Warrior General Games

On behalf of the Southern Wasters, I would like to apologise for us not defeating the Phuket Cheaters. We made a valiant effort, and almost overcame the Cheaters despite them using their boosts just to make sure they still outlevelled us by 6 levels.

Thank you for all your support.

Interesting post.

so now I guess that I am a cheater for boosting my players? I am sick of all of your fuckin whining, Obviously I did nothing wrong. Deal with it!

The only position that I significantly outlevel other teams is my O line, which I have no depth, and my DE's. My defense is not that great, obviously we can be beaten.


Good game Wasters, our turnovers almost bit us in the ass. you guys have a good squad

So you gut a Pro team to get an unfair advantage in a lower league, and even with this you fail to dominate. How is your ego now?

I'll say this again because I just love to hear your deluded ranting. You ruined another team by cutting players, en masse, to advantage another team, GLB's dictionary defines this as Gutting and Colluding.

The fact that you're not very good doesn't change the fact that you've gone against the greater community. You suck.

my ego is fine, and we are 3-1. Good game

Originally posted by Polorl69
so now I guess that I am a cheater for boosting my players? I am sick of all of your fuckin whining, Obviously I did nothing wrong. Deal with it!

no, you're a cheater, because you gutted a pro team when you picked up a lower league team...

probably because you couldn't win in pro, but that's just pure speculation...

--j

Pucket can do what they want, but they are still going to lose to the Kings!

You know I've been trying to stay out of this since coming to the team. But if Polorl69 actually did something that was wrong, don't you think with everyone who has said they reported him, he'd have lost his team? I mean other than all his players over 4-5 other people from the pro team came over. Last I knew, gutting and colluding means you cut a team's roster and EVERYONE goes to the other team, not just 4-5 people. The vast majority of the pro team didn't come over.

This may get a bunch of people hating me but you know what, calling him a cheater and joining forces to try to beat him proves what? nothing. This is a subject that has been driven into the ground and is getting no where but making you guys look like cry babies. What he did may have been unethical, but obviously if so many of you reported him and he still has his team, then it's obviously not illegal and against the rules. You can sit there and say by GLB's dictionary all day long, but it proves nothing.

So the way I see it, is like this. You can either continue to call him a cheater and get no where with it but increasing your own self worth for calling someone a cheater or you can just let the subject go, do some good game planning and try and beat him. Obviously it's possible as Cebu has beat us and so have Davao Dogs. Which do you think will make you feel better? Beating us in a game or if you lose coming in the forum, creating a thread apologizing the the league for not beating the "Phuket Cheaters" as we're obviously called? I'd think beating us would make you feel better.

I understand it's a touchy subject but does commenting about it every 2nd post do anything? No. Does it change the fact that it happened? No. Will it make it go away? No. So why do it? because it makes you feel better to call someone a cheater because you lost to them? I mean we won by a touchdown in OT. It could have gone either way. I mean we were playing catch up the entire game.

Get mad at me all you want, I don't care. I am just tired of constantly seeing snide comments about a dead subject. Let it go. It proves nothing by constantly making comments about it.

This is all I am going to say about this. Make whatever comment you want in reply to this, it doesn't matter to me as at the end of the season I am going my own seperate way. I really don't care what any of you have to say about me, because I made a comment about how stupid it is to constantly comment on a dead subject. The only reason you guys think it's still alive is because you guys are constantly bringing it up.

Originally posted by shadow46x2
Originally posted by Polorl69

so now I guess that I am a cheater for boosting my players? I am sick of all of your fuckin whining, Obviously I did nothing wrong. Deal with it!

no, you're a cheater, because you gutted a pro team when you picked up a lower league team...

probably because you couldn't win in pro, but that's just pure speculation...

--j



As for this comment, if he gutted the pro team when he picked up a lower league team, he would have done it last season because I know he had this team last season probably longer than that. As for winning in the pro league, we went 10-6 last season.

There has been an overwhelming number of people outside of the Cheaters who've said you cheated. As long as he continues to benefit from cheating, I for one will continue to remind everybody of this fact and will not let it rest.

If the admins won't do anything about it, the community can do their level best to make sure he knows about it every single day.

Unfortunately there is no legitimate way that we can express our disgust, ala the feedback system in eBay. This would allow to pan polor in a way that might actually be productive, but without that sort of system in place this is our only recourse.

Perhaps polor should have thought of the consequences before he cheated?

