Warrior General Games

Ok, I really hate the out of conference games. The way they are or are not decided. I hate the advantage/disadvantage that the powerhouses looking to win the conference get. I hate the advantage/disadvantage teams on the playoff bubble get. I think they should be chosen based off of last seasons performance, or standings at the half way mark. Otherwise, let teams schedule their own matchups from other divisions and dont count the game on the final playoff standings.

I would like to have your opinion on the games and what you would do to make them viable in your eyes.

If a good discussion comes of this thread, I will probly forward to support, or move the thread to the suggestions part of the forum.

We got hosed with a monster last season and blessed with a winnable game this season.

It seems to have balanced itself out to me. While I agree it can be a monumental pain in the ass, I don't see a much better way to do it.

I also think it may be advantageous to set up a structure similar to pro ball.

We have 32 teams in the league, 16 in the conference. Why not split the conference up into 3 four team divisions and employ a rotational shedule. You play all your division foes and play one conference division in whole and one division from the other conference in whole. this way, everyone plays the same strength of schedule and no team should have a clear cut advantage when it comes to position in the playoffs.

Originally posted by BuddyHorn
I also think it may be advantageous to set up a structure similar to pro ball.

We have 32 teams in the league, 16 in the conference. Why not split the conference up into 3 four team divisions and employ a rotational shedule. You play all your division foes and play one conference division in whole and one division from the other conference in whole. this way, everyone plays the same strength of schedule and no team should have a clear cut advantage when it comes to position in the playoffs.

Only problem is that the NFL schedule would not work with 4 wild card teams... those OOC games would become too important.

Originally posted by lawdawg95
We got hosed with a monster last season and blessed with a winnable game this season.

It seems to have balanced itself out to me. While I agree it can be a monumental pain in the ass, I don't see a much better way to do it.


It doesnt balance out, last season was an entire different entitie, no way related to this season. You deserve an equal path each year to be competitive with other teams in similar spots.

If sphere and orangebloods had identicle records at this point, with the games each team recieved who has the unfair advantage in schedule? Sphere plays a team It could easily beat by 80 plus points.

Originally posted by jedaviso
Originally posted by BuddyHorn

I also think it may be advantageous to set up a structure similar to pro ball.

We have 32 teams in the league, 16 in the conference. Why not split the conference up into 3 four team divisions and employ a rotational shedule. You play all your division foes and play one conference division in whole and one division from the other conference in whole. this way, everyone plays the same strength of schedule and no team should have a clear cut advantage when it comes to position in the playoffs.

Only problem is that the NFL schedule would not work with 4 wild card teams... those OOC games would become too important.



Why is that an issue?
You take top two from each division and then the two teams with best record. wouldnt be an issue at all.

At the very least, you'd think they'd at least start by having you play the OOC from the team that finished the same position in the standings as you the previous season.

Better yet, as mentioned, don't decide the week 16 game until after week 15 is played and have the OOC game be played vs. the team in the exact same spot in the other conference's standings. #1 East vs. #1 West, etc.

The game would still count, but at least the top seeds aren't getting cupcake games (which can actually do more damage due to exhaustion) and the teams that are fighting for their playoff lives don't get hosed due to semi-random scheduling.

Originally posted by jedaviso
At the very least, you'd think they'd at least start by having you play the OOC from the team that finished the same position in the standings as you the previous season.

Better yet, as mentioned, don't decide the week 16 game until after week 15 is played and have the OOC game be played vs. the team in the exact same spot in the other conference's standings. #1 East vs. #1 West, etc.

The game would still count, but at least the top seeds aren't getting cupcake games (which can actually do more damage due to exhaustion) and the teams that are fighting for their playoff lives don't get hosed due to semi-random scheduling.


How about having the 16th game of the schedule not determined until AFTER the 15th game of the season. Then you take the rankings of all the teams, and play them out like so. 1 seed form Western would play 1 seed from Eastern?

Or would that feel too much like screwing the losers over and possibly dropping them a seed? Maybe structure it like the playoffs, seed 1-8, the 1st seed plays the 8th seed in the other conference, etc... Then the remaining seeds, 9-16, play their respective seed from the other conference.

I like the discussion so far, I think there are unlimited ways to do this that are better than the system already in place.

Originally posted by BuddyHorn
I like the discussion so far, I think there are unlimited ways to do this that are better than the system already in place.

I like the NFL system it is a proven winner.

Originally posted by cbo0485
Originally posted by jedaviso

At the very least, you'd think they'd at least start by having you play the OOC from the team that finished the same position in the standings as you the previous season.

Better yet, as mentioned, don't decide the week 16 game until after week 15 is played and have the OOC game be played vs. the team in the exact same spot in the other conference's standings. #1 East vs. #1 West, etc.

The game would still count, but at least the top seeds aren't getting cupcake games (which can actually do more damage due to exhaustion) and the teams that are fighting for their playoff lives don't get hosed due to semi-random scheduling.


