters with Strip Tech investment? Strip Tech suffers from the same problem as Intercepting, it's so random that characters without investment drastically distort the data, then they're too expensive to justify the boost.
 
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Originally posted by kaiijy
But how many by Opportunist? Or even characters with Strip Tech investment? Strip Tech suffers from the same problem as Intercepting, it's so random that characters without investment drastically distort the data, then they're too expensive to justify the boost.


well now you are asking the wrong person, not like he knows what the defenders skills are. And interception seems to work fine more annoyed with how easy it is to complete passes, i've made a returner back up for a team, he's currently playing cpu with 13 rec hands 12 cit and he caught 33,8% passes this season. Havent invested in any receving skills
 
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Originally posted by Merik
well now you are asking the wrong person, not like he knows what the defenders skills are. And interception seems to work fine more annoyed with how easy it is to complete passes, i've made a returner back up for a team, he's currently playing cpu with 13 rec hands 12 cit and he caught 33,8% passes this season. Havent invested in any receving skills


33.8% is not good.
 
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Originally posted by Merik
well now you are asking the wrong person, not like he knows what the defenders skills are.


If you don't say who is the right person, it is kinda pointless, uh?

Originally posted by Merik
And interception seems to work fine...


The problem is not if there are interceptions or not. There are interceptions, less than should be, but they happen. My issue is with the investment to become a heavy intercepter, since non-investment characters nail interceptions often (one of my LBs – http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/86850 –, for example, got 2 interceptions as Rookie and 2 as Sophomore with Intercepting 9 and Deflecting 11. He even got trophies both seasons), so often it doesn't seem worthy to spend points in one of the most expensive skills of the game. Just doesn't pay off.

Same goes for fumbles. These both situations, most of the time, seem more related to the bad luck/skills of the offense rather than the skills of the defense.
 
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Originally posted by kaiijy
The problem is not if there are interceptions or not. There are interceptions, less than should be, but they happen. My issue is with the investment to become a heavy intercepter, since non-investment characters nail interceptions often (one of my LBs – http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/86850 –, for example, got 2 interceptions as Rookie and 2 as Sophomore with Intercepting 9 and Deflecting 11. He even got trophies both seasons), so often it doesn't seem worthy to spend points in one of the most expensive skills of the game. Just doesn't pay off.

Same goes for fumbles. These both situations, most of the time, seem more related to the bad luck/skills of the offense rather than the skills of the defense.


1-2 interceptions through luck rolls isn't exactly what I would call nailing interceptions too often. Especially when you consider that those luck rolls are coming in rookie where the QB's have terrible skills to boot.

I think intercepting certainly does its job when you place guys in positions to do so. Obviously it is working for some guys who are capturing 6-12 interceptions in a season. You start making it so that guys with 80 intercept are getting 15 interceptions averaged a season well then we are having the wrong conversation on where to take the running game. Better up the ante on what an investment of 80+ intercept takes too.
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
33.8% is not good.


when considering he hasn't invested in catching the ball and assume he's covered and that the QB isn't perfect either.... i would say that's way too high
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
1-2 interceptions through luck rolls isn't exactly what I would call nailing interceptions too often. Especially when you consider that those luck rolls are coming in rookie where the QB's have terrible skills to boot.

I think intercepting certainly does its job when you place guys in positions to do so. Obviously it is working for some guys who are capturing 6-12 interceptions in a season. You start making it so that guys with 80 intercept are getting 15 interceptions averaged a season well then we are having the wrong conversation on where to take the running game. Better up the ante on what an investment of 80+ intercept takes too.


When every player with no investment has a chance to get 1-2 interceptions a season and a player with lots of investment gets 4-5 tops, that's a problem. Again, Intercepting is one of the most expensive skills in the game. And your first sentence in the first paragraph proves my point that most of the time these events occur more based on the offense fragility rather than the defense skill.

A vet CB with 36 intercepting made 6 this season (it's the first CB with an open build in the HOF, can't paste links from the tablet). My J CB with 70 Intercepting made 1. There's no regularity to it, that's my point. For an user to invest on fumbles or interceptions he has to not invest on skills that could improve their primary actions, like successfully tackling or defending against the pass. At the moment it is better to invest in these primary actions and leave interceptions and fumbles to RNG.
 
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interception skill alone wont grant you interceptions, just like d-line's pass deflection skill wont do much alone
 
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