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I have read that there is a lot of talk about throwing games in the playoffs so teams don't get promoted! I think that is absurd and defeats the purpose of why we are all here. But at the same time it might be the best option for an owner and his team. It turns out every Can A league is thinking of doing the same thing. No one wants to be promoted into a league that they will get killed in.

Every league has promotions/demotions which helps keep everything competitive. But every other league has had a full season to mature players, build bankroll, build up their stadium, build team chemistry all without a level cap. The teams that win the conference championships in a lower level aren't suppose to dominate in the next level, but they aren't suppose to get beat by 100 pts each game either.

There is a push to try and get the Admins to allow us a full season before we promote, not sure how likely this will be, but it is worth a shot.

Here is a link to a thread in the main suggestion forum:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=553018&page=2

Here is a link to a thread in the Canada A main Forum:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=527534&page=1#


Who ever end up being promoted to the Can AA is going to have to make one of two choices:
1) Cut the guys who got him there and say thanks but you are not good enough for me now and I don't need you anymore (which sucks balls!)
2) Stick with the guys who got him there and take a beating by a 15 teams full of level +20 players and be demoted after one season.

We are the trial run of mid-season team additions, lets let them no that it is unfair to promote any of us right now.

Lets make sure our voices are heard!

I thought that the petition worked and we didn't have to get promoted.

That is gay if we do.

The other A league with a Cap???

Western Europe A #2: 11.1242
Western Europe A #4: 11.206
Western Europe A #1: 11.2187
Western Europe A #6: 11.3107
Western Europe A #7: 11.3199
Western Europe A #8: 11.3205
Western Europe A #3: 11.566
Western Europe A #5: 11.6636


Canada A??

Canadian A #7: 7.5619
Canadian A #5: 7.7989
Canadian A #6: 8.1595
Canadian A #3: 8.2808
Canadian A #2: 8.4679
Canadian A #4: 8.5615
Canadian A #8: 8.7427
Canadian A #1: 8.7904

All only above D-Leagues.


Lowest Canada AA?
Canadian AA #4: 15.5904

Highest??
Canadian AA #2: 16.0056


Hmm average lvl in Canda A is about 8 vs average lvl in Canda AA is about 16.

this is all BS

PROMOTE US!

All that says is that the league averages level 8 per team doesn't mean that those being promoted are going to be level 8 only and also doesn't mean that all the teams in AA are going to be that high. Putting down a bunch of league averages without looking at individual teams means nothing.

Originally posted by crag79
All that says is that the league averages level 8 per team doesn't mean that those being promoted are going to be level 8 only and also doesn't mean that all the teams in AA are going to be that high. Putting down a bunch of league averages without looking at individual teams means nothing.

I have looked at Canada AA#1...the 13th place team is pretty much lv17-18 across the board starters. That's about 4-5 levels higher than the average "good team" in Canada A#1. Sure we have teams with some lv15-16 starters, but even those teams have a handful of lv10 & 11 guys. The AA teams that are bad have 17+ and a scattering of 20+ guys.

I am so sick of this whole conversation. IMO it is a simple decision, try and win at every level. Tell me about a coach or GM in any level of football who has not spend a season or two getting there asses kicked. If you are looking to get better as a GLB player or manager you need to try and get promoted. I agree it will be a rough season in AA but try and look at the good of it. You should be able to gain experience in gameplanning and learn how to effectivly shut down a more powerful opponent. I really don't see the enjoyment in winning the championship here and then staying, to whip everyones ass again.

Life is full of challenges and some grab hold and get after it and others whine and complain and go out the back door. Just choose and carry on!

Originally posted by beanerz
I am so sick of this whole conversation. IMO it is a simple decision, try and win at every level. Tell me about a coach or GM in any level of football who has not spend a season or two getting there asses kicked. If you are looking to get better as a GLB player or manager you need to try and get promoted. I agree it will be a rough season in AA but try and look at the good of it. You should be able to gain experience in gameplanning and learn how to effectivly shut down a more powerful opponent. I really don't see the enjoyment in winning the championship here and then staying, to whip everyones ass again.

Life is full of challenges and some grab hold and get after it and others whine and complain and go out the back door. Just choose and carry on!

Yup. No need to bother trying to enjoy the game, by winning a couple of games, and maybe not getting blown-out by triple-digits each week.

It's more than just getting your ass handed to you for a couple of seasons. If you are a team that gets consistently beat-down, recruiting isn't quite the same as when you are a playoff team.

Have you ever read any of the "Players looking for teams" threads? Most players want to go to a competetive team. If you lose most of your games by more than fifty points, players lose interest fast.

If your team struggles that bad, the players that are on your team tend to lose interest in the game.

Fact is... It's a game. And the people playing the game like to, at least, be competetive. Know why? Because games are supposed to be fun. And two seasons of humiliation just isn't most peoples idea of fun.

I own a team in Canada AAA and we started right there, with the rest of the league already off to a seasons worth of building on us. This season, while going 3-11, we got to see teams that were promoted from the AA ranks, and most of them are headed back down at the end of the season.

