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Fully and completely, it seems. They have maybe seven people on their roster and only three or so real players.

Its that time of year. Owners that don't want to renew sign their players to Day 40 contracts and don't renew...don't like it, but its all part of the game.

Wolves did the same, but made a statement before the season ended announcing it.

The new owners have some work to do...

Methinks we are in the same boat.

Looks like it cwork.

Was cash an issue all season for the Beavers? If not, the ownership group may have some explaining to do.

Well, it wasn't for a while, but looked like it would be here at the end of the season. We started with one of the smaller stadiums, and I think about half way thru the season he tried to add seats to bring in more money, instead of building upgrades in the off season. Just too little, too late. Don't think that he gave his guys big bonuses or anything like that.

Originally posted by cwork
Well, it wasn't for a while, but looked like it would be here at the end of the season. We started with one of the smaller stadiums, and I think about half way thru the season he tried to add seats to bring in more money, instead of building upgrades in the off season. Just too little, too late. Don't think that he gave his guys big bonuses or anything like that.

Huge mistake. Even with 100/100/100 fan support, adding extra seats won't pay for itself in a season without all 8 games and a home playoff game (or two).

We made the same mistake in Season 2 (also didn't take out a loan), and we're a little behind several teams because of it.

Same here, we will be full after next season.

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
Originally posted by cwork

Well, it wasn't for a while, but looked like it would be here at the end of the season. We started with one of the smaller stadiums, and I think about half way thru the season he tried to add seats to bring in more money, instead of building upgrades in the off season. Just too little, too late. Don't think that he gave his guys big bonuses or anything like that.

Huge mistake. Even with 100/100/100 fan support, adding extra seats won't pay for itself in a season without all 8 games and a home playoff game (or two).

We made the same mistake in Season 2 (also didn't take out a loan), and we're a little behind several teams because of it.

Yeah, I think so, too. If I remember right we only had like 15000 seats coming into the season. Just wasn't enough.

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Dang. I'm a bit frustrated by the relegation process. It'd be nice if we could dump the bottom four teams every season in each conference to get rid of gutted or non-competitive teams, filling the BBB with those.

That would allow new BBB owners to actually be able to compete and feel good about their teams, since most of what winds up in BBB are gutted teams.

BBB is around 50% gutted, going off of BBB 1. The frustrating thing (I feel) for owners, even when they get relegated, is they expect BBB to be easier. Their are plenty of BBB teams who match up with A teams. So you'll have a slow build team and a team that averages level 28 across the board playing each other. Plus it is tough to recruit to BBB teams, especially players at that level.

Looks like the owner on the Beavers cut everyone. Don't know if he is keeping the team or not. Anyways, best of luck to everyone in A6, it's been fun!

cwork

Originally posted by cwork
BBB is around 50% gutted, going off of BBB 1. The frustrating thing (I feel) for owners, even when they get relegated, is they expect BBB to be easier. Their are plenty of BBB teams who match up with A teams. So you'll have a slow build team and a team that averages level 28 across the board playing each other. Plus it is tough to recruit to BBB teams, especially players at that level.


Based on what Bort is working on, it sounds like the gutting/relegation issue is going to be fixed after this season (can't fix it in midstream). I expect BBB will be filled almost entirely with gutted teams. We certainly have a few teams in A6 that belong in BBB, and there are several BBB teams that could certainly make things more interesting in A6.

For what its worth, I'm hoping we won't be around in A6 next season to find out.

I agree with what you guys are talking about here. As owner of the Avalanche last season was very tough on us. I've had a few guys helping get some players in here and we look way better. With that being said, we're still up against some serious teams. Things need to get aligned better some how.

I haven't been active in the league forums because I've been working so hard on the team. Looking foward to talking more here.

The real problem is that income and expenses snowball and blackhole too quickly in this game.

If you have a good first season, get your fanbase up, have a home playoff game, then you can build aggressively in the offseason. That totally sets you up to continue to build the next season and the snowball begins.

If you have an ok/shitty first season, miss the playoffs, don't build or can't afford to build new sections, then you're not set up to afford your teams growth. The costs grow, but your income doesn't grow proportionately to where you can afford all the new costs to stay competitive. You can't afford the level 16, 24, then 32 EQ. If you don't have cash that second or third season you continue to lose, miss the playoffs, and can't build much. You're in the death spiral.

Now, the teams that hit the death spiral get related to a league that has teams they have no shot at beating because only one of the four cash rich playoff team leave.