You guys keep saying he cheated but if the Admins aren't doing anything, then wouldn't that say he didn't cheat? I mean seriously, the people who run this game obviously don't think what he did is grounds for removing him from being an owner, so obviously what he did was within regulations. Constantly bringing it up does nothing but inflate everyone's egos because they can say he cheated. It does nothing to effect anything but your own ego.

So where is the benefit of bringing it up every damn day? Other than to inflate your ego, nothing. It doesn't change anything. It doesn't make it go away. It does nothing beneficial to anyone but those who keep bringing it up. Do you think bringing it up every day really makes him feel bad? Obviously not as he hasn't released any of the people who he brought over or those who decided to come over with him.

Does bringing it up actually make you feel better about what he did? Does calling him a cheater make it easier to plan against him? Does bringing it up every time you turn around effect the game? No to all of them. What effects the game is simple game planning and tactics. Simple as that. Calling him a cheater doesn't change anything. It simply makes you guys feel better because you get to rag on someone who obviously was well within the bounds of legality, considering the Admins are doing nothing.

As I said, what he did may have been unethical, I am not the judge of that and neither are any of you. All this does is make you guys feel better about it. If he did the same thing but didn't bring over level 20+ players, I highly doubt you guys would have made such a big deal about it, but because he brought over high level players, you decided to make a big deal about it. Simple as that.

Actually I hope it will have an effect. If its made visible and people know about it, the reputation will spread. Letting it go is saying its OK.

Believe it or not, the admins don't actually control the game - ultimately the community does, and will determine its success or failure.

Maybe the next FA he offers a contract to will have heard about it and decide not to play for a cheat. Maybe every team that plays him will make that little bit of extra effort in their game planning to get the win. Maybe one his current players will read this and decide when his contract comes up for renewal to leave.

None of these things happen if the misconduct is forgotten and swept under the rug.

Originally posted by JAY25M2396
This is all I am going to say about this.

You fail at this quote.

Tell the truth here, if he didn't bring over level 20+ player would you be making this big of a deal about it? My opinion no, you wouldn't but because he brought level 20+ players it's a big deal.

Honestly, do you not think people on his team don't know about it already? Bringing it up isn't gonna make them decide they don't want to play for him, because they'd be asking for release NOW not later. I know I wouldn't stick around if I didn't want to play for someone. I'd be asking for a release or a trade immediately. People don't tend to stay in a place they're not happy in. (excluding jobs).

Do you honestly think calling him a cheat is going to effect the decision of some random FA? They're going to base their decision off of the previous season's record or the current season record. Not over what a group of people say in a forum. How does he know what you are saying is fact and not just your opinion.

Believe it or not, the admins do control this game in terms of what I was talking about. If the community controlled it, don't you think Polor wouldn't be an owner anymore? Seriously. The community doesn't have to power to revoke someone's team ownership. The Admins do. As I said before, obviously what he did was within the limits of legality as the ADMINS did nothing.

I am not saying sweep it under the rug because if you look at the forum, it's all over the place. So obviously it is kind of hard to sweep it under the rug without EVERYONE editting their posts. But you sit there and say maybe by bringing it up every damn day someone will take that extra time to game plan against him for a win. Do you honestly think there is a single GM/Owner in this league that doesn't already know about it? I mean come on. It's been going on since before season 4 even began. I am sure everyone already knows about it.

Regardless to what you think, you guys don't have that much effect on people. I mean it's always the same group of people commenting on it. No one new. If it was really that big of a deal there would be more than 5-6 people who post about it on a constant basis.

So you're contributing to nothing but inflating your own ego. You're making absolutely no effect on the game at all. Frankly, it's really immature to make snide comments about it, ESPECIALLY after losing to him. Did he come in here saying HA We beat you. No he said simply good game and admitted that we almost lost the game. I could see bringing it up all the time if he came in here flat out boasting about winning or complaining about losing. Whichever the case is. But he doesn't. So bringing it up, does nothing to effect anything but yourself and the group of people who do it also.

Originally posted by kruegs
Originally posted by JAY25M2396

This is all I am going to say about this.

You fail at this quote.

I am going to reply to people as it is called being polite. That meant I wasn't going to keep it going on my own. Sorry, should have been more clear.

Originally posted by JAY25M2396
I am going to reply to people as it is called being polite. That meant I wasn't going to keep it going on my own. Sorry, should have been more clear.

Well please be more clear next time. I was looking forward to your promised silence. Keeping your word is also polite, you know.

And as for people making a big deal about this, you're the only person I've seen write a 12 page dissertation about how these people who have been complaining actually have no effect on people.

Irony for the BIG win!