How about having the 16th game of the schedule not determined until AFTER the 15th game of the season. Then you take the rankings of all the teams, and play them out like so. 1 seed form Western would play 1 seed from Eastern?

Or would that feel too much like screwing the losers over and possibly dropping them a seed? Maybe structure it like the playoffs, seed 1-8, the 1st seed plays the 8th seed in the other conference, etc... Then the remaining seeds, 9-16, play their respective seed from the other conference.




Great idea

Originally posted by jedaviso
Better yet, as mentioned, don't decide the week 16 game until after week 15 is played and have the OOC game be played vs. the team in the exact same spot in the other conference's standings. #1 East vs. #1 West, etc.

The game would still count, but at least the top seeds aren't getting cupcake games (which can actually do more damage due to exhaustion) and the teams that are fighting for their playoff lives don't get hosed due to semi-random scheduling.


I agree with this. The only fair way to balance out the OOC is to have both teams be of equal record/standing in their respective conferences. That's the only way to make sure each game is getting a fair shot and won't be an advantage/penalty for anyone. The game would still count so you would have to scout and game plan as usual.

Fortunately for us this game doesn't really hurt us much either way considering we're out of the running for a home playoff game. The Grizzlies are a formidable enough opponent to make this one fairly even.

Originally posted by TheKingOfVa
Originally posted by cbo0485

Originally posted by jedaviso


At the very least, you'd think they'd at least start by having you play the OOC from the team that finished the same position in the standings as you the previous season.

Better yet, as mentioned, don't decide the week 16 game until after week 15 is played and have the OOC game be played vs. the team in the exact same spot in the other conference's standings. #1 East vs. #1 West, etc.

The game would still count, but at least the top seeds aren't getting cupcake games (which can actually do more damage due to exhaustion) and the teams that are fighting for their playoff lives don't get hosed due to semi-random scheduling.


How about having the 16th game of the schedule not determined until AFTER the 15th game of the season. Then you take the rankings of all the teams, and play them out like so. 1 seed form Western would play 1 seed from Eastern?

Or would that feel too much like screwing the losers over and possibly dropping them a seed? Maybe structure it like the playoffs, seed 1-8, the 1st seed plays the 8th seed in the other conference, etc... Then the remaining seeds, 9-16, play their respective seed from the other conference.




Great idea I think my second idea is better suited. No need to "punish" the number 1 seeds by making them play the top competitor from the other league. Reward them with what should be an easier game against the number 8 seed of the other conference.

Originally posted by cbo0485
Originally posted by TheKingOfVa

Originally posted by cbo0485


Originally posted by jedaviso



At the very least, you'd think they'd at least start by having you play the OOC from the team that finished the same position in the standings as you the previous season.

Better yet, as mentioned, don't decide the week 16 game until after week 15 is played and have the OOC game be played vs. the team in the exact same spot in the other conference's standings. #1 East vs. #1 West, etc.

The game would still count, but at least the top seeds aren't getting cupcake games (which can actually do more damage due to exhaustion) and the teams that are fighting for their playoff lives don't get hosed due to semi-random scheduling.


How about having the 16th game of the schedule not determined until AFTER the 15th game of the season. Then you take the rankings of all the teams, and play them out like so. 1 seed form Western would play 1 seed from Eastern?

Or would that feel too much like screwing the losers over and possibly dropping them a seed? Maybe structure it like the playoffs, seed 1-8, the 1st seed plays the 8th seed in the other conference, etc... Then the remaining seeds, 9-16, play their respective seed from the other conference.




Great idea I think my second idea is better suited. No need to "punish" the number 1 seeds by making them play the top competitor from the other league. Reward them with what should be an easier game against the number 8 seed of the other conference.



There is no reason to have the 1 seeds play each other, 2 seeds, 3 seeds, etc.

Ideally this is what you are going to see in the playoffs anyway, and taking it a step further is pretty much happens with the scrimmage games. I think the idea of putting the 1 seed against the 8 is much better, and I would probably take it a step further by giving them what is basically a bye week against the other conferences #16. Have the 2 play the 15, the 3 play the 14, 6 play the 11, 7 play the 10 and I think you get the point.

That way it is less likely these games would cost a home playoff game, playoff spot, etc.

The only problem with #1 East vs. #8 West in Week 16, is .... who does #9 West play ? What if #9 overtakes #8 in the last week because #9 plays a easier team while #8 gets beat by the #1 team in the other conf ?

Agree with CWD40 that you'd have to do :
1E vs. 16W... 8E vs. 9W, 9E vs. 8W... 16E vs. 1W. etc.

Of course, the bigger issue with the on-the-fly scheduling is that someone might have less home games as a result. Imagine if 8E and 9W both only had 7 home games... and imagine if 1E & 16W already both had 8 home games. That means one team in the league could potentially have 7 home games and another team could potentially have 9 home games, as you obviously don't know how things will end up when you schedule the first 15 games.

So you obviously cannot just eliminate the 16th game either.