Warrior General Games

Originally posted by IotB
That is a QB Rollout Strong is it not? It's hard to keep what you guys are whining about straight.



Xavori, these last few guys that have came out on your side should be proof enough your on the wrong side of the fence on this one.

thanks for coming in to embarrass yourself IotB - it was fun!

Originally posted by nortobc
Are every one of those plays against 5-2, Cat Blitz 2 Roll?

Yes

Reading this thread through... Keep the personal attacks down. You can debate, you can argue but do not attack any one personally.

Originally posted by IotB
Stobie: If you could compile another data set I'd recommend the following fields.

Tier, Home Team, HT Passing Score, HT Receiving Score, HT Running Score, HT Pass Defense, HT Blocking, HT Run Defense, Away Team, AT Passing Score, AT Receiving Score, AT Running Score, AT Pass Defense, AT Blocking, AT Run Defense, HT Formation, HT Play, AT Formation, AT Play, Sack, Yards, Completion, TD.

I assume you are discussing lolbars... I can't do that, but what I can do is post every play and its details in a spreadsheet for the RAW data if you want. I will tell you beware because it will be like I said a HELL of a lot of plays.

Originally posted by IotB
That is a QB Rollout Strong is it not? It's hard to keep what you guys are whining about straight.



When you figure out the argument and what thread you are in then you can join the conversation everyone is having.

A lot of hard work Stobie much appreciated

I have updated the spreadsheet with a new tab. I have left the offensive team in place and only showed goalline and QB rush plays.

Tier 0 is CPU
Tier 1 = Rookie
etc....


I have removed all defensive team names/ids so you can't use this for scouting in essence just a raw data set of how overpowered in general goalline plays are.

Originally posted by Parab00n
12
16
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26
10

Awesome job!

So why did Darkside win then? Not enough QB roll outs by Tampa Bay?

Originally posted by Stobie
I will tell you right now your numbers are FAR off...

Big Gain % 40.178
Loss % 36.1607
Avg YPC 7.8973

Big Gain is > 10 yards

Those numbers aren't from teams using the defenses he posted about…use your head man

Originally posted by bhall43
What part of I can hold every single other run in the book if I am planning for it is not computing?

I don't think you can…you are blowing big puffs of smoke

Originally posted by Sardonik00
So why did Darkside win then? Not enough QB roll outs by Tampa Bay?

That heavy pro set rollout plan.

Originally posted by HayRow
I don't think you can…you are blowing big puffs of smoke



What play do you not think I can stop? Because you are largely embarrassing yourself already.

If qb rollout strong is nerfed, I should hope the 10 other outside QB runs that all have broken blocking logic would be fixed. It would be quite unfair to have not a single viable outside running play for running QBs

Originally posted by Parab00n
Xavori, these last few guys that have came out on your side should be proof enough your on the wrong side of the fence on this one.

I'm not on his side. I hate the play and will NEVER run it. I am just trying to give advice on how to stop it, by building your DBs to stop the run.