But, you also have 'gutted' teams. And since they are generally even worse-off than the promoted AA teams, some of the promoted teams will get to enjoy at lease one more season of disgrace. Then, once the players abandon them, and they are unable to recruit anyone, many of them will just close shop.

It's great that you think your team is up to the challenges. And it would also be great if all teams were up to them too. But because you are ready for it, doesn't mean that everyone else is just whiners.

Common sense dictates that if you want to be able to A.) keep the players you have and B.) be able to recruit more players to improve your team with, then it is best to be in a league that you can compete in.

Not every logical thought is whining.

Originally posted by beanerz
I am so sick of this whole conversation. IMO it is a simple decision, try and win at every level. Tell me about a coach or GM in any level of football who has not spend a season or two getting there asses kicked. If you are looking to get better as a GLB player or manager you need to try and get promoted. I agree it will be a rough season in AA but try and look at the good of it. You should be able to gain experience in gameplanning and learn how to effectivly shut down a more powerful opponent. I really don't see the enjoyment in winning the championship here and then staying, to whip everyones ass again.

Life is full of challenges and some grab hold and get after it and others whine and complain and go out the back door. Just choose and carry on!



Fact is, this is just a game. I don't care what coach you ask at any level. Some of these players on GLB are kids, you won't find many people willing to stick around for 2 seasons of getting blown out. Those players who stick together through losing seasons are usually the dedicated or the guys who start a message board team from a NFL fan site that wanna stick together.

In reality alot of players have the "win now" attitude, Fa's wanna sign with winning teams. for me, even if I had 2 losing seasons, the reward of being able to hold a team down for long and be able to compete for a ring would be so much more rewarding.

ya I think promotion is a good thing!!!! the good teams like the montreal knights and the polarbears can easily beat some of the teams in the upper leauges....

Agree with some of what has been said in the above couple of posts but in my personal experience here you are false in acouple of things. I GM a team that 2 seasons ago was 1-15 which is when I was brought onboard to help. With a proffesional approach we had no problem recruiting lvl. 18+ players, and had zero turnover, yes I mean zero not one player requested out of a 1-15 team. It is all about how you handle the constaint losing, and what else you have to offer.

And lastly I would definetly consider it whinning, it is the same guys complaining about the same thing for a few weeks now. Take a look at any of the multiple posts that are about this topic, its the same posts over and over and over. Just getting rather old. Support knows about peoples concern and may or may not change it, lets move on.

Originally posted by beanerz
Agree with some of what has been said in the above couple of posts but in my personal experience here you are false in acouple of things. I GM a team that 2 seasons ago was 1-15 which is when I was brought onboard to help. With a proffesional approach we had no problem recruiting lvl. 18+ players, and had zero turnover, yes I mean zero not one player requested out of a 1-15 team. It is all about how you handle the constaint losing, and what else you have to offer.

And lastly I would definetly consider it whinning, it is the same guys complaining about the same thing for a few weeks now. Take a look at any of the multiple posts that are about this topic, its the same posts over and over and over. Just getting rather old. Support knows about peoples concern and may or may not change it, lets move on.



Support knows? You'd think so, but I think you won't see many people move on until support actually says something...anything!

Originally posted by Nicodareus
The other A league with a Cap???

Western Europe A #2: 11.1242
Western Europe A #4: 11.206
Western Europe A #1: 11.2187
Western Europe A #6: 11.3107
Western Europe A #7: 11.3199
Western Europe A #8: 11.3205
Western Europe A #3: 11.566
Western Europe A #5: 11.6636


Canada A??

Canadian A #7: 7.5619
Canadian A #5: 7.7989
Canadian A #6: 8.1595
Canadian A #3: 8.2808
Canadian A #2: 8.4679
Canadian A #4: 8.5615
Canadian A #8: 8.7427
Canadian A #1: 8.7904

All only above D-Leagues.


Lowest Canada AA?
Canadian AA #4: 15.5904

Highest??
Canadian AA #2: 16.0056


Hmm average lvl in Canda A is about 8 vs average lvl in Canda AA is about 16.

They would be higher than us they had 8 more games

Originally posted by beanerz
Agree with some of what has been said in the above couple of posts but in my personal experience here you are false in acouple of things. I GM a team that 2 seasons ago was 1-15 which is when I was brought onboard to help. With a proffesional approach we had no problem recruiting lvl. 18+ players, and had zero turnover, yes I mean zero not one player requested out of a 1-15 team. It is all about how you handle the constaint losing, and what else you have to offer.

And lastly I would definetly consider it whinning, it is the same guys complaining about the same thing for a few weeks now. Take a look at any of the multiple posts that are about this topic, its the same posts over and over and over. Just getting rather old. Support knows about peoples concern and may or may not change it, lets move on.



How about if you move on? Does someone here, at GLB, force your computer onto this thread until you have read everything and responded?

And by your logic, of repeated posts with the same complaint being whining, does your second post complaining about the whole discussion count as whining too? Or is that just for everyone else?

I know a guy who bought a lottery ticket, and won $100,000. But that doesn't change the fact that that is a rarity. Just like it is a rarity to convince top FAs to join what looks like a loser.

When you have that team, the odds are stacked against you. Yes, it is possible to get FAs and turn it around, but it requires more work. This is a game for most of us, and not a job.