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jdbolick
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Originally posted by lemdog
bolick not knowing about ghuffman just shows how out of touch he really is in this game. He can only talk about the good ole days when he was remotely relevant.

Last season doesn't count?
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Since this is a discussion about defense you probably shouldn't be posting at all, taut. http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2146551


I'd heard Manson was low on stamina...I was trying to tire him out then put up a quick 120 in the 4th. Almost worked too....

 
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Everyone run 1 play per formation so bollick can have some fun triple covering your go to guy
 
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Originally posted by chazno

What kind of DC does that?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146438&pbp_id=2567653
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146438&pbp_id=2568670
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146438&pbp_id=2569401
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146438&pbp_id=2569550
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2146438&pbp_id=2569771



That was obviously just a morale spiral...I blame Bort for bad coding tbh.

 
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No, that was stupid tagging on my part.
 
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I don't really understand what kind of idiot DC leaves receivers uncovered


 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by lemdog

bolick not knowing about ghuffman just shows how out of touch he really is in this game. He can only talk about the good ole days when he was remotely relevant.

Last season doesn't count?


I dunno, what happend
 
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i dont know, i was too engrossed in moon league play to notice.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Last season doesn't count?


So, if you were a coach what did you game plan against since there is no playbook limitations in real football?

I see you only recognize coordinators if they have big screw ups.

Finally, if you use your brains there are defenses you can come up with that cover a big majority of plays out of one set, not just cover a particular play...think small get small results



 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
So, if you were a coach what did you game plan against since there is no playbook limitations in real football?

Originally posted by jdbolick
You brought up real football, but in real football you can't completely change your offense in a few hours.

There actually are informal playbook limitations in real football, as it's rare for any offense to learn more than a few new plays in any particular week of practice. Moreover, as odd as it sounds, real football teams tend to be far more predictable in terms of what plays they run from what alignments and with certain personnel than we are in GLB. I remember being in the stands for Panthers vs. Steelers in 1996 with a division title on the line. The Steelers were around the six yard line or something with less than a minute left. Based on how they lined up in a spread with Andre Hastings in the slot, I believed Pittsburgh was going to target him on the quick slant, as I'd seen them run that play several times before, so I was screaming it from the stands but of course no one can hear you. Fortunately Chad Cota recognized it as well and undercut the route even though Hastings wasn't his assignment, intercepting the pass and winning the game. Anyway, the point is that real football is much more predictable because you can't teach your team a new offense every week, but in GLB you can call none of the plays you used in the previous game if you want to.

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I see you only recognize coordinators if they have big screw ups.

Sometimes, but for the most part I recognize guys that I've talked defense with.

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Finally, if you use your brains there are defenses you can come up with that cover a big majority of plays out of one set, not just cover a particular play...think small get small results

No kidding, as that's what I'm saying we've all been doing. Instead of taking chances and trying to guess what the offense will run on 1st down out of Singleback with the scat HB and receiving TE, we all use some kind of vanilla one-size-fits-all defense with either deep help or some sort of blitz package. It's boring.
 
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okay, i have watched the patriots enough times in the past to know that depending on their opponent their whole plan is different. From spread all the way out say vs the steelers to pound with multiple TE sets say vs the colts. completely different offensive identities from week to week. They even had their TE running the ball last season.

Point is many teams can have this flexibility in football (dotball) cause it happens
 
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Originally posted by Bladnach
Well, it's probably more the fact that we're 4 years into essentially the same game. Even if you want to consider WL s12 (?) the beginning of modern GLB it has still been almost 20 seasons of the same stuff. The build discrepancies aren't all because of more sp/ceq but build knowledge is more widely known. I can't tell if it's more widely available or it's just because there are more networks and people coordinating multiple teams. Still seems almost impossible for a new user to start a team and be remotely successful in his first or even second team go around (unless you're cernet)


I do wish bort started an ad campaign a bit earlier. Would love a bunch of new users in here.


Not to toot my own horn but cernet didn't start too much later than me and he has still accomplished nothing
 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
okay, i have watched the patriots enough times in the past to know that depending on their opponent their whole plan is different. From spread all the way out say vs the steelers to pound with multiple TE sets say vs the colts. completely different offensive identities from week to week. They even had their TE running the ball last season. Point is many teams can have this flexibility in football (dotball) cause it happens

The Patriots are exceptional precisely because they find a way to do things that other teams can't. Meanwhile the Tennessee Titans are extremely predictable in terms of what they run out of certain formations. Regardless, you're still missing the point regarding the game mechanic. With a much larger playbook, there is little benefit for the DC to guess what play will be run except perhaps on 3rd/4th down. In the current sim it's more effective to play vanilla defense that will protect against the pass or the pitch. I admit that it's more fun to watch games when a lot of different plays are being called, but it's made DCing into something dreadfully boring. Frankly I don't understand why we didn't get the full DPC back when they expanded playbooks. At least back then creating plays was fun.
 
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Originally posted by Dpride59
Originally posted by Bladnach

Well, it's probably more the fact that we're 4 years into essentially the same game. Even if you want to consider WL s12 (?) the beginning of modern GLB it has still been almost 20 seasons of the same stuff. The build discrepancies aren't all because of more sp/ceq but build knowledge is more widely known. I can't tell if it's more widely available or it's just because there are more networks and people coordinating multiple teams. Still seems almost impossible for a new user to start a team and be remotely successful in his first or even second team go around (unless you're cernet)


I do wish bort started an ad campaign a bit earlier. Would love a bunch of new users in here.


Not to toot my own horn but cernet didn't start too much later than me and he has still accomplished nothing


catch just won his casual pro, now he is trying for WL

reverse of Hali
 
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