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Roctronic
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Good Rusher, Crappy QB.

Bottom Line.
 
JDM998
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Originally posted by davthebest1
After I read this the first time, I went and tried it on Madden 08. Works much better for me, of course, I am able to control my QB (99speed,99Agi,99BrTk,50ThA,50ThP)


On my Madden 09 superstar I used the unlockable style which givs me 99 in every stat. I'm almost purely scrambling.
 
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Originally posted by JDM998
Originally posted by davthebest1

After I read this the first time, I went and tried it on Madden 08. Works much better for me, of course, I am able to control my QB (99speed,99Agi,99BrTk,50ThA,50ThP)


On my Madden 09 superstar I used the unlockable style which givs me 99 in every stat. I'm almost purely scrambling.


The unlockable style??
 
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OK, I didn't read thru 10 pages of posts to see if this was mentioned yet... but what happens when people see that you are a rushing qb? My guess is that will be about game 2. Then they stack the box and go run heavy D. You won't be able to pass, so you will be screwed. You will be one dimensional.

Wouldn't it just be better to have good HB and a good QB instead of a good HB and a running QB?

You will have the times where you go against good run D's and your passing will suck so it will be an automatic loss.

You will have the times where you go down a couple scores, and won't be able to come back because running takes too much time.

I just don't see the benefit of a running QB. Now a passing QB that cam maybe scramble a little would be real useful... but I'll leave my rushing for my HB's.
 
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Originally posted by Godzirra
OK, I didn't read thru 10 pages of posts to see if this was mentioned yet... but what happens when people see that you are a rushing qb? My guess is that will be about game 2. Then they stack the box and go run heavy D. You won't be able to pass, so you will be screwed. You will be one dimensional.

Wouldn't it just be better to have good HB and a good QB instead of a good HB and a running QB?

You will have the times where you go against good run D's and your passing will suck so it will be an automatic loss.

You will have the times where you go down a couple scores, and won't be able to come back because running takes too much time.

I just don't see the benefit of a running QB. Now a passing QB that cam maybe scramble a little would be real useful... but I'll leave my rushing for my HB's.


After reading the thread a little, VISCOUNT'S QB is exactly what I'm talking about. Why make a running QB and be one dimensional, when you can have a passer like Viscount that can also run.
 
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Originally posted by Godzirra
OK, I didn't read thru 10 pages of posts to see if this was mentioned yet... but what happens when people see that you are a rushing qb? My guess is that will be about game 2. Then they stack the box and go run heavy D.


Clearly you didn't read through all 10 pages otherwise you would have seen this post:

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by JDM998


Teams could just keep eight in the box against you and shut you down.


Doesn't work. This is what happens when you put 8 in the box against Number 17:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260066&pbp_id=11075615
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260090&pbp_id=9800679
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260066&pbp_id=11081541
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260066&pbp_id=11083967
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260066&pbp_id=11076848
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260066&pbp_id=11076258

This isn't 8 in the box, but even when teams blitz an LB from the edge where Number 17 runs, they still can't stop him:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260083&pbp_id=9163065
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=260066&pbp_id=11081413


You also clearly don't know much about GLB because there is currently a way to have a rusher on for all QB rushing plays and then a passer for all passing plays.
I do it on my own team with an HB, this is from a playoff game:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=282707&pbp_id=11955244
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=282707&pbp_id=11955284

Look at the box score, the HB rushed from QB but didn't pass at all and the actual QB did not rush at all:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=282707
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britdevine316
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LOL at these idiots in the thread
 
kommando98
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I see how you can beat the stacked box, but what about the CB blitz...

Say, for instance, some team were to have 7 CBs out there for your 2-3 WRs and blitz 2 CBs (one from each side)?
 
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Originally posted by kommando98
I see how you can beat the stacked box, but what about the CB blitz...

Say, for instance, some team were to have 7 CBs out there for your 2-3 WRs and blitz 2 CBs (one from each side)?


Then we don't run from the QB and run up the middle all day with the HB, or run QB sneaks for 6+ yards every time. There are so many possibilities.

If 17 is set to run 25% of the time from every down and distance, sure a team could stop him from running outside, but then the other 75% of the time they will get shredded by him or the HB's running up the middle.

So 17 gets 14 carries for 25 yards, while my HB's get 15 carries for 270 yards. Just the threat of him being there makes a good DC totally change their gameplan.

You can't stop Strong I weak QB rollout, Strong I Off tackle, Strong I Inside, Strong I screen and Strong I cross up all at once, its impossible.
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Viscount
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Originally posted by britdevine316
Originally posted by kommando98

I see how you can beat the stacked box, but what about the CB blitz...

Say, for instance, some team were to have 7 CBs out there for your 2-3 WRs and blitz 2 CBs (one from each side)?


Then we don't run from the QB and run up the middle all day with the HB, or run QB sneaks for 6+ yards every time. There are so many possibilities.


Exactly, in one game we had no hope of winning I had feeling a team would try blitzing a CB to shut it down so I just rushed the QB left instead (we had always run right previously) and increased the HB Slam:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=273037&pbp_id=9047373
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=273037&pbp_id=9046101
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=273037&pbp_id=9043863
 
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Originally posted by britdevine316
LOL at these idiots in the thread


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cripling
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Originally posted by Viscount
Number 17...

He sees the blitzing LB here, steps up and throws.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=281988&pbp_id=12297322
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=281988&pbp_id=12296541


Ok, those 2 plays, were fucking hot
 
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Originally posted by cripling
Originally posted by britdevine316

LOL at these idiots in the thread


^


No one seems to understand that he's only gonna be rushing like 10-20 times a game, he's not gonna be rushing every down. But to be honest I don't think teams could shut it down if he did.

People say he's one dimensional and teams could easily stop that, but is a pocket QB not one dimensional? And teams have trouble stopping that......
 
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Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by britdevine316

Originally posted by kommando98


I see how you can beat the stacked box, but what about the CB blitz...

Say, for instance, some team were to have 7 CBs out there for your 2-3 WRs and blitz 2 CBs (one from each side)?


Then we don't run from the QB and run up the middle all day with the HB, or run QB sneaks for 6+ yards every time. There are so many possibilities.


Exactly, in one game we had no hope of winning I had feeling a team would try blitzing a CB to shut it down so I just rushed the QB left instead (we had always run right previously) and increased the HB Slam:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=273037&pbp_id=9047373
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=273037&pbp_id=9046101
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=273037&pbp_id=9043863



Touche...for some reason I got the impression he was going to be rushing every down, but when used sparingly with your standard offense it could definitely be a nightmare for DC's
 
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ima making a scrambler next QB i make pure rush
 
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