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Originally posted by Enders
Originally posted by BP

Like I said, first game I got no carries.

Game 4 the team was average level 38, but effective lvl 41..which is higher then Rusty's effective level and seems to be a popular measuring stick

Game 5 was against a team with average level of 55 (effective level of 55 as well)..that's 12 levels above rusty.

So yeah, it actually DOES appear like he's destroying dots and that 10-20 levels ahead. Nice try though, Pickle dominates and has been for 4 seasons (with 3 MVPS). Next?



You yourself said effective level doesn't mean anything. You can either use it as a measuring stick, or you can't. Can't use it both ways though.

I will give you credit, you did beat up on some dots that are 13 levels higher than you one time. So you are 1 for 3.

Minors are easy to dominate though. Your level of dominating in the minors is nothing compared to some others.



He's not in the minors anymore. When he was, that's what I heard...now that he's not, it's something different. The point is, that 3 MVPs in a row..2 championships say everything. This season, lvl 43 #6 in MVP voting in AA

People like to hate, hate on. My level of success in the minors, back to back to back MVP with two championship for a non SSB HB probably ISNT rivaled by any dot, ever. If it has, they are great dots...as great as RUSTY.

Will provide an end of season update, stay tuned..you too can be part of the Pickle Party!
Edited by BP on Feb 16, 2010 12:40:18
 
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Originally posted by BP

He's not in the minors anymore. When he was, that's what I heard...now that he's not, it's something different. The point is, that 3 MVPs in a row..2 championships say everything. This season, lvl 43 #6 in MVP voting.

People like to hate, hate on. My level of success in the minors, back to back to back MVP with two championship for a non SSB HB probably ISNT rivaled by any dot, ever. If it has, they are great dots...as great as RUSTY.

Will provide an end of season update, stay tuned..you too can be part of the Pickle Party!


Back to back to back MVPs (seasons 9, 10 and 11. Season 12 till now he has been on a pro team), he was also ranked in the top 10 of Global Offense for seasons 10 and 11. Also has much better stats throughout the minors: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1177718. Through my run through the minors I saw some other HBs who would rival Pickle as well, but I don't remember their names and am too lazy to go looking for them.

I'm not saying Pickle isn't good. But come on, even the stats this season aren't anything special except for game 5. Almost half of his carries on the season came in week 4 against the team that is 5 levels below you, so of course the overall stats are gonna look good too.
Edited by Enders on Feb 16, 2010 12:49:49
 
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Originally posted by Enders
Originally posted by BP


He's not in the minors anymore. When he was, that's what I heard...now that he's not, it's something different. The point is, that 3 MVPs in a row..2 championships say everything. This season, lvl 43 #6 in MVP voting.

People like to hate, hate on. My level of success in the minors, back to back to back MVP with two championship for a non SSB HB probably ISNT rivaled by any dot, ever. If it has, they are great dots...as great as RUSTY.

Will provide an end of season update, stay tuned..you too can be part of the Pickle Party!


Back to back to back MVPs (seasons 9, 10 and 11. Season 12 till now he has been on a pro team), he was also ranked in the top 10 of Global Offense for seasons 10 and 11. Also has much better stats throughout the minors: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1177718. Through my run through the minors I saw some other HBs who would rival Pickle as well, but I don't remember their names and am too lazy to go looking for them.

I'm not saying Pickle isn't good. But come on, even the stats this season aren't anything special except for game 5. Almost half of his carries on the season came in week 4 against the team that is 5 levels below you, so of course the overall stats are gonna look good too.



Yeah, he looks good man. No championships tho

has played 30 more games then Rusty and only 45 TD's more. He really hit a wall the last two seasons. Not exactly apples to apple. More like an apple to a pear I don't think Rusty's performance thus far = World League RB success. I'm just saying...so far so great and unrivaled as far as stats + team accomplishments at this point in his career

I respect your opinion and your RB, just I KNOW rusty's pickle and this dot still makes me


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY

 
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Originally posted by BP

Yeah, he looks good man. No championships tho

has played 30 more games then Rusty and only 45 TD's more. He really hit a wall the last two seasons. Not exactly apples to apple. More like an apple to a pear I don't think Rusty's performance thus far = World League RB success. I'm just saying...so far so great and unrivaled as far as stats + team accomplishments at this point in his career

I respect your opinion and your RB, just I KNOW rusty's pickle and this dot still makes me


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY



Yeah the no championships part sucks. The wall he hit was moving up to a pro league with a team that is all the same level as him . We've been lucky enough to be able to hang around in Pro thanks to people gutting.
 
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Originally posted by BP

He's not in the minors anymore. When he was, that's what I heard...now that he's not, it's something different. The point is, that 3 MVPs in a row..2 championships say everything. This season, lvl 43 #6 in MVP voting in AA

People like to hate, hate on. My level of success in the minors, back to back to back MVP with two championship for a non SSB HB probably ISNT rivaled by any dot, ever. If it has, they are great dots...as great as RUSTY.

Will provide an end of season update, stay tuned..you too can be part of the Pickle Party!


My back is pretty good for being on a bad team.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1707410
 
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Time for his end of season 14 update

Bad stuff

It was a down year for Rusty and COP. As level 40's we decided to do a 3 cap jump up to AA, and facing players 25 levels above us some weeks lead to a long 7-9 season. We also had an AI snafu that lead to Rusty not getting any carries the first week. We spammed him at the end of the season to make his numbers look a little better....so I do know that his numbers are fake inflated this season.


Good Stuff

Rusty banged out 3000 Yards

Rusty Did not lose 1 FUMBLE this season and only put the ball on the ground once in 280 carries. Very impressive considering the level of competition he faced

Rusty Scored 65 TDS

Rusty had a blowout adjusted 6.2 YPC, as a low level 40 in a AA...that was awesome and actually BETTER then last season

Rusty finished at the #10 MVP candidate in his conference, again starting as a lvl 40 in AA that's pretty sick


Couple of nice plays vs. high level competition

20 yard run with a couple of broken tackles vs team with defenders 15-20 levels above him (#6 playoff seed)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1024781&pbp_id=7926828



Nifty run against a defense 15-25 levels above him. As a lvl 43 at this time broke a lvl 65, a lvl 68 and a lvl 55 players tackle for this 18 yard gain

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1024676&pbp_id=8804404




So not the best of years for Rusty, but averaging 6.2 with no fumbles and top 10 in the in MVP race in AA as a lvl 40 should bode well for him next season in the same league. He'll still be underleveled, but should sniff the MVP trophy as COP looks to make a playoff run.


Will update next preseason!


Edited by BP on Mar 10, 2010 10:38:20
 
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Originally posted by BP
Time for his end of season 14 update

Bad stuff

It was a down year for Rusty and COP. As level 40's we decided to do a 3 cap jump up to AA, and facing players 25 levels above us some weeks lead to a long 7-9 season. We also had an AI snafu that lead to Rusty not getting any carries the first week. We spammed him at the end of the season to make his numbers look a little better....so I do know that his numbers are fake inflated this season.


Good Stuff

Rusty banged out 3000 Yards

Rusty Did not lose 1 FUMBLE this season and only put the ball on the ground once in 280 carries. Very impressive considering the level of competition he faced

Rusty Scored 65 TDS

Rusty had a blowout adjusted 6.2 YPC, as a low level 40 in a AA...that was awesome and actually BETTER then last season

Rusty finished at the #10 MVP candidate in his conference, again starting as a lvl 40 in AA that's pretty sick


Couple of nice plays vs. high level competition

20 yard run with a couple of broken tackles vs team with defenders 15-20 levels above him (#6 playoff seed)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1024781&pbp_id=7926828



Nifty run against a defense 15-25 levels above him. As a lvl 43 at this time broke a lvl 65, a lvl 68 and a lvl 55 players tackle for this 18 yard gain

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1024676&pbp_id=8804404




So not the best of years for Rusty, but averaging 6.2 with no fumbles and top 10 in the in MVP race in AA as a lvl 40 should bode well for him next season in the same league. He'll still be underleveled, but should sniff the MVP trophy as COP looks to make a playoff run.


Will update next preseason!




fucking beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Quick Rusty Update

Rusty was...as suspected...a break tackle stacker. After doing excessive damage, Bort took note and created the +% stacking nerf specifically in response to Rusty Pickle.

In Retalliation, Rusty traded in all of his AEQ and redid his regular EQ and his Custom EQ. He rerolled all of his AEQ and...I will just say, the reroll was very kind to Rusty. One of his rerolled pieces has an effective value of 39 SP's to him...

As we roll into season 15, look for a 4th MVP trophy for him...will keep you all updated.
Edited by BP on Mar 26, 2010 15:12:12
 
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Originally posted by BP
Quick Rusty Update

Rusty was...as suspected...a break tackle stacker. After doing excessive damage, Bort took note and created the +% stacking nerf specifically in response to Rusty Pickle.

In Retalliation, Rusty traded in all of his AEQ and redid his regular EQ and his Custom EQ. He rerolled all of his AEQ and...I will just say, the reroll was very kind to Rusty. One of his rerolled pieces has an effective value of 39 SP's to him...

As we roll into season 15, look for a 4th MVP trophy for him...will keep you all updated.


 
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Looks like a total Dud. Retire
 
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Originally posted by David Stern
Looks like a total Stud. Teach me


I don't think you'd understand it even if I explained it to you, Dave. Sorry.
 
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Originally posted by Madlister
Not pissing, just putting things into perspective.

HB is lvl 34, still on average, a good deal bigger than most of the defenses you're facing.

Plus, just due to the nature of the game / sim, lower level defenders are going to be all SPD / AGI so as not to fall behind the mobility curve. It's kind of the m.o. that by the lvl 40+ range the STR/TCKL tends to catch up a bit on LB's, SS, FS, etc. So at lower levels, power HB's are going to break a metric shit-ton of tackles.

That trend tends to hit a plateau by the end of the 30's, getting into the 40/50 lvl range, and power HB's stop dominating because the defensive builds are finally rounding out.

Pickle is lvl 34, running behind an O Line that are all lvl 34-36, with one guy being 32. The number 2 seed's D Line and LB's are on average 2-4 levels lower. Same with the #3 seed. From there the defenses taper off rapidly with most being in the upper 20's with a few defenders breaking lvl 30.

So steamrolling defenders at a level range where defenses have traditionally had a horrible time stopping power backs (lvl 1 through the low 30's), plus having a level range with the HB and the O Line blocking for him - yeah, you're going to dominate.

I'm not saying you've built a bad HB. Quite the contrary. But it's naive at best to make claims of being the best anything in the game with such a skewed sample for data.

Call us back in a few seasons when he's in his 40's and 50's, if he's putting up the same numbers vs defenses that are also on equal footing as far as levels / time to develop, then congrats - you have an awesome HB.



Nice job pointing that out!

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Originally posted by raylewis22
Originally posted by Madlister

Not pissing, just putting things into perspective.

HB is lvl 34, still on average, a good deal bigger than most of the defenses you're facing.

Plus, just due to the nature of the game / sim, lower level defenders are going to be all SPD / AGI so as not to fall behind the mobility curve. It's kind of the m.o. that by the lvl 40+ range the STR/TCKL tends to catch up a bit on LB's, SS, FS, etc. So at lower levels, power HB's are going to break a metric shit-ton of tackles.

That trend tends to hit a plateau by the end of the 30's, getting into the 40/50 lvl range, and power HB's stop dominating because the defensive builds are finally rounding out.

Pickle is lvl 34, running behind an O Line that are all lvl 34-36, with one guy being 32. The number 2 seed's D Line and LB's are on average 2-4 levels lower. Same with the #3 seed. From there the defenses taper off rapidly with most being in the upper 20's with a few defenders breaking lvl 30.

So steamrolling defenders at a level range where defenses have traditionally had a horrible time stopping power backs (lvl 1 through the low 30's), plus having a level range with the HB and the O Line blocking for him - yeah, you're going to dominate.

I'm not saying you've built a bad HB. Quite the contrary. But it's naive at best to make claims of being the best anything in the game with such a skewed sample for data.

Call us back in a few seasons when he's in his 40's and 50's, if he's putting up the same numbers vs defenses that are also on equal footing as far as levels / time to develop, then congrats - you have an awesome HB.



Nice job pointing that out!

Baggins


You do realize that post was novermber of last year? o_O
 
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Originally posted by Kirby
You do realize that post was novermber of last year? o_O


Yessssss

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