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Originally posted by Coach RW
Originally posted by DavyJonesLocker

OK Plastic, now I understand. I just looked at a few of your box scores. You are a cheater also, that is why you are so fervently defending the RQB cheat and so butt hurt about the Spies.

LOL! They may call your bluff and state that they are dual threat QBs

we have 3 qb's on the roster
1 passer
1 runner
and 1 dual threat

and you will notice by looking at his game stats we hardly ever use the runner 9 23 running att all season)

Originally posted by DavyJonesLocker
Funny how you didn't post the game ID where your QB's went 2.32 ypc for the game. You know what is really funny about your gimmick/exploit team and mine? As the seasons go on, my team will get better, your team will fade away and fold up early before reaching Pro. We are already seeing signs of your team fading.

How does that fit your side of the debate whatsoever? That just shows it isnt an exploit, it isnt a cheat, it can be stopped, but you just havent been able to stop it. Exactly why you are butt hurt and keep crying about it.

Funny how you call it crying. It is an opinion. Like I stated, my teams have had RQB's but I chose not to cheat. As a matter of fact an associate and myself thought about removing ourselves as GM's of a team 2 seasons ago when the Owner went 100% QB rush in a conference title game. I have integrity ........you? Not so much.

Originally posted by DavyJonesLocker
Funny how you call it crying. It is an opinion. Like I stated, my teams have had RQB's but I chose not to cheat. As a matter of fact an associate and myself thought about removing ourselves as GM's of a team 2 seasons ago when the Owner went 100% QB rush in a conference title game. I have integrity ........you? Not so much.

how is it cheating if it is well with in the rules?

So i guess teams that run the wishbone, or the spread option are cheating right?

Originally posted by plastic4ork
Originally posted by terry54

Originally posted by plastic4ork


QB pies are the exploit, and btw Qb Spies are for girls

Thats just stupid! QB spies were introduced because it was nearly impossible to stop the rushing QB. You still have to set the right settings with the spies or else you will get beaten by the QB or by the passing game.

I would be fine with it, if you were able to use one guy as a spy and even maybe 2, however being able to use up to 6 spies is just plan crazy.

A running qb is what it is a game changer look around the NCAA you have guys like Denard Robinson and Taylor Martinez, they kill you with there feet.

here is the problem with what people were doing to try and stop runnig qb's in casual before the spies. they were using GLB logic and yes 90% of the time GLB logic proves out to be better then real life football IQ. however when trying to stop or slow down a running QB in casual. if you actually set up your defense using actual football logic it could and has been done. i have been playing casual as a DC going back to season 12 and i have never lost a game to a pure QB running team.

i would rather play an offense that was a pure running qb team then one that could pick me apart in the air and pound me on the ground with there backs

I don t think anyone has used 6 QB spies....I can almost guarantee that if anyone uses 3 or more that my passing game will blow them away...and rushing QBs can still be very effective....re" my USA team...and rush QBs can be stopped as well with the right DEF in place without using 6 spies....I don t consider it an exploit unless someone uses it 100 percent of the time in every game and that s the only way they can win....then they prove to everyone anyways that they aren t skilled and only know how to do one thing...that s a weak team IMO...At that point I don t care how many loltrophies you have...you re weak and I have no respect for you or your team....my .02

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Originally posted by terry54
I'm hoping to beat either Detroit or NHG, I'm not sure if we can but thats my plan! I think you guys were the hardest team out of the 3 and I never expeced to beat you tbh! But I think we've got a chance in our last 2!

Originally posted by akinghorn
NGH

Originally posted by StatlerandWaldorf
And You're a closet Justin Beiber fan....

Sorry S&W - I meant NGTH (not Nerdy Gator Herders).

Though I don't follow your Justin Beiber reference....

Originally posted by akinghorn
Sorry S&W - I meant NGTH (not Nerdy Gator Herders).

Though I don't follow your Justin Beiber reference....

I didn't know if you were saying they could beat us, saying they couldn't beat us, and/or making a "NGH" reference too.

NJ has a good team. We'll try to make it a good game.

Originally posted by StatlerandWaldorf
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lol, why did you edit your comment?

Originally posted by Aaron Rodgers
lol, why did you edit your comment?

To some degree, I understand the statements made by DJL. However, I disagree with them.
NHG started in S14, and found ourselves in Casual Pro by S19, all by using a "conventional passing QB", and a ground and pound rushing attack. So NHG has been from Cap 4 to the Pros by using the passing QB.
In S18, we were in AAA, and came across the Dallas Badgers. They were the 1st team, that I saw that used extensively 3 rushing QBs. I had seen other teams run it with some success, but not like the Badgers. They were unbeatable, relying on 90% QB runs. Did I feel they cheated, because they were using exploits.......No, but I felt it was unfair that we had spent 5 seasons building a cookie cutter team, which couldn't hold a candle to their team. I was envious...Jealous, they had the knowledge, agents, and confidence to do something different. After a season in the Pros, which was forgetful, we hit the reset button in S20. Much discussion was put into our roster, and by the slimmest of margins we decided to go with the rushing QB system. I felt in order for us to compete with the best of the best, we had to use rushing QBs. We had success in S20 and S21, even after the spy implements. Now, I don't feel it's difficult to beat a team with a rushing QB. If anything, after the changes during midseason S21 to add 6 spies, there are no more excuses. If you lose to a rushing QB team, it's not an exploit, you just got beat by a better team. If I remember, GBW had a pretty good team until the changes were implemented I feel like there is a distinct possibiltiy, that well rounded teams like Darkness, A/O, ReDisturbed, Mustang Nation will simply develop better and faster than teams such as NHG and Detroit. We are playing "catch up" on our builds, where the other teams are still building on a plan, while we are trying to modify our dots during their careers. NHG will stick it out, until we can no longer be competitve before we pull the plug again. I enjoy the rivalries, the competition, and even the arguements on the forums.... I don't say much, as bad teams should say very little, and great teams should say even less...to steal a quote from Raven.....just my .02

I can't believe this argument is still happening, after what, 5 seasons of the same shit just get over it already. RQB's CAN be stopped, especially with Spies. Neither using a RQB (even 100% of the time) or using Spies are cheating, thats possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while, nor is it an 'exploit' just because you can't deal with it.

The two comments above are spot on, thanks for adding to this worthless debate...

Originally posted by Arayel
I can't believe this argument is still happening, after what, 5 seasons of the same shit just get over it already. RQB's CAN be stopped, especially with Spies. Neither using a RQB (even 100% of the time) or using Spies are cheating, thats possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while, nor is it an 'exploit' just because you can't deal with it.

Wow....the reading comprehension in this League is severely lacking apparently. We are not talking about presently with spies, which were a correction to a game design flaw, rather we are discussing the past. Chief4Life was the tool bragging about his titles using an exploit.

Originally posted by DavyJonesLocker
Wow....the reading comprehension in this League is severely lacking apparently. We are not talking about presently with spies, which were a correction to a game design flaw, rather we are discussing the past. Chief4Life was the tool bragging about his titles using an exploit.

Not how the last few pages read in the slightest, but even still just because RQB teams were very good didn't make them unstoppable. A well built speed defence 2 seasons ago, running on 100% pass, 100% zone, 100% Outside Run and spying a high speed MLB would do you enough to turn them over pretty often. That combined with the fail runs like the QB outside 5WR before the sort of fixed it and a couple of others made RQB's stoppable even then. People just didn't dare go for defences like that and stuck to 100% rush defences and crying that it didn't work.

So you don't consider using pass defense to stop the run a game design flaw? That's like using a wet towel to dry off after a